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I agree with the Vega part... but what's so bad about Cortez being blond? There aren't many blondes in the ME universe so it would be a nice change.


Blond hair (to me anyway) looks like s*** in the ME engine.

That and I don't overly dig blond pixel men in ME. (amended. I like them just fine in other games).

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#15027
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"Since there's just one s/s LI in the game, we made them exclusively gay."
I can see that.


...Sad thing is I can see that too. D: 

TBH I wouldn't mind if it was a squaddie (Vega or Prothy to be clear) but a minor character? Come on now!

And yes my Shep would bone Prothy. I say this with zero shame.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:16 .


#15028
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Collider wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
Nope. The latest script does include Cortez in Tali's line of questioning.

Thanks for finding that.

As for Kaidan, I may be mistaken, it's hard to tell sometimes. But either way, since you found Tali acknowleding M/M with Cortez, I would say this thing pretty much means that there's probably nothing
more to be looked for in terms of M/M with Kaidan/Vega in these files.
Either they added M/M to those characters in an update, or it's not in
the game period.

I wouldn't put it past Bioware to just put one M/M love interest in ME3.


This is my feeling also. 

Cortez seems to be indirectly acknowledged as an m/m LI through other characters' lines, but we haven't seen anything of the sort for Vega or Kaidan. 

It doesn't mean they aren't (because the script is really ambiguous) and it doesn't mean they won't be, but I'm beginning to think Cortez is the only m/m option, and Sam the exclusive f/f option, in ME3. 

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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

FFWarQueen wrote...

I agree with the Vega part... but what's so bad about Cortez being blond? There aren't many blondes in the ME universe so it would be a nice change.


Mass Effect's engine can't render blond hair well.  Like, at all.

Also, Vega's romance hasn't been written in the files.  It could be Jacob levels of bad, we don't know yet.


In the new screenshot with Bailey the hair looks vastly better than it did in the ME and ME2. NO NO please don't make anymore romances like Jacob'sPosted Image(... the prize)

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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
"Since there's just one s/s LI in the game, we made them exclusively gay."
I can see that.


...Sad thing is I can see that too. D: 

TBH I wouldn't mind if it was a squaddie but a minor character? Come on now!


Definitely. I would prefer my Shepard to romance someone who fights side by side with him, every step of the way. Also, finally confessing love to each other after all that time? Would've made a powerful romance arc in my opinion. Sigh, Cortez better be a damn awesome character.

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Collider wrote...

I wouldn't put it past Bioware to just put one M/M love interest in ME3.

Technically possible, but unlikely IMO. I still believe there will be at least 2, no matter Vega, Kaidan or someone completly else.

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SolidBeast wrote...
Definitely. I would prefer my Shepard to romance someone who fights side by side with him, every step of the way. Also, finally confessing love to each other after all that time? Would've made a powerful romance arc in my opinion. Sigh, Cortez better be a damn awesome character.



All what time? Shep just met Vega/Prothy. :whistle:

But hopefully Cortez will be awesome. Still no Vega makes me a sad puppy. :(

#15033
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Ryzaki wrote...

Which for some reason is completely absent in the biggest (and presumbly latest) version of the script. It's in the test file.

And it's Ashley/Liara/no one

It completely ignores the possiblity of Shep being with Cortez.

Ryzaki wrote...

Nope. The latest script does include Cortez in Tali's line of questioning.

Wait, I'm lost. So are they any "Tali mentions other LI" lines in the big file or not?

#15034
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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Definitely. I would prefer my Shepard to romance someone who fights side by side with him, every step of the way. Also, finally confessing love to each other after all that time? Would've made a powerful romance arc in my opinion. Sigh, Cortez better be a damn awesome character.



All what time? Shep just met Vega/Prothy. :whistle:

But hopefully Cortez will be awesome. Still no Vega makes me a sad puppy. :(


Well, I edited my previous post to say I'm currently doing a playthrough with a mShep in love with Kaidan, so...
But I'm all for Vega as well. On the other hand... Prothy? Really?
I can already see that one growing on me as well  No. 

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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

FFWarQueen wrote...

I agree with the Vega part... but what's so bad about Cortez being blond? There aren't many blondes in the ME universe so it would be a nice change.


Mass Effect's engine can't render blond hair well.  Like, at all.

Also, Vega's romance hasn't been written in the files.  It could be Jacob levels of bad, we don't know yet.

It's not written, but he's pretty much well established even then as a lover of women.
Then there's the gender specific Kaidan romance lines.

So at this point it's pretty much wait and see. When the demo rolls out, maybe those files can offer more information (provided that they didn't clean the demo files up to make up for the leak) like the DA2 demo files did (the DA2 files revealed romance information including that everyone was bisexual).

IsaacShep wrote...

Collider wrote...

I wouldn't put it past Bioware to just put one
M/M love interest in ME3.

Technically possible, but unlikely
IMO. I still believe there will be at least 2, no matter Vega, Kaidan or
someone completly else.

I lack that much faith in Bioware. I could see them throwing the LGBT people a bone with Steve and Samantha and leaving it at that.

In the new screenshot with Bailey the hair looks vastly better than it
did in the ME and ME2. NO NO please don't make anymore romances like
Jacob's../../../images/forum/emoticons/sick.png(... the prize)

Character Creator hair (and Bailey & Steve both look like they were made in that kind of generator) seems to look just as bad as it did in ME1 and ME2.

Modifié par Collider, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:24 .


#15036
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Well, I edited my previous post to say I'm currently doing a playthrough with a mShep in love with Kaidan, so...
But I'm all for Vega as well. On the other hand... Prothy? Really?
I can already see that one growing on me as well  No. 


YES YES YES

Let the Prothy love flow through you. <3:devil:

Plus his personality is type hot. :wub:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:28 .


#15037
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Collider wrote...

It's not written, but he's pretty much well established even then as a lover of women.


I noticed that too.  Bioware really drives it home that Vega is girl-crazy, way more so than Kaidan or Jacob.

Modifié par Red by Full Metal Jacket, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:27 .


#15038
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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Well, I edited my previous post to say I'm currently doing a playthrough with a mShep in love with Kaidan, so...
But I'm all for Vega as well. On the other hand... Prothy? Really?
I can already see that one growing on me as well  No. 


Yes yes YES YES YES

Let the Prothy love flow through you. <3:devil:


Must...resist.... ah, who am I kidding, I already made a concept piece for him. :wub:

#15039
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Wait, I'm lost. So are they any "Tali mentions other LI" lines in the big file or not?

She mentions male Shepard being with Cortez in the big (and presumably latest) file, along with Ashley & Liara.
Which shows that male Shepard can start a new romance with Ashley but no indication that he can do so with Kaidan.

#15040
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SolidBeast wrote...
Must...resist.... ah, who am I kidding, I already made a concept piece for him. :wub:


<3

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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Must...resist.... ah, who am I kidding, I already made a concept piece for him. :wub:


<3

Share? 


Here: http://fc01.devianta...nna-d4mjk55.png

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IsaacShep wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Which for some reason is completely absent in the biggest (and presumbly latest) version of the script. It's in the test file.

And it's Ashley/Liara/no one

It completely ignores the possiblity of Shep being with Cortez.

Ryzaki wrote...

Nope. The latest script does include Cortez in Tali's line of questioning.

Wait, I'm lost. So are they any "Tali mentions other LI" lines in the big file or not?


The test file excludes Cortez.

The latest one includes him.

Sorry about the confusion.

@Solid: Creepy yet...hot. <3

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:32 .


#15043
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SolidBeast wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Must...resist.... ah, who am I kidding, I already made a concept piece for him. :wub:


<3

Share? 


Here: http://fc01.devianta...nna-d4mjk55.png


OHH I like!
He looks mysterious and sinister in this.

#15044
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FFWarQueen wrote...
OHH I like!
He looks mysterious and sinister in this.


Thanks.

Ryzaki wrote...
@Solid: Creepy yet...hot. <3


Just the way I like 'em.

As for the Cortez line not being there, then being added to the bigger script, perhaps the same thing is happening with Kaidan's part. Unlikely, all things considered, but not impossible.

#15045
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Just the way I like 'em.

As for the Cortez line not being there, then being added to the bigger script, perhaps the same thing is happening with Kaidan's Vega's part. Unlikely, all things considered, but not impossible.


Fix'd. :whistle:

And a bit more likely since Vega's romance is woefully undeveloped in the leaked script.

Seriously though I *like* Cortez but getting just him is...*sighs*

I got all hopeful for Vega too. Damn it. I knew better than to be optimistic! :pinched:

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:39 .


#15046
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It doesn't mean they aren't (because the script is really ambiguous) and it doesn't mean they won't be, but I'm beginning to think Cortez is the only m/m option, and Sam the exclusive f/f option, in ME3.

At this point I'm starting to feel the same.
Gender specific Kaidan lines, Vega comparing female Shepard to hot women..in the files things seem pretty planned towards heterosexuality. So it would seem that they would have to change course - and why would they?

By that time they should have already known of the amount of people who wanted Kaidan for example to be M/M (and yet it's not in the files) - and seems too late for them to have noticed all of the people who wanted Vega M/M.

They can just go - "well, Steve's M/M exclusive and "the" gay choice - no one's upset about sexuality retcons or their bro (Garrus, Kaidan, Vega) hitting on their male Shepard - job's done."

#15047
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Ryzaki wrote...

Just the way I like 'em.

As for the Cortez line not being there, then being added to the bigger script, perhaps the same thing is happening with Kaidan's Vega's part. Unlikely, all things considered, but not impossible.


Fix'd. :whistle:

And a bit more likely since Vega's romance is woefully undeveloped in the leaked script.

Seriously though I *like* Cortez but getting just him is...*sighs*

I got all hopeful for Vega too. Damn it. I knew better than to be optimistic! :pinched:


I'm still optimistic, I'm not giving up until it is confirmed to me.*in denial*

#15048
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Ryzaki wrote...

Just the way I like 'em.

As for the Cortez line not being there, then being added to the bigger script, perhaps the same thing is happening with Kaidan's Vega's part. Unlikely, all things considered, but not impossible.


Fix'd. :whistle:

And a bit more likely since Vega's romance is woefully undeveloped in the leaked script.

Seriously though I *like* Cortez but getting just him is...*sighs*

I got all hopeful for Vega too. Damn it. I knew better than to be optimistic! :pinched:


I keep forgetting Vega. And I have him in my signature. Facepalm smiley. This forum needs one.

I like Cortez, too, but next to Kaidan and Vega, he's just not that appealing.

#15049
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SolidBeast wrote...

As for the Cortez line not being there, then being added to the bigger script, perhaps the same thing is happening with Kaidan's part. Unlikely, all things considered, but not impossible.

I think it's more than likely. Especially considering "But I guess you're not alone anymore. You've got Ashley" and "But I guess you're not alone anymore. You've got Liara" lines are right after each other, they go in pair, while the Cortez variation is in a completly different part of the script, put among totally unrelated lines. This, along with the lack of Cortez line in test file, proves m/m romances were late addition in the developement, they probably haven't done anything on them yet when they initially announced it.

We'll see how it will go. Not gonna lie, if non-squadmate turns out to be the only m/m LI, then they really went "fine! have your m/m romancs but only 1 and of course not with a squadmate" route... Will still be happy there's gonna be even one and Cortez seems like a great character, but I will be disappointed at the same time that they're still treating m/m players as second-class.

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Collider wrote...
By that time they should have already known of the amount of people who wanted Kaidan for example to be M/M (and yet it's not in the files) - and seems too late for them to have noticed all of the people who wanted Vega M/M.


Honestly, not a lot of people outside this thread are clamoring for Vega and the like to be m/m...Almost every post on Vega/Kaidan on tumlblr is "I can't wait for my FemShep to romance him".  I don't think the demand is great enough.

Modifié par Red by Full Metal Jacket, 27 janvier 2012 - 12:50 .