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I expect him to look like he was made in the Character Creator (like every crew member did in ME2).

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Yeah, by Feb 14 we will know how he looks since Sur'Kesh will be in the demo


I think we might still just get a side view of him.  The real demo is probably the same as the leaked one, with cleaned up graphics.

We might get a good look at him when the art book releases in February.  Here's to hoping.

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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, by Feb 14 we will know how he looks since Sur'Kesh will be in the demo


I think we might still just get a side view of him.

There was another angle that gave a better view of his face, but it was hard to make out due to a lighting bug.
One that shouldn't exist in the final demo.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 27 janvier 2012 - 08:39 .


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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Yeah, by Feb 14 we will know how he looks since Sur'Kesh will be in the demo


I think we might still just get a side view of him.  The real demo is probably the same as the leaked one, with cleaned up graphics.

We might get a good look at him when the art book releases in February.  Here's to hoping.


He has a full face shot in the leaked beta. It's just the lighting was jacked up so all you see is darkness and his hair has inexplicably turned an orangey blond. :lol:

Damn it Blacklash. :ph34r:'d

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 08:39 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

and his hair has inexplicably turned an orangey blond. :lol:

It just turned to its real color Posted Image Blond Cortez boy stays! Posted Image

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We'll see on the 14th. 

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Ryzaki wrote...

He has a full face shot in the leaked beta. It's just the lighting was jacked up so all you see is darkness and his hair has inexplicably turned an orangey blond. :lol:


Maybe that's the final design. :lol:

Modifié par SolidBeast, 27 janvier 2012 - 08:54 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

We'll see on the 14th. 

Or the 7th seeing as the demo may be realeased early for some under certain conditions.

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I may be very late on saying this since i only just saw that its allowed.

Its about time, im happy they made this available in ME3 since its something many fans wanted since ME1. And im also glad that even though i know alot of people got flack for trying to get this approved that you managed to do it, and you managed to do it for ME3. Congrats :D

And Congrats to Bioware for finally implenting it and sticking it to the people that made it an issue in the first place!

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I would say that the new fella Vegas is most properlly one of the Same Sex Romance Options for Shepeard, be intresting to see who else they include ^_^

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

We'll see on the 14th. 

Or the 7th seeing as the demo may be realeased early for some under certain conditions.

7th is when the news on how to get early access to MP will be released. The SP portion will be released on 14th, not earilier and MP on 17th or on 14th for those that get early access to MP.

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Marvelous Marvel wrote...

I would say that the new fella Vegas is most properlly one of the Same Sex Romance Options for Shepeard, be intresting to see who else they include ^_^


Actually, Vega is most likely straight, the only s/s male option we know of is Steve Cortez, the shuttle pilot.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

We'll see on the 14th. 

Or the 7th seeing as the demo may be realeased early for some under certain conditions.

7th is when the news on how to get early access to MP will be released. The SP portion will be released on 14th, not earilier and MP on 17th or on 14th for those that get early access to MP.

"Remember, the demo hits February 14th and we'll have information on all the ways you can unlock it early on Feb. 7th!" - From the Facebook page

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twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.

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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.


I think what would be more salt on the wounds if they add another S/S Romance Char as just a DLC char.

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I'd love for Prothy to be a s/s option.

And yeah this spoiler isn't from the leaked beta. EA goof'd this one a long time ago.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 27 janvier 2012 - 09:35 .


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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.


Much agreed. From what I saw, Freddie's bringing a passion and zest to the character, especially with the big goofy grin he was sporting in the recording session they filmed, and that makes me all the more interested in getting closer to Vega. I'm holding onto the hope that nothing official was made of Anders and Fenris being available to Male Hawkes until like days before release. Yes, I know, different teams for both games, but dammit, let me have my hope, huh?

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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.


Damn it Bioware give me my s/s Vega Posted Image I'll still romance him if he is o/s though, even though I would prefer the other way around. FPJ really did seem passionate about his role I am looking forward to interacting with James (in more ways than one) Posted Image

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Ryzaki wrote...

I'd love for Prothy to be a s/s option.

And yeah this spoiler isn't from the leaked beta. EA goof'd this one a long time ago.


I like the idea that Dean the Young had about having EDI placed into a MALE body.

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Chun Hei wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I'd love for Prothy to be a s/s option.

And yeah this spoiler isn't from the leaked beta. EA goof'd this one a long time ago.


I like the idea that Dean the Young had about having EDI placed into a MALE body.


That would be weird Posted Image and funny. EDI does have a female voice... well now we know EDI was a male trapt in a female AI the whole time lolPosted Image

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Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.


This is what happens when you make a videogame character that's looks like he's influenced by Mario Lopez, everyone wants him.:lol:

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android654 wrote...

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.


This is what happens when you make a videogame character that's looks like he's influenced by Mario Lopez, everyone wants him.:lol:




Mario Lopez? Nah I have never had a thing for him, there is just something about Vega though that draws me in. His voice? his body? his personality?... How about all of the above.

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FFWarQueen wrote...

android654 wrote...

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

twitter.com/#!/CabLivingstone/status/162991464597569536

"Just reviewing James #Vega scenes in #ME3....Freddie Prinze Jr sure brings him to life...makes me smile....and blush"

If Vega is straight...salt on wounds, Bioware. Salt on wounds.


This is what happens when you make a videogame character that's looks like he's influenced by Mario Lopez, everyone wants him.:lol:




Mario Lopez? Nah I have never had a thing for him, there is just something about Vega though that draws me in. His voice? his body? his personality?... How about all of the above.


Kind of reminds me of Mario Lopez. Big muslce bound spanish guy with a winning face.

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Luca Stern wrote...
Maybe we're not entitled to a romance, but neither is Bioware automatically entitled to praise.

 

Sure. Unconditional praise is never a good thing. 

If I would have known it was only a crew member, maybe I wouldn't have bothered. It's never happened before that a character outside the squad had as much interactions and was just as well developed as an actual squad member. Crew members don't fight alongside you, which also means they have much less opportunity to comment on what Shepard does. This time they might do it a lot better than Kelly in ME2, but that's still basically how it goes. It just looks like it wouldn't be equal to the other romances.

So I wouldn't mind so much if the single M/M option turned out to be a squad member. Only one option is fine as long as it's a good one. But having only one choice and for him to be a crew member seems like the worst of all possiblities. I'm still glad they're including us, but I won't praise Bioware just for that, not without seeing how they did it. I reserve my judgement until I know more.


Wouldn't the worst of all possibilities be no m/m option at all? 

Up until the game was delayed, s/s romances didn't seem to be planned at all for ME3. There were no new romances in the game, and Hudson talked about having the player choose an opposite-sex ME/ME2 LI in the new-game story generator. 

Cortez and Sam might be 'just a crew member', but they have banter, roles on the ship and about as many conversations with Shepard as any other member of the squad. They are, for all intents and purposes, squadmember-level characters on the Normandy. They might not fight with Shepard on the ground, but they have important roles on the ship that don't boil down to feeding fish or handling emails. They're involved in at least 2 quests, Cortez can take on a mission in battle with his shuttle and they're full choices when Shepard has the option to tell someone who her/his LI is. 

I'm not defending their inclusion just for the sake of it. By all means be disappointed, but things could be a lot worse. Things *are* a lot worse in 99% of other games, even RPGs that allow the creation of a player character. One option is better than none. and even though it's taken two years of farcical obfuscation, Bioware are doing something.  

Side-note: to people complaining about the inclusion of multiplayer rather than s/s romances, I'd urge some perspective. 

One feature has millions of potential fans, offers significant scope for future DLC content and revenue streams, has been promoted as one of the defining new features of the game, has anecdotally significantly increased interest in the game outside of Bioware's devoted fanbase, and may be a reason why preorders for ME3 are currently four times as high as they were for its predecessor at the same tme before launch. 

The other feature is niche content that, while important to the game and its fans, has never been its focus. 50% of players never even use romances. Its announcement sparked heated debate, forum flame wars, threats of boycotts from wingnuts and a legion of people calling ME3 a "same-sex dating sim". Its content is not a drawcard to the vast majority of their target market, or their traditional market, offers no ongoing revenue streams and was only included because Bioware had some extra time up their sleeves. 

Different priorities. Justifiably. I'm under no false impressions, and I don't think anyone should be: complaining about the 'wasting of resources' on multiplayer instead of designing more s/s romances is, with respect, naive. 

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I am not complaining about multiplayer instead of more romance options. I complain that Bioware could not find a way to combine them.

:innocent:

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Wouldn't the worst of all possibilities be no m/m option at all? 


Compared to at least three options, that are just as well developed as Steve plus possibly some minor flings as well for LesShep, it's a marginal improvement at best and certainly doesn't afford us much choice.