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[Siansonea]

Everything is subjective. I am most on the fence about Jack and Tali as s/s options, just because so much is open to interpretion, and people on both sides interpret the exact same lines to have completely opposite meanings. For me personally, I don't get Tali's suit-linking dialog to be particularly romantic-sexual in nature, just embarassing for her. The "girl's club" line is problematic, because I initially took it to mean that Jack interpreted Shepard's interest as platonic/friendly, and that wasn't what Jack wanted. She'd been burned by Marana, whom she thought to be her BFF, and that wasn't going to happen again. With ManShep it's a different dynamic, and he's obviously into her, so she can deal with that, thinking it's just a physical thing that doesn't pose a threat of true emotional intimacy. That's the thing that scares Jack the most—caring about another person, and having someone care about her. She even says as much, I believe. I thought Jack's lines were based on what she perceived to be Shepard's motives, not her own sexuality. But other people interpret the line to mean "been there, done that, don't need to do it again", and I can see how they could think that as well. Like I said, subjective.

With Ashley, it's a bit of a character issue for me, because Ash is very forthright, open and assertive, and I can't imagine a circumstance where Ash wouldn't let her feelings be known. I think if Ash was a s/s LI in ME3, it would have to be something that hadn't occurred to her previously at all, that she simply hadn't thought about. If Ash came out with a "I've loved you so long" line, I'd eyeroll, that's for sure.

To me, the most wide-open option is Miranda, because she's so mysterious and secretive. And we've only seen Miranda as a Cerberus agent, not Miranda as a true dedicated follower of Shepard. Her personality could change completely once she's her own woman again. Heck, she might even tell MaleShep to GTFO, that she was only trying to secure his loyalty to Cerberus. Of course, I also wouldn't be surprised if Miranda turns out to be the "evil Bond girl" that Shepard has to fight in ME3, so where Miranda's concerned, there are nothing but question marks.

[Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger]

with ashley, iargue its most likely going to e the, yes i know it's totally clichee, best friends grow onto something more over time, most logical explanation from my pov,
it could also be that after the whole sep thought dead thing, then "oh sh*t you're with cerberus!", her secret feelings only surface in ME 3, after the trial perhaps...

totally agree with you on the miranda=mystery theory, was extremely down when i realised halfway through the game that my dreams for femshep still hadn't come true, but could also be that for a f/f romance miri takes her time...

[78stonewobble]

Well I voted new bi (though they could have been gay/lesbian) and no changes to older characters.

Mostly because I find all bi silly and that noone will be able to agree on this and that character should change.

Just my oppinion offcourse.

[Vertigo_1]

Siansonea II wrote...
Heck, she might even tell MaleShep to GTFO, that she was only trying to secure his loyalty to Cerberus.

This seems highly unlikely.

Modifié par Vertigo_1, 17 juin 2011 - 10:37 .

[Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger]

voted new an old bi, makes sense to get some new ones, but i want ash and miri,
subjective opinion i know..

[AngelicMachinery]

Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger wrote...

voted new an old bi, makes sense to get some new ones, but i want ash and miri,
subjective opinion i know..

It is a tad agitating that people accept female homosexuality over male...

[78stonewobble]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger wrote...

voted new an old bi, makes sense to get some new ones, but i want ash and miri,
subjective opinion i know..

It is a tad agitating that people accept female homosexuality over male...

Supposedly it's sechsy to us guys...

[AngelicMachinery]

78stonewobble wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger wrote...

voted new an old bi, makes sense to get some new ones, but i want ash and miri,
subjective opinion i know..

It is a tad agitating that people accept female homosexuality over male...

Supposedly it's sechsy to us guys...

That doesn't particularly matter...  I despise the concept...

[Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger]

hey, if you read my earlier posts you would know i'm totally okay with male homosexuality, its just not for me that's all, anything wrong with picking 2 hotties as my favourite LIs ?
no,
as i stated earlier already: better to have the choice and not choose it, than to have the choice made for you

everybody deserves that

Modifié par Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger, 17 juin 2011 - 10:59 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger wrote...

hey, if you read my earlier posts you would know i'm totally okay with male homosexuality, its just not for me that's all, anything wrong with picking 2 hotties as my favourite LIs ?
no,
as i stated earlier already: better to have the choice and not choose it, than to have the choice made for you

everybody deserves that

I can't argue with this statement as it is your oppinion,  but, it is my oppinion that it is hyprocritcal at best.

[Jademoon121]

I'm sure the romances will be fine. You don't ever what to end a epic trilogy on a awkwardly, stereotypical romance filled with more cliches than bad fanfiction.

[Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger]

all i'm saying is that i myself am not that interested in an m/m romance, though over people might be so i support the inclusion of cet romance options into the game. all i'm expressing are my own favourite LI's for ME3 , so what is so hypocritical about that?

Modifié par Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger, 17 juin 2011 - 11:37 .

[Abispa]

My "solution" is to make a heart icon conversation tag for old party members, so it is up to the player whether or not he wants the older character to be a SS LI or not. While I welcome Kaidan as a gay LI, I don't think it would be "right" to suddenly have him become Anders or Zevran.

As for the new characters, I don't mind if s/he starts hitting on Shepard or "hinting" about his/her interest. Players can shoot them down if they wish. I'm curious to see how ME fans would react to a Zevran or Isabela style character, especially if s/he is a Krogan.

[AngelicMachinery]

Abispa wrote...
While I welcome Kaidan as a gay LI, I don't think it would be "right" to suddenly have him become Anders or Zevran.
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Yea,I can say that I have yet to meet a gay male who wants another Zevran.  For some reason he is a tad... despised.  I  him though.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Abispa wrote...
While I welcome Kaidan as a gay LI, I don't think it would be "right" to suddenly have him become Anders or Zevran.

I really don't think this needs to happen at all.  Since the s/s romances will be player-initiated (apparently), Kaidan (or any other male LI for that matter) would probably just react to Shepard's sudden interest.

[Velissia Fynold]

IsaacShep wrote...
They should take into consideration who makes the most sense and also who is the most demanded. With guys, it's easy - Kaidan, the original male LI, the most demanded for s/s option since day 1 and considered as the most likely (for whatever reasons) to be bi by both gay and straight players. Not to mention he already has an explanation why he didn't hit on ManShep in ME1.

Honestly, I especially would hate seeing Kaidan going BI. Don't get me wrong, I know many would like that and he is sexy and everything, am sure not only we woman think that.

But he doesn't even talk as open to a male char as he does to a female and somehow gave me (maybe no one else?) the feeling he is pretty straight on that (and I don't really know the explanation why he didn't hit on male shep in ME1, can't imagin one either, while he really easy hitted on fem shep, even if you only where friendly to him).

I personally would rather see Jacob BI, as he is "closed" to both and you need to get him to actually get closer to you (fem shep), turning him from a good and close bro to a BI romance option somehow makes more sense or sounds easier to accept (for me at least).

But I guess on who and why and why not, we could discuess forever and someone always has another opinion about a certain character.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh, before I forget, I think not every character should be turned BI and open for everyone; thats why I voted on both polls open for new characters and old not LI's.

Honestly from all LI's we had so far, only Jacob and Miranda seem to me like they could be BI, everyone else, it just doesn't feel right or fitting anything we know about them yet  (and as someone else noticed, Jack even says she doesn't swing that way, and I'm pretty sure that was ment as not interested in women, on next playthrough will pay attention how exactly the dialouge was that ended in that.)
 
Just my opinion, I totally respect if others have another view on that.

Modifié par Velissia Fynold, 17 juin 2011 - 11:54 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Velissia Fynold wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
They should take into consideration who makes the most sense and also who is the most demanded. With guys, it's easy - Kaidan, the original male LI, the most demanded for s/s option since day 1 and considered as the most likely (for whatever reasons) to be bi by both gay and straight players. Not to mention he already has an explanation why he didn't hit on ManShep in ME1.

Honestly, I especially would hate seeing Kaidan going BI. Don't get me wrong, I know many would like that and he is sexy and everything, am sure not only we woman think that.

But he doesn't even talk as open to a male char as he does to a female and somehow gave me (maybe no one else?) the feeling he is pretty straight on that (and I don't really know the explanation why he didn't hit on male shep in ME1, can't imagin one either, while he really easy hitted on fem shep, even if you only where friendly to him).

I personally would rather see Jacob BI, as he is "closed" to both and you need to get him to actually get closer to you (fem shep), turning him from a good and close bro to a BI romance option somehow makes more sense or sounds easier to accept (for me at least).

But I guess on who and why and why not, we could discuess forever and someone always has another opinion about a certain character.

Just my 2 cents.

Oh, before I forget, I think not every character should be turned BI and open for everyone; thats why I voted on both polls open for new characters and old not LI's.

Honestly from all LI's we had so far, only Jacob and Miranda seem to me like they could be BI, everyone else, it just doesn't feel right or fitting anything we know about them yet. Just my opinion, I totally respect if others have another view on that (and as someone else noticed, Jack even says she doesn't swing that way, and I'm pretty sure that was ment as not interested in women, on next playthrough will pay attention how exactly the dialouge was that ended in that.)

Making the prize the only gay male would cause a ****storm

[Abispa]

@ AngelicMachinery -- Hmm. Jacob had a relationship with Miranda before he joined Shepard's posse, so ME fans could always joke that Miranda turned him gay.

Makes me wonder just how he and Shepard are going to be spilling drinks on the Citadel. :innocent:

Modifié par Abispa, 17 juin 2011 - 11:56 .

[AngelicMachinery]

Abispa wrote...

@ AngelicMachinery -- Hmm. Jacob had a relationship with Miranda before he joined Shepard's posse, so ME fans could always joke that Miranda turned him gay.

Makes me wonder just how he and Shepard are going to be spilling drinks on the Citadel. :innocent:

True, but, for some reason poor Jacob is very, very low on peoples lists of characters.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Velissia Fynold wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...
They should take into consideration who makes the most sense and also who is the most demanded. With guys, it's easy - Kaidan, the original male LI, the most demanded for s/s option since day 1 and considered as the most likely (for whatever reasons) to be bi by both gay and straight players. Not to mention he already has an explanation why he didn't hit on ManShep in ME1.

Honestly, I especially would hate seeing Kaidan going BI. Don't get me wrong, I know many would like that and he is sexy and everything, am sure not only we woman think that.

But he doesn't even talk as open to a male char as he does to a female and somehow gave me (maybe no one else?) the feeling he is pretty straight on that (and I don't really know the explanation why he didn't hit on male shep in ME1, can't imagin one either, while he really easy hitted on fem shep, even if you only where friendly to him).

All the LIs are like that.  They won't talk to you nearly as much if you are not eligible, Jacob and Miranda included. 

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 17 juin 2011 - 11:58 .

[Abispa]

Just a thought. ME has yet to establish Councilman Anderson's sexual preference. Hmm.

[Velissia Fynold]

Got I hate being logged out every click, and loosing the text, ok trying again:

I'm not saying Jacob should be the only option, and while I know he isn't as liked as Kaidan (I didn't romanced him myself either), I would prefer at least 2 per like, but also at least 1 out of range.

I would find it unfitting, to simply turn everyone BI, so everyone can have everyone. That just isn't how the worlds works, and I'm sure the ME world doesn't either.

And I can't imagin everyone would be fine with everyone being BI, but maybe I'm wrong.

[Maugrim]

Abispa wrote...

Just a thought. ME has yet to establish Councilman Anderson's sexual preference. Hmm.

He's a Kahlee Sanders-sexual.  This was established in the books.

[Abispa]

I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, but I do have a guilty longing to see Wrex as a potential LI. I KNOW, I KNOW it would be silly and probably stretch credulity to the breaking point, but maybe Bioware could make is a special Easter Egg for those of us who need mental help so as not to be found by the casual gamer with delicate sensibilities.

Maybe, after the game is "over," Shepard could check his/her console and see an email from his/her old buddy, "I keep thinking of that night we spent together on Tachanka after Grunt won his initiation... I have this special outfit I bought on Omega..."

Only question is, can Wrex dance?

[AngelicMachinery]

Velissia Fynold wrote...


I would find it unfitting, to simply turn everyone BI, so everyone can have everyone. That just isn't how the worlds works, and I'm sure the ME world doesn't either.

Than truthfully,  there should be less hetero romances also.  You can score with almost anyone in ME2...
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