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Ryzaki wrote...

LOL poor default Shep.

Got a nose bleed over Vega's glorious body that he can't have. Poor baby. T_T


...and cried over it. All at the same time.

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I have no idea why it's being assumed that being gay in ME3 takes serious effort.
Telling Cortez just seems to be a matter of not having an active romance at the time.

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Collider wrote...

I have no idea why it's being assumed that being gay in ME3 takes serious effort.
Telling Cortez just seems to be a matter of not having an active romance at the time.


Besides, IIRC it was said that starting one romance automatically blocks all others, so it's not like you have to reject all the women first.

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SolidBeast wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

LOL poor default Shep.

Got a nose bleed over Vega's glorious body that he can't have. Poor baby. T_T


...and cried over it. All at the same time.


Can't really blame the poor thing. :lol:

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Sheploo doesn't look as bad now!

I'm tossing up whether to try to make a new custom one or just use the default that I've had for two games.

I'll be able to check out the character creator when the demo finally loads. It's been downloading for over six hours.


Shame on you! Sheploo never looked bad.

I do wonder what improvements I will get for my Korean Shepards. Male and female.

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Modifié par Chun Hei, 12 février 2012 - 03:11 .


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SolidBeast wrote...

Hey, it's not my fault for believing she actually offered other legitimate services! It's in the advertising, damnit!
Besides, he was on guard..she practically raped him. There was nothing I could do...but watch. I... I should go.

Do you think it wouldn't have been as much an issue if your Shepard could have hugged some guy who did him a favor in the game (when does that ever happen, I know) and he took it at least as well as Shepard is forced to in these sequences?

I do agree that it's pretty one-sided when your Shepard is gay. And there's precious little you can do to get out of it (all the random affections, that is). And then you run to Kaidan with those pleading eyes, and he gives you nothing.

My renegade Shepard hit that, though. So she's not wrong all the time, even if she does occasionally end up assaulting gay men. :-)

Modifié par devSin, 12 février 2012 - 03:45 .


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SolidBeast wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
What I said only counts for humans.

God that just went somewhere horrible, didn't it

Well I suppose now I know why my cat is afraid of the bedroom.
@Ryzaki - not forever after all. He's going to kill himself. :wizard:


LMAO yes yes it did.

Poor Shep. You better give him the emo hairstyle.


No can do, going with defaultShep.

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"Why don't you love me, guys?!"

/poorPSat3am



Naww, I wouldn't worry too much about being "forever alone" - I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't seen a lot of evidence for Vega being S/S beyond the neutral dialogue, but the game definitely seems to be hinting that Kaidan possibly will be.

The "strong bond" mention, gender-neutral romantic dialogue, the way he was looking at Shepard in the demo... :P

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OMG, just finished the demo. Wow, the 'Kaidan look' is off the hook gay for my long suffering M Shep. Even more so than the sweaty/forehead-wiping/orange-light-of-unrequited-love from ME3. He looks amazing too. I am really holding a lot of hope for Patrick Weekes 'all caps' tweet. Just can't see any reason for it if Kaidan wasn't romancible for s/s

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ThePuppetWithNoStrings wrote...

The "strong bond" mention


This is *completely* my opinion with precious little evidence, but...

I thought the 'strong bond' was more to show new players why in the flying flip these random Alliance soldiers (Ashley or Kaidan) were being nice to Shepard. 

They meet up in the intro level and immediately know each other, new players might wonder who the character is. 

"A strong bond" can be interpreted a few ways, sure, but I wouldn't read so much into it. 

Remember that the overriding focus of *all* of the ME3 marketing, including the demo, has been attracting new players. They want mega millions on this game. 

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Okay, uh, word of advice: don't ask the writers about Sam/Steve. Patrick Weekes blocked me on Twitter for asking to clarify something.

Reading leaked beta information doesn't strike me as an egregious crime, but then I'm not a developer.

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SolidBeast wrote...

I don't like anyone being all up in my face, rubbing themselves against me, male or female. Sadly, I've found that people around me consider that perfectly normal behavior. I'd at least like to be able to avoid that in my games.


I find it hugely rude but no-one seems to get that except my oldest friends who are used to me.

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devSin wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Hey, it's not my fault for believing she actually offered other legitimate services! It's in the advertising, damnit!
Besides, he was on guard..she practically raped him. There was nothing I could do...but watch. I... I should go.

Do you think it wouldn't have been as much an issue if your Shepard could have hugged some guy who did him a favor in the game (when does that ever happen, I know) and he took it at least as well as Shepard is forced to in these sequences?

I do agree that it's pretty one-sided when your Shepard is gay. And there's precious little you can do to get out of it (all the random affections, that is). And then you run to Kaidan with those pleading eyes, and he gives you nothing.

My renegade Shepard hit that, though. So she's not wrong all the time, even if she does occasionally end up assaulting gay men. :-)


I already said I don't like people being all up in my face, male or female. It's not just a casual hug, the whole thing is set up as if my character is supposed to accept and enjoy the flirting. See, I have no issues with hugging Tali, for example. It's an entirely different thing. It's not like I'm going "oh noooo, a female touched me, brb gotta run to decontamination!"
Besides, I don't play Shepard as a gay man 100% of the time. In fact, a lot of my playthroughs are with femShep, as Mass Effect is one of the rare games where a female character isn't too girly (femHawke, anyone?). But that's an entirely different matter.
On to Dragon Age, as an example. I liked being given the option to flirt with that guard in DAO and with the noble in DA2. But if the scene was set up so I had to, and if that guard was all over me I would have thought "What the hell? What if I don't want to do that?" and my feelings would probably have been similar on the matter. But the additional thing that adds to my dislike for the Asari flirting is the fact that BioWare apparently thinks we all adore the Asari. "Please, it's an Asari. Of course you have no problems with her rubbing her blue azure against you." If there was a male race that was "so hot no one can resist them", I'd have felt the same way. The more something is forced on me, the more I will dislike it. I am supposed to decide if I like something or not. I don't like having it decided for me.

And finally, I'm not a touchy-feely person IRL and I'm not a big fan of hugs. Sadly, the people I meet are complete opposites and hanging around my neck or jumping on me, male or female, is incredibly fun. Obviously, the devs are those kinds of people.

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ThePuppetWithNoStrings wrote...

Naww, I wouldn't worry too much about being "forever alone" - I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't seen a lot of evidence for Vega being S/S beyond the neutral dialogue, but the game definitely seems to be hinting that Kaidan possibly will be.

The "strong bond" mention, gender-neutral romantic dialogue, the way he was looking at Shepard in the demo... :P


I'm with ElitePinecone on the "strong bond" mention. As for his look, that was totally gay, but is probably just a result of him and Ashley sharing animations. And the romantic dialogue, can't argue with that one, but the sex scene from the leak was femShep only. Yeah, I know it's unfinished, but still.

It's okay, it's not like my Shep will cry himself to sleep... all the time.

ElitePinecone wrote...

Okay, uh, word of advice: don't ask
the writers about Sam/Steve. Patrick Weekes blocked me on Twitter for
asking to clarify something.

Reading leaked beta information doesn't strike me as an egregious crime, but then I'm not a developer.


He already warned that asking about those things would earn you a block. Sorry, man. :(
https://twitter.com/...563312291684352

Modifié par SolidBeast, 12 février 2012 - 01:04 .


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I noticed that heterosexual male love interest romances make numerous references to the fact that the PC is a woman.
If the new romance is gender neutral, there's greater chance that it's not M/F only.

However, it's not clear how separate the new romance is the from the returning one. Very possibly the start is different but the rest is the same.

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SolidBeast wrote...

He already warned that asking about those things would earn you a block. Sorry, man. :(
https://twitter.com/...563312291684352


That was in response to my question on Feb 6 - I just didn't notice until now. 

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Just de-lurking in this thread to express my support for s/s romance i ME3. I have a dudeShep that will explore the gay option. Hopefully there will be a squad mate available since that's what I'd prefer (I have a thing about "battle couples") but if none are available, he'll go with Steve. I'm trying to avoid spoilers about details so I've been staying out of the discussions, but I'm glad to hear that he seems well written.

There's tons of things I could say about ME3 and some of the choices made by Bioware (some which have put a serious damper on my exitement), but it's all been said before so I won't repeat it here. I'm hoping that there'll still be game content that I can be pleasantly surprised with once I play the actual game. Hopefully, s/s content will be one of those things.

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Hi all, just stopping by to throw in my support for s/s romance in ME3 (long time lurker). I hope it meets everyone's expectations.

I have a question for you guys. Most of the playthroughs I am intending to import into ME3 (femshep and broshep) have already romanced someone along the way (mainly the VS). I'm assuming there will be a way to tell former LIs that you've moved on, but do you think they (especially the VS) will comment on you moving on to a s/s relationship?

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xAmilli0n wrote...
Hi all, just stopping by to throw in my support for s/s romance in ME3 (long time lurker). I hope it meets everyone's expectations.

I have a question for you guys. Most of the playthroughs I am intending to import into ME3 (femshep and broshep) have already romanced someone along the way (mainly the VS). I'm assuming there will be a way to tell former LIs that you've moved on, but do you think they (especially the VS) will comment on you moving on to a s/s relationship?

So far, the VS only seems to comment on the ME2 romances.

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Collider wrote...

So far, the VS only seems to comment on the ME2 romances.


Ah, fair enough.  I guess I can't expect bioware to come up with every single possible conversation that pops up in my mind :P

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Momiji.mii wrote...

Just de-lurking in this thread to express my support for s/s romance i ME3. I have a dudeShep that will explore the gay option. Hopefully there will be a squad mate available since that's what I'd prefer (I have a thing about "battle couples") but if none are available, he'll go with Steve. I'm trying to avoid spoilers about details so I've been staying out of the discussions, but I'm glad to hear that he seems well written.

There's tons of things I could say about ME3 and some of the choices made by Bioware (some which have put a serious damper on my exitement), but it's all been said before so I won't repeat it here. I'm hoping that there'll still be game content that I can be pleasantly surprised with once I play the actual game. Hopefully, s/s content will be one of those things.


I just de-lurked last night (lol, sounds dirty). Regarding choices by BW, there are a few things I'm still bitter about. I get the impression that Finis thought I was replying to him yesterday, but I was only tossing in my 2¢. I guess I should say that despite feeling slighted by BW in the past, I recognise an effort on their part, and I am cautiously optimistic atm. We'll just have to wait and see.

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SolidBeast wrote...
I already said I don't like people being all up in my face, male or female. It's not just a casual hug, the whole thing is set up as if my character is supposed to accept and enjoy the flirting. See, I have no issues with hugging Tali, for example. It's an entirely different thing. It's not like I'm going "oh noooo, a female touched me, brb gotta run to decontamination!"
On to Dragon Age, as an example. I liked being given the option to flirt with that guard in DAO and with the noble in DA2. But if the scene was set up so I had to, and if that guard was all over me I would have thought "What the hell? What if I don't want to do that?" and my feelings would probably have been similar on the matter. But the additional thing that adds to my dislike for the Asari flirting is the fact that BioWare apparently thinks we all adore the Asari. "Please, it's an Asari. Of course you have no problems with her rubbing her blue azure against you." If there was a male race that was "so hot no one can resist them", I'd have felt the same way. The more something is forced on me, the more I will dislike it. I am supposed to decide if I like something or not. I don't like having it decided for me.

And finally, I'm not a touchy-feely person IRL and I'm not a big fan of hugs. Sadly, the people I meet are complete opposites and hanging around my neck or jumping on me, male or female, is incredibly fun. Obviously, the devs are those kinds of people.


ALL OF THIS.

(snipped the FemShep part for a reason)

Especially the damned bolded.

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Any confirmation that the TLK files were cut from the demo? I really expected them by now.

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C'mon, Ryzaki and SolidBeast! FEEL THE LOVE!

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Any confirmation that the TLK files were cut from the demo? I really expected them by now.

I'm guessing no one's gone through the effort.
That, or they encrypted them.