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AngelicMachinery wrote...
I expect it to be rather fairly split,  the female love interests are more varied and seemed for the most part better designed.  None of the ME2 males interests me all that much and it looks like for the most part the M/M fans agree with me...  what with their love kaidan.  

Personally though,  I'm surprised that Tali hasn't received more votes.

Still early + female poll's gonna be influenced by straight guys voting for Miranda

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Do you know what I'd like? The opportunity to express interest in any LI. Let them turn me down because they don't swing that way, but I'd like some of my Shepard's unrequited loves to exist outside my head.


I like this idea. I think half the reason I liked Aveline so much in DA2 was because she never fancied Hawke. 

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jtav wrote...

Do you know what I'd like? The opportunity to express interest in any LI. Let them turn me down because they don't swing that way, but I'd like some of my Shepard's unrequited loves to exist outside my head.


This!

That would be amazing.

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Male-Male romances:

Savable Good guy: Daniel, Mordin's old assistant. (100% gay)

A-hole who always lives:  Elias Kelham (Closet Gay) His lawyer is more than just a lawyer to him.

Former squadmate: Mordin (bisexual for humans)

Killable bad guy: Vido Santiago (100% gay)



Female-female romances:

A-hole who always lives: Al-Jilani (100% gay)

Killable bad gal: Helena Blake (bisexual)

Former squadmate: Miranda (100% gay, but also attracted to power and success)

Already present contenders: The Asari



Honorable mention:

Jane Shepard (bisexual obviously)

John Shepard, (50% gay, but only for Jacob). People always complain about how femshep flirst with him. Manshep isn't too far off from flirting himself. I thought there were gay romances at first after a few conversations with Jacob.

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IsaacShep wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...
I expect it to be rather fairly split,  the female love interests are more varied and seemed for the most part better designed.  None of the ME2 males interests me all that much and it looks like for the most part the M/M fans agree with me...  what with their love kaidan.  

Personally though,  I'm surprised that Tali hasn't received more votes.

Still early + female poll's gonna be influenced by straight guys voting for Miranda


I hadn't even thought of that,  I guess it will be a tad scewed...  which is unfortunate.

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jtav wrote...

Do you know what I'd like? The opportunity to express interest in any LI. Let them turn me down because they don't swing that way, but I'd like some of my Shepard's unrequited loves to exist outside my head.


As in Samara 'romance'?

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Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

jtav wrote...

Do you know what I'd like? The opportunity to express interest in any LI. Let them turn me down because they don't swing that way, but I'd like some of my Shepard's unrequited loves to exist outside my head.


I like this idea. I think half the reason I liked Aveline so much in DA2 was because she never fancied Hawke. 


She left my poor Hawkette broken hearted...  she had to console herself with lotsa dirty pirate secks.  :(

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IsaacShep wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...
I expect it to be rather fairly split,  the female love interests are more varied and seemed for the most part better designed.  None of the ME2 males interests me all that much and it looks like for the most part the M/M fans agree with me...  what with their love kaidan.  

Personally though,  I'm surprised that Tali hasn't received more votes.

Still early + female poll's gonna be influenced by straight guys voting for Miranda


True but almost all of the Kaidan fans I know are straight females, so it balances out! :P

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jtav wrote...

Do you know what I'd like? The opportunity to express interest in any LI. Let them turn me down because they don't swing that way, but I'd like some of my Shepard's unrequited loves to exist outside my head.


yes, I've expressed that wish once or twice before in other threads, but never gotten any feedback. Good to finally see, that I am not the only one.

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Straight female here. I actually think Miranda would be the hardest to write as a f/f interest because we get a better view of her sexual history, she's older and sexually confident, and she doesn't have much in the way of lines that could indicate romantic interest. Tali is almost ridiculously easy to make available, with her LOTSB dossier and hero worship.

That said, I've written Miranda as bisexual and would definitely take the option were it available.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Still early + female poll's gonna be influenced by straight guys voting for Miranda


The same could be said about Kaidan and polls being influenced by straight females.

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well, the reason for that is, imo that most player's see tali as a liitle-sister/ best-friend type of character, thus they are not that interested in romancing her. just my opinion though, could alos be that for many it seems strange for a young quarian to be interesteted in her female human friend. Ash and miri are more eye catchers than tali, and since i gather that mostly male players will play the f/f romances its kinda logical they get the most votes, ashley prob more because many fans've been waiting for that oppurtunity since the first ME

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The Twilight God wrote...
The same could be said about Kaidan and polls being influenced by straight females.

Except that there's much more male players in general on the boards (thus more gay/bi guys) compared to the number of girls (thus less lesbian/bi girls) so straight guys influence female s/s LI polls much more than straight females influence male s/s LI polls.

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IsaacShep wrote...

The Twilight God wrote...
The same could be said about Kaidan and polls being influenced by straight females.

Except that there's much more male players in general on the boards (thus more gay/bi guys) compared to the number of girls (thus less lesbian/bi girls) so straight guys influence female s/s LI polls much more than straight females influence male s/s LI polls.


I can assure you that the breakdown among the exclusively female who like other females is pretty much as this poll shows.  In fact I'd say Miranda is actually the leader followed by Ashley, instead of Ash followed by Miri as this poll shows.  I'd venture to say it's because many of the women feel similarily to this brilliant post written by Maria Caliban.  We like our options to be numerous and varied.  Even if we have a preferred type we need a variety to keep us satisfied!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 18 juin 2011 - 08:34 .


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Poor Jack... she's starting to fall behind QQ.

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You know that IF Bioware does make some of the original squad S/S options, there will be plenty of whining on these forums how the game is "ruined" because a "heart" option shows up in the dialog that will allow some other player to have a gay romance. It would be funny if Bioware makes up for this by greatly expanding the bro-mance option.

All the male characters are sitting around the camp fire, and the player is making damn sure he doesn't hit any of the "heart" options, but hits all the "bro-mance" options (represented by a flexed arm or something).

Shepard: Hell, yeah! It's great hanging out with my bros tonight!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Kaidan: Damn straight! I'm having another beer!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Garrus: Just reveling in our manliness! This is my rifle, this is my gun; one is for shooting, the other's for fun!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Jacob: [Crushes a beer can on his forehead] Can't wait till this war is over! We can spill us some drinks on the Citadel!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Thane: Wooo! Did you check out Miranda, back in her old Cerberus outfit! That ass is FINE!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Mordin: I can't believe she wore that clunky armor with those stupid glasses! She's a STRONG woman! People admire her "assets"!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Vega: How 'bout that Tali, huh? Gotta wonder what'll be like to get some Quarian action! To bad she'd get sick, otherwise she'd just be impressed!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Grunt: Hey! Everyone's amino acids are all different, so you could always go all natural!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Liara: Hey, bro, how's that enlisted action with Ashley?
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Shepard: HEY! NOBODY talks about MY girl, a'right?
Wrex: Oh..! Oops, sorry bro.
LEGION: Where's Joker? Why isn't he here?
Wrex: He's with Zaeed. They're gay.
Group: [Dramatic pause].
Wrex: Not that there's anything WRONG with that...
Group: Oh, no! No way! That's cool, that's cool...

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Abispa wrote...

You know that IF Bioware does make some of the original squad S/S options, there will be plenty of whining on these forums how the game is "ruined" because a "heart" option shows up in the dialog that will allow some other player to have a gay romance. It would be funny if Bioware makes up for this by greatly expanding the bro-mance option.

All the male characters are sitting around the camp fire, and the player is making damn sure he doesn't hit any of the "heart" options, but hits all the "bro-mance" options (represented by a flexed arm or something).

Shepard: Hell, yeah! It's great hanging out with my bros tonight!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Kaidan: Damn straight! I'm having another beer!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Garrus: Just reveling in our manliness! This is my rifle, this is my gun; one is for shooting, the other's for fun!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Jacob: [Crushes a beer can on his forehead] Can't wait till this war is over! We can spill us some drinks on the Citadel!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Thane: Wooo! Did you check out Miranda, back in her old Cerberus outfit! That ass is FINE!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Mordin: I can't believe she wore that clunky armor with those stupid glasses! She's a STRONG woman! People admire her "assets"!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Vega: How 'bout that Tali, huh? Gotta wonder what'll be like to get some Quarian action! To bad she'd get sick, otherwise she'd just be impressed!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Grunt: Hey! Everyone's amino acids are all different, so you could always go all natural!
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Liara: Hey, bro, how's that enlisted action with Ashley?
Wrex: Oh, hell yeah!
Shepard: HEY! NOBODY talks about MY girl, a'right?
Wrex: Oh..! Oops, sorry bro.
LEGION: Where's Joker? Why isn't he here?
Wrex: He's with Zaeed. They're gay.
Group: [Dramatic pause].
Wrex: Not that there's anything WRONG with that...
Group: Oh, no! No way! That's cool, that's cool...


Would be better if Jacob and Vega accidentally touched hands and declared "No ****** bro."

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

[Would be better if Jacob and Vega accidentally touched hands and declared "No ****** bro."


Sadly, I've actually seen moments like that IRL.

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What poll are you guys talking about? I want to participate in it.

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http://social.bioware.com/110/polls/

Specifically the last two.

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poll about which old LI would be our must have s/s option

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I'm a gay gal that voted Miranda.

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

Poor Jack... she's starting to fall behind QQ.


Ah, I would've voted for her, had it not been for the fact I want to romance Ashley, and Jack's "girl's club" comment to femShep.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

I can assure you that the breakdown among the exclusively female who like other females is pretty much as this poll shows.  In fact I'd say Miranda is actually the leader followed by Ashley, instead of Ash followed by Miri as this poll shows.  I'd venture to say it's because many of the women feel similarily to this brilliant post written by Maria Caliban.  We like our options to be numerous and varied.  Even if we have a preferred type we need a variety to keep us satisfied!


There is so much truth to both yours and Maria's posts. I know a lot of people seem to dislike the fact that all the LI were bisexual in DA2 but honestly it's something I greatly appreciated. I didn't know it til chapter 2, so I automatically went with Isabela because I knew she was an F/F option. Come to find out Merrill was also interested in my LadyHawke and not only did that make me so happy because I knew I'd have more than one choice, but it also meant I had something to look forward to on future playthroughs. There are more potential LIs in ME3 so I'm not exactly saying every one of them should be bisexual, but giving us a choice would be wonderful. I have multiple FemSheps, and I can't make *all* of them loyal to Liara (granted I didn't, I do have one not involved with her romantically so that I can see what the consequences are for "cheating" on an ME1 LI, so that falls on Kaidan XP) because there wouldn't be any variety in my playthroughs. If I have multiple options to continue on with my Sheps of varying personalities, I'll be quite the happy camper.

Modifié par CalamityRanger, 18 juin 2011 - 09:19 .


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From what I have observed, the following characters can possibly be bisexual, out of in-game evidence or the fact that their sexuality has never been fully explored:

1. Tali (linking suits comment to female Shepard in ME2)
2. Garrus
3. Kaidan
4. Thane
5. Jacob
6. Jack (Did she mention having an orgy once? Don't remember.)
7. Ashley

I doubt the following characters are bisexual, however:

1. Miranda (indications from the Shadow Broker's files compells me to believe that isn't bisexual)

And of course, Liara is perfectly bisexual.

I personally disapprove of retcons (with the exception being Tali or Jack, since evidence from ME2 suggests that they could be bisexual), so I hope the other romances (Ashley, Kaidan, Garrus, Thane, Jacob) remain heterosexual, since there isn't evidence from previous games to suggest that they are bisexual.