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[Ryzaki]

Anyway no Kaidan and Vega haven't been proven to be bisexual.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 13 février 2012 - 06:08 .

[Collider]

Okay but at least having an option to mention something about the mixed signals to Kaidan would resolve the situation for ManSheps in any event, even if the only possible outcome is rejection.

That does remind me. Male Shepard can flirt with Samantha, even though she just turns him down.
So maybe they'll do that.

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

Okay but at least having an option to mention something about the mixed signals to Kaidan would resolve the situation for ManSheps in any event, even if the only possible outcome is rejection.

That does remind me. Male Shepard can flirt with Samantha, even though she just turns him down.
So maybe they'll do that.

Like FemShep and X.

[Collider]

The demo tlk files apparently only contain the stuff that's in the actual demo.
So we're either going to have to wait for another leak, or wait until the game's released.

That is, unless Bioware decides to reveal all of the romance options on 2/14...which I doubt.
If they do decide to release romance options, I imagine it's only going to be the heterosexual ones (besides Liara of course).

[Ryzaki]

Collider wrote...

The demo tlk files apparently only contain the stuff that's in the actual demo.
So we're either going to have to wait for another leak, or wait until the game's released.

That is, unless Bioware decides to reveal all of the romance options on 2/14...which I doubt.
If they do decide to release romance options, I imagine it's only going to be the heterosexual ones (besides Liara of course).

Great. They plugged the leak. Meanies.

LIs should leak at least a week before the game releases. Happened with DAO and DA2.

[Finis Valorum]

Collider wrote...

The demo tlk files apparently only contain the stuff that's in the actual demo.
So we're either going to have to wait for another leak, or wait until the game's released.
 

Hopefully we'll get another leak soon, when they're gonna send full versions of the game to the game media and Fox News for review purposes.

[shepskisaac]

Collider wrote...
The demo tlk files apparently only contain the stuff that's in the actual demo.

So, they cleaned them up?

Collider wrote...
That is, unless Bioware decides to reveal all of the romance options on 2/14...which I doubt.
If they do decide to release romance options, I imagine it's only going to be the heterosexual ones (besides Liara of course).

Add lesbian romances to that. Doesn't seem like Jessica Chobot thoguht twice about announcing to the entire world she's a LI and for both male and female. It's like only male-male LIs are uber spoilers lol...

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 février 2012 - 06:16 .

[Collider]

Add lesbian romances to that. Doesn't seem like Jessica Chobot thoguht twice about announcing to the entire world she's a LI and for both male and female. It's like only male-male LIs are uber spoilers lol...

Well, going by precedent. For DA2's Valentine's Day, they only announced the heterosexual romance versions. Even though Isabela was already established in DA:O to be bisexual.

[SolidBeast]

IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Your optimism is killing me.

lol it's just hard for me to not be optimistic given all I know, especially when Raphael Sbarge said it will happen. But we'll see, if it doesn't happen my Shep will be with Cortez

Which reminds me, should have jumped in on his twitter and tried to get some info out of him.

[shepskisaac]

SolidBeast wrote...

Which reminds me, should have jumped in on his twitter and tried to get some info out of him.

He ain't gonna say anything more. Already at the convention where he said it, he also said right after that "haha I don't think I was suppoused to say that", something like that. His assistant, who posts on Kaidan thread, said she spoke with him about the convention slip up, but we never heard anything more about it so it's rather clear to me he doesn't want to say anything more after spilling it once already (even if it doesn't turn out to be true).

Modifié par IsaacShep, 13 février 2012 - 06:28 .

[SolidBeast]

IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Which reminds me, should have jumped in on his twitter and tried to get some info out of him.

He ain't gonna say anything more. Already at the convention where he said it, he also said right after that "haha I don't think I was suppoused to say that", something like that. His assistant, who posts on Kaidan thread, said she spoke with him about the convention slip up, but we never heard anything more about it so it's rather clear to me he won't want to say anything more after spilling it once already (even if it doesn't turn out to be true).

I know, I know. But pretending like we've already been informed works sometimes.

[shepskisaac]

SolidBeast wrote...
I know. But pretending like we've already been informed works sometimes.

Lol I already did that xD He knows that we know lol, his assistant saw us talking about his convention slip up multiple times xD

[SolidBeast]

IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
I know. But pretending like we've already been informed works sometimes.

Lol I already did that xD He knows that we know lol, his assistant saw us talking about his convention slip up multiple times xD

Not after the game went gold.

[shepskisaac]

SolidBeast wrote...
Not after the game went gold.

Yeah, but everyone's under NDAs till the official premiere. Except for Jessica Chobot and "hawt lesbian action" promo of course <_<

[SolidBeast]

IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Not after the game went gold.

Yeah, but everyone's under NDAs till the official premiere. Except for Jessica Chobot and "hawt lesbian action" promo of course <_<

*sigh*, I need to go kill something.

[Ricvenart]

Did anything ever come of the twitter reply to someone asking if they'd do a s/s weekend now femshep friday was over, wasn't the answer like maybe or wait and see. Was Bioware just unable to give a simple no again?

@Solidbeast: Bomb the Chantry, jugding by you're signiture that always cheers you up.
Edit: Cheered myself up saying it lol, just remembered the Jenga'd pic...damn my twisted sense of humour, it's damning me.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 13 février 2012 - 08:26 .

[Criz]

they had told e to keep my eyes peeled and see what happens on facebook, but unless they meant the Q&A ... wait isn't that on now?
well anyway, I didn't see anything noteworthy

[BrianWilly]

It's been a while since I've been on these forums and I've been trying to catch up on the news and leaks, hopefully these questions aren't gonna be too stupid lol...

1) I saw a Tumblr post someone made about Ash and Kaidan which described them as "outlook looks good for bi." Has there been any reasonable indication of that, or was that poster just indulging in wishful thinking due to gender-neutral dialogue of the script leaks? (I call it wishful thinking since, as we know from past experience, gender-neutral dialogue doesn't really mean anything in the long run)

2) And speaking of the dialogue leaks, it seems to me like people have been heartened/disheartened by what we've learned from that stuff...but that's not nearly all the party dialogue or even the finalized version of what is, am I correct?  In other words, those lines aren't the only things that people will be saying to each other in the game, and just because it's not in those files doesn't mean that it's been definitively excluded.  For instance, I've glanced at Cortez's dialogue and there hardly seems to be any renegade options whatsoever.  Same goes for most of the stuff I've looked at.

3) And speaking of Cortez, I understand there's been some discussion about Steve Cortez's model in the demo...my question is, is it possible that the model used in the demo isn't the one that's going to be used in the final game?  Lots of game demos that I've played use alternate models for convenience or to guard against spoilers; some demos have used completely different characters in place of ones that actually end up in the game lol.  So is it out of the question that the Cortez in the demo isn't the finalized Cortez? (Incidentally, I don't mind Cortez's model aesthetically, I'm just wondering if we might get a more unique face for the guy as opposed to something that could be done in character creation)

Tietj wrote...

As the makers of the game, they have every right to cater to whatever group they want to. If I were given freedom to design my own game, I would cater to gay guys (it wouldn't do so well sales-wise, of course). They don't "owe" anybody anything, and the fact that they decided to include us should be celebrated and lauded, not picked apart with suspicion.

I agree with this in theory...but on the other hand, if the makers of Mass Effect have catered to practically every single demographic except for gay men, then it's perfectly rational to accuse them of exclusionary or hypocritical behavior.

I'm very proud of Cortez's inclusion, I'm looking forward to playing through this storyline, and am especially pleased with BioWare's depiction of gay marriage in their ME future, in a context-heavy character plotline, which is sure to speak to a lot of current sociopolitical issues.  Bravo to this.  That being said, the cold hard truth is that prior Mass Effect games have not been been fair and inclusive to us in the past and -- based on cold hard numbers alone -- is even now heavily skewed against male/male pairings.  Cortez is a definite step forward.  But he's not the final step, and in my mind Bioware has a ways to go before they're beyond suspicion or reproach.

Modifié par BrianWilly, 13 février 2012 - 09:04 .

[Ziggeh]

BrianWilly wrote...
]I agree with this in theory...but on the other hand, if the makers of Mass Effect have catered to practically every single demographic except for gay men, then it's perfectly rational to accuse them of exclusionary or hypocritical behavior.

Call me cynical, but I'm not sure the inclusion of lesbian romance can be seen as intentionally catering to a lesbian demographic, but rather to the far, far broader "dudes who want to see chicks doin' it" audience.

[bas_kon]

Ziggeh wrote...

BrianWilly wrote...
]I agree with this in theory...but on the other hand, if the makers of Mass Effect have catered to practically every single demographic except for gay men, then it's perfectly rational to accuse them of exclusionary or hypocritical behavior.

Call me cynical, but I'm not sure the inclusion of lesbian romance can be seen as intentionally catering to a lesbian demographic, but rather to the far, far broader "dudes who want to see chicks doin' it" audience.

I wouldn't mind if they included 3 or 4 m/m LI's just  because of "gals who want to see guys doin' it", I just don't care about their motivations, only the content I get to play and enjoy, and afaik, it's less than anyone else (f/f or o/s) hence not fair. Although I appreciate having Cortez there whatsoever.

[devSin]

BrianWilly wrote...

1) I saw a Tumblr post someone made about Ash and Kaidan which described them as "outlook looks good for bi." Has there been any reasonable indication of that, or was that poster just indulging in wishful thinking due to gender-neutral dialogue of the script leaks?

It goes in cycles. Some days, it's sure to happen. Other days, it's sure not to happen.

Nobody knows. Nobody has any better indication of the truth than you do, even if all you know is that Ashley and Kaidan are in the game.

I truthfully feel that it won't happen. I think a single out-of-squad vanity gay romance is as close as they want to go, although I think three or maybe even four lesbian romance sequences are confirmed (Kelly, Liara, the reporter, and Steve's female counterpart).

BrianWilly wrote...

2) And speaking of the dialogue leaks, it seems to me like people have been heartened/disheartened by what we've learned from that stuff...but that's not nearly all the party dialogue or even the finalized version of what is, am I correct?

From what I understand, the "leak" is actually the talk table for whatever version Microsoft had at the time.

The talk table of any BioWare game is confusing. So a lot of it would be guesswork as to how the strings related, since they're not assembled in coherent, sequential order.

But I haven't seen the leak, refuse to look at it, and generally really dislike people who post things about it on the forums here. I'm looking at you, the last few pages here.

BrianWilly wrote...

3) And speaking of Cortez, I understand there's been some discussion about Steve Cortez's model in the demo...my question is, is it possible that the model used in the demo isn't the one that's going to be used in the final game?

Anything is possible. I wouldn't depend on it, though.

Modifié par devSin, 13 février 2012 - 09:34 .

[Ziggeh]

bas_kon wrote...
I wouldn't mind if they included 3 or 4 m/m LI's just  because of "gals who want to see guys doin' it"

Putting on my sweeping generalisation hat, but I suspect that that, again, is a much smaller demographic. Because we're basically talking about "hetero male".

bas_kon wrote...
I just don't care about their motivations, only the content I get to play and enjoy, and afaik, it's less than anyone else (f/f or o/s) hence not fair.

Don't get me wrong, and I'm seriously all for these options, I'm just not sure we can expect "fair" to be carrying a lot of weight when it comes to doling out resources.

[SolidBeast]

Ricvenart wrote...

@Solidbeast: Bomb the Chantry, jugding by you're signiture that always cheers you up.

It does, but what follows is incredibly nauseating. In fact, the entire game is. God I love that feeling.

Edit: Cheered myself up saying it lol, just remembered the Jenga'd pic...damn my twisted sense of humour, it's damning me.

....What?

Criz-Zone wrote...

they had told e to keep my eyes peeled
and see what happens on facebook, but unless they meant the Q&A ...
wait isn't that on now?
well anyway, I didn't see anything noteworthy

To my mind, that reply sounded generic. Or made by someone who was only vaguely informed about "something romance-related on Valentine's day".

Also, the argument about watching guys / girls doing it is strange to me, since, well, you don't actually see anyone "doing it".

[shepskisaac]

BrianWilly wrote...

1) I saw a Tumblr post someone made about Ash and Kaidan which described them as "outlook looks good for bi." Has there been any reasonable indication of that, or was that poster just indulging in wishful thinking due to gender-neutral dialogue of the script leaks? (I call it wishful thinking since, as we know from past experience, gender-neutral dialogue doesn't really mean anything in the long run)

Yes, there is a reasonable indication of Kaidan being available for gay romance because his voice actor said so back in June.

[Chun Hei]

bas_kon wrote...

I'm starting to hate these forums <_<. One sec he is bi, the other one he isn't. They shoud just tell us he isn't and stop playing with us.

Well since Bioware has not said who is or is not "bi" they really are not playing with us. It is more of a case of... us playing with ourselves.