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#17026
bigbrowncows

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Well, it saves the need to actually workout I suppose... Lol <- lazy

#17027
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Ryzaki wrote...

@Solid: what's so funny?


Just the way you worded it and the image of it working like that IRL. :P

bigbrowncows wrote...

Well, it saves the need to actually workout I suppose... Lol <- lazy


Missed my point. :whistle:

#17028
bigbrowncows

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I think I got it, I'm just too bashful to make assumptions like that... ;-)
Lol

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bigbrowncows wrote...

I think I got it, I'm just too bashful to make assumptions like that... ;-)
Lol


Great. Now I seem full of myself. /failsatjokes

#17030
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Do we take this as confirmation Kaidan's definitely not a s/s option?
Raphael Sbarge had this to say in an interview:

"In addition to that, the play-through options with the femShep character are pretty dynamic."
Link

#17031
Ryzaki

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SolidBeast wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Solid: what's so funny?


Just the way you worded it and the image of it working like that IRL. :P


Oooh I see.

About Sbarge's quote. I dunno. They might've give him a nice reprimand for letting it slip before so he only mentions FemShep now. ^_^

#17032
bigbrowncows

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SolidBeast wrote...

bigbrowncows wrote...

I think I got it, I'm just too bashful to make assumptions like that... ;-)
Lol


Great. Now I seem full of myself. /failsatjokes


Lol - not at all. Every time I see Vega I'll be thinking of you :kissing: Lol

#17033
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@bigbrowncows - in that case, your image of me is all wrong :lol:

Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Solid: what's so funny?


Just the way you worded it and the image of it working like that IRL. :P


Oooh I see.

About Sbarge's quote. I dunno. They might've give him a nice reprimand for letting it slip before so he only mentions FemShep now. ^_^


I was hopeful when I started reading that and then...
I am so disappointed in myself.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 14 février 2012 - 04:29 .


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God I was really hopeful 'till I stumble into reality with that post. It's VERY disappointing, but it's better to know it now than later. I guess I'll never know what it feels like to romance my favourite character in the game :P

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At least you'll be able to bromance Kaidan.

#17036
Ryzaki

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Meh. If I want bromance I'll go with Garrus and Vega.
They don't have the annoying middle needless drama stage.

#17037
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Collider wrote...

At least you'll be able to bromance Kaidan.


No thanks, Straight Kaidan just don't exists in my ME3 playthroughs.
I didn't fully trust bioware, so I edited my main Shepard's import save some time ago, to have Ash alive and will do that with every single one. At least I'll get the pleasure of killing her again in ME3, that's something :lol:.

#17038
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I feel like I've been punched in the face. Incidentally, I just want someone to punch me in the face for feeling this way.

#17039
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SolidBeast wrote...

I feel like I've been punched in the face. Incidentally, I just want someone to punch me in the face for feeling this way.

I feel pretty much the same, even though we have Steve. But this was the last opportumity we had to romance him, a character we knew and loved (at least most of us). And what p*sses me off is that straights had their Tali's and Garrus' love in spite of the lore. In fact I'm starting to feel like punching some straight male whiner's face now rather than being punched. :lol:

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oh nooo... I really hoped he was an option. well, if he isn't one, then ashley isn't available either. :-( so all what we'll get is steve (and samantha and diana for females), but I wanted a squaddi. *cries*

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Wow, so was Cortez added just to be the token gay and just so that Bioware could make as many lesbian sex options without angering the fans?  I'm starting to feel like Bioware really, really wanted to add more lesbian options but knew they would get backlash from people wanting male/male relationships, so they added ONE token gay relationship and hoped people would be happy with that and wouldn't call them out on their unequal treatment of gay male relationships.

We've already established that the number of players playing as female Shepard are far fewer than those playing male Shepards to warrant so many more lesbian options than gay options.  If both Vega and Kaidan end up being straight, is there anyone else (a male fling à la Kelly or this reporter) that could possibly be in the game?  If not, it really is a load of crap.

How can one Bioware gaming team (Dragon Age) be so good at treating equally these relationships but the other team (ME) reserve such a clearly preferential treatment to one type of relationship while nearly ignoring the other?   How vocal do you think people will be if indeed Cortez is the only male option for male Shepard?  And do you think it could encourage Bioware to release DLC to rebalance the number of possible relationships or do you think that will be that?

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SolidBeast wrote...

I feel like I've been punched in the face. Incidentally, I just want someone to punch me in the face for feeling this way.


*crackles knuckles* 

I thought you'd never ask! :wub: 

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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

I feel like I've been punched in the face. Incidentally, I just want someone to punch me in the face for feeling this way.


*crackles knuckles* 

I thought you'd never ask! :wub: 


In that case, I wish you were here right now.


Well I hope the "ew, you won't get my Kaidan" crowd is gloating right now.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 14 février 2012 - 05:02 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

@Solid: what's so funny?


Just the way you worded it and the image of it working like that IRL. :P


Oooh I see.

About Sbarge's quote. I dunno. They might've give him a nice reprimand for letting it slip before so he only mentions FemShep now. ^_^

I'm going to see the glass half-full. So I'm going to ditto on Ryzaki. Also consider how much the VAs actually know about the context of what they are reading and what exactly is going where. 

#17045
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SolidBeast wrote...
In that case, I wish you were here right now.


Well I hope the "ew, you won't get my Kaidan" crowd is gloating right now.


I'll be with you in spirit if nothing else.

Psh. Let them gloat.

@MA: That and his words were remarkably gender neutral save that one FemShep line.

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LiaraShepard wrote...

oh nooo... I really hoped he was an option. well, if he isn't one, then ashley isn't available either. :-( so all what we'll get is steve (and samantha and diana and kelly and Liara for females), but I wanted a squaddi. *cries*


fixed:blush:.

@ReveurIngenu: I don't think they added it just to add more f/f, but it would certainly look like that. I mean, new players who don't even know who Kaidan is and the ones who previously rejected him, will have the chance to romance him as f!shep, yet players who played the entire series in celibate waiting for him won't. Plus he was always the most popular choice for m/m LI, even most of the straight males thought so.

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I'm confused about all the negative nancy responses over that interview. I read it and all it said was that Kaiden has some very dynamic interactions with Female Shepard. He did not say anything about his interactions with maleshep. I would be much more concerned if he had added "and he has a very interesting friendship path with maleshep."

So all we can conclude from the interview is that he chose to talk about his interactions with Maleshep.

As others had said, I'm sure if there was s/s with Kaiden he would have been told in the strongest of terms to keep it quiet.

The pattern of speech in that interview, in my opinion, clearly suggests not talking about that subject. So in this sense, given the way he acts towards maleshep in the demo and that he said nothing about maleshep, I'd say that no news is good (or at least hopeful) news.

Personally I am hoping like hell I can romance Ashley with Femshep

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Noting that the femShep playthrough options are dynamic basically means that the manShep ones aren't. And that can mean only one thing.

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Collider wrote...

At least you'll be able to bromance Kaidan.


If he shares animations with Ashley and Manshep shares them with FemShep again, you know, that's going to be unbearable, at least Vega seems properly designed for it.
I think I'm gonna change the ManSheps, I actually care to import to FemSheps and just forget about it, since it seems that ManShep will still be presented like crap (aka a flirtatious ****) in this game.
Also hope they get to kill Kaidan in a variety of gruesome ways (except for Allison of course, but then again she's a remorseless killer who gladly and gleefully sacrificed an entire colony of Batarians in Arrival, after doing the same at Torfan and that's the kind of girl Kaidan will, totally and realistically keep falling for).


Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Wasn't that Steve sitting in the
background at a computer when she was speaking both before and after
Sheard enters the conference room or whatever it is?  It sure looked
like him.


If it was a generic Alliance soldier all that illustrates is how truly generic they've kept the only m/m option.

ElitePinecone wrote...
If we like it, we buy it. If we don't like it, we show them with horrible sales figures and they go back to the drawing board.


Yeah, well gonna see how that turns out for DA3. That'll be the first litmus test on how Bioware, under EA guidance, will deal with disappointing sales figures.
My guess is the odds are about 50/50 on them actually adressing the concerns everyone raised about it versus blaming it on some other things like too much dialogue and not enough action or perhaps even the all bi Li's.

SolidBeast wrote...

Noting that the femShep playthrough
options are dynamic basically means that the manShep ones aren't. And
that can mean only one thing.


Sadly true.

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 14 février 2012 - 05:22 .


#17050
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or maybe the voice actor means the playthrough options with fem shep are pretty dynamic, because of the move on moment in mass effect 2. maybe it was a reference to players who had been in a relationship with kaidan before they "cheated" him with jacob, thane or garrus. otherwise the voice actor could have said the romance option with fem shep are pretty dynamic...but he said the plathrough options. and well, fem shep might really have more playthrough options, because she can start a new relationship with kaidan, follow an old relationship with him and restart a broken relationship. okay...that's adynamic variety of choices...well, I'm just hoping ._.

Modifié par LiaraShepard, 14 février 2012 - 05:23 .