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Noting that the femShep playthrough options are dynamic basically means that the manShep ones aren't. And that can mean only one thing.


As someone who've read the leaked script his non romantic path is plenty dynamic. (You can be BFFs, professional, SCREW YOU I HATE YOU!) and this applies for both Sheps.

So...I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

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@Aurellia: He talks about shepard's relationship with Kaidan in general and then says: In addition to that, f!shep's options with him, are pretty dynamic. Don't you worry, so far Ash would be the only one straight romancable female LI, so it's likely they make her bi.

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Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Noting that the femShep playthrough options are dynamic basically means that the manShep ones aren't. And that can mean only one thing.


As someone who've read the leaked script his non romantic path is plenty dynamic. (You can be BFFs, professional, SCREW YOU I HATE YOU!) and this applies for both Sheps.

So...I'm not seeing what you're seeing.


Maybe, I haven't read beyond what's on that blog. But being able to romance him certainly gives femShep a dynamic that manShep doesn't get.

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SolidBeast wrote...

Noting that the femShep playthrough options are dynamic basically means that the manShep ones aren't. And that can mean only one thing.


No it means that they are dynamic.  He gives no indication of how 'dynamic' the manShep ones are.  For example the female shepard interactions may be dynamic because they have more romantic history and drama in ME1/ME2 where as maleShep would be a simpler story of unfulfilled love.  

If he was able to talk about it he could say something like the interaction with manShep is potentially very surprising:)

My point is we don't really know anything other than what he said.  We should not read too much or too little between the lines.

I think Kaidan in Mass Effect 1 had some humor, and I believe that there's some more of that in Mass Effect 3. But, mostly, the difference between Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3 is, you'll hear a lot more of him. In addition to that, the play-through options with the FemShep character are pretty dynamic.


Based on this we know the following:

- he will tell more jokes
- he will talk more
- the play through options with FemShep are prettty dynamic
- he says nothing about the options with MaleShep

The interesting question is why did he say nothing about MaleShep?  If they were really not doing anything s/s it seems like this would be an ideal opportunity to insert some spin to try to soften the landing when the news hits March 6, especially given that he was reported by 2 independent sources to have indicated that there was s/s Kaiden last June.  So given that there was no double talk what-so-ever about MaleShep.  I say no news is good news.

So let's wait and see.  I remain hopeful.

Modifié par Aurellia, 14 février 2012 - 05:37 .


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http://fangeek.com/2...lenko/#more-575

So anything good in store for male Shep and his friendship with Kaidan? He said, I get that people are into the romance, but he was my bro, and what’s the relationship like? Have they patched things up? Are they friends? Are they rivals? Is it player directed at all?

Some of that I can say, some of that I can’t say. But, straight up, obviously that relationship — that male relationship – is also very strong. The thing about Kaidan seems to be that he is a very loyal and devoted guy, and obviously the kind of guy who’ll be there when you need him. He’s not the kind of guy who’ll stab you in the back. He has been very much friends with male Shepard and remains so. Obviously, there are choices in this game, as there are in life. So you’ll get to take some various directions, as you wish, but the relationship remains strong, for sure, between male Shepard and Kaidan.

Take this how you will.

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bas_kon wrote...

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At least you'll be able to bromance Kaidan.


No thanks, Straight Kaidan just don't exists in my ME3 playthroughs.
I didn't fully trust bioware, so I edited my main Shepard's import save some time ago, to have Ash alive and will do that with every single one. At least I'll get the pleasure of killing her again in ME3, that's something :lol:.

Whatever floats your boat.
I found Kaidan attractive in ME1. But I'm perfectly fine with just friendship paths. I felt it was rather lacking in ME1, so I'm intrigued by the potential in ME3.

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SolidBeast wrote...

Maybe, I haven't read beyond what's on that blog. But being able to romance him certainly gives femShep a dynamic that manShep doesn't get.


True enough. Negative nancy. :whistle:

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http://fangeek.com/2...lenko/#more-575

So anything good in store for male Shep and his friendship with Kaidan? He said, I get that people are into the romance, but he was my bro, and what’s the relationship like? Have they patched things up? Are they friends? Are they rivals? Is it player directed at all?

Some of that I can say, some of that I can’t say. But, straight up, obviously that relationship — that male relationship – is also very strong. The thing about Kaidan seems to be that he is a very loyal and devoted guy, and obviously the kind of guy who’ll be there when you need him. He’s not the kind of guy who’ll stab you in the back. He has been very much friends with male Shepard and remains so. Obviously, there are choices in this game, as there are in life. So you’ll get to take some various directions, as you wish, but the relationship remains strong, for sure, between male Shepard and Kaidan.

Take this how you will.


This gives even more hope:)  This wording to me prepares the bro-mancers for the possibility that it could move from bro-mance to ro-mance.

Modifié par Aurellia, 14 février 2012 - 05:41 .


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Collider wrote...

http://fangeek.com/2...lenko/#more-575


Some of that I can say, some of that I can’t say. But, straight up, obviously that relationship — that male relationship – is also very strong. The thing about Kaidan seems to be that he is a very loyal and devoted guy, and obviously the kind of guy who’ll be there when you need him. He’s not the kind of guy who’ll stab you in the back. He has been very much friends with male Shepard and remains so. Obviously, there are choices in this game, as there are in life. So you’ll get to take some various directions, as you wish, but the relationship remains strong, for sure, between male Shepard and Kaidan.

Take this how you will.

Another confirmation thaat he's not bi?:lol:

I'm confused you know? It does really say something but I don't know what...

Modifié par bas_kon, 14 février 2012 - 05:42 .


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This gives even more hope:)

Sort of.
There's something very spoilery in ME3 regarding Kaidan and male Shepard's "relationship."
And it has nothing to do with romance.

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bas_kon wrote...

Collider wrote...

http://fangeek.com/2...lenko/#more-575


Some of that I can say, some of that I can’t say. But, straight up, obviously that relationship — that male relationship – is also very strong. The thing about Kaidan seems to be that he is a very loyal and devoted guy, and obviously the kind of guy who’ll be there when you need him. He’s not the kind of guy who’ll stab you in the back. He has been very much friends with male Shepard and remains so. Obviously, there are choices in this game, as there are in life. So you’ll get to take some various directions, as you wish, but the relationship remains strong, for sure, between male Shepard and Kaidan.

Take this how you will.

Another confirmation thaat he's not bi?:lol:

I thought that was more confirmation that he IS bi. 

....unless you're being sarcastic in which case....I'll be going now. :ph34r:

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@MA: Yes I was been sarcastic, sarcasm is the only thing we have left... and Steve.:D

Modifié par bas_kon, 14 février 2012 - 05:44 .


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Collider wrote...

This gives even more hope:)

Sort of.
There's something very spoilery in ME3 regarding Kaidan and male Shepard's "relationship."
And it has nothing to do with romance.


I don't want to know but I hope is isn't something along the lines of 

Darth Vader said...
*DEEP BREETHING*

Especially for... sister. So, you have a twin sister. Your feelings have now betrayed her, too. Obi-Wan was wise to hide her from me...


If that happens I may throw my controller at the screen:)

Modifié par Aurellia, 14 février 2012 - 05:45 .


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Collider wrote...

This gives even more hope:)

Sort of.
There's something very spoilery in ME3 regarding Kaidan and male Shepard's "relationship."
And it has nothing to do with romance.


Honestly though that applies for both Sheps. Male or female. :?

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Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

This gives even more hope:)

Sort of.
There's something very spoilery in ME3 regarding Kaidan and male Shepard's "relationship."
And it has nothing to do with romance.


Honestly though that applies for both Sheps. Male or female. :?

Yup. It's also something he can't talk about.

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Collider wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

This gives even more hope:)

Sort of.
There's something very spoilery in ME3 regarding Kaidan and male Shepard's "relationship."
And it has nothing to do with romance.


Honestly though that applies for both Sheps. Male or female. :?

Yup. It's also something he can't talk about.


...That stabbed in the back comment is...well...:unsure: makes me wonder what his definition of stab in the back is.

True enough.

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@Ryz:
Makes me think he doesn't really know what he's talking about :lol:

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Calling it now (Actually, called it months ago):

He's indoctrinated. Horizon anyone?

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@Ryz:
Makes me think he doesn't really know what he's talking about :lol:


You mean the scene where he [spoiler] and then Shepard [spoiler] and then the rest of the party joins in?

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SolidBeast wrote...

You mean the scene where he [spoiler] and then Shepard [spoiler] and then the rest of the party joins in?


You know that scene is only in the Fox News special review edition.

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@Ryz:
Makes me think he doesn't really know what he's talking about :lol:


Me neither come to think of it. :?

@MA: Someone gets indoctrinated depending on your choices. I won't say who though. :P

@Solid: Something like that. :lol:

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Enough with the spoilers, folks.

To be truthful, I think I still did have some expectation that there would be more than a single non-squad romance option. Although I suppose it's little risk to just have a token nod to characters who can't get involved with any of the "real" romances.

Looks like chaste Shepard is moving on to the finish line! Vaya con Dios, gay Shepard.

Modifié par devSin, 14 février 2012 - 05:58 .


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Finis Valorum wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

You mean the scene where he [spoiler] and then Shepard [spoiler] and then the rest of the party joins in?


You know that scene is only in the Fox News special review edition.


Nonsense. I know a certain website where that happens all the time. It's technically illegal in council space, though.

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Psh. @Dev: For all you know I was making it all up XD

Though yay shipping <3

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For what it's worth, it's possible they'll be more inclusive in future Mass Effect games now.