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#17201
Frozen83

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Collider wrote...

Frozen83 wrote...

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At the start of ME2, Kaidan is wearing Ashley's signature armor.

Liara wears the same armor. I decided to believe Systems Alliance finally bought them some new equipment after ME1 events, hence the same armor Posted Image. M.

Liara has her own helmet, though.

Helmets are unique. You can slap some stickers on them or paint them if you want Posted Image.

What news? Can't see the group (private). M.

#17202
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IsaacShep wrote...

Hi guys Posted Image



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Tyoes!!!

So hoping he's right. BW should confirm already! It's less than a month now, come onnnnn.  :happy:

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 15 février 2012 - 12:10 .


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Frozen83 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Frozen83 wrote...

Collider wrote...
At the start of ME2, Kaidan is wearing Ashley's signature armor.

Liara wears the same armor. I decided to believe Systems Alliance finally bought them some new equipment after ME1 events, hence the same armor Posted Image. M.

Liara has her own helmet, though.

Helmets are unique. You can slap some stickers on them or paint them if you want Posted Image.

What news? Can't see the group (private). M.


Kinda-sorta-maybe reliable source says Kaidan and Ashley are available for both Shepards for new romance in ME3. 

Trouble is nobody can see the original post since the forum is cut off to unregistered users, and requires payment. 

I'm going to hold off celebrating until we actually see the evidence, and until it's got just a bit more confirmation...

But I am more hopeful. :happy:

#17204
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I wonder if they're going to go for the all bisexual approach for the love interests in ME3. You know, besides the cameo ME2 squad mates and Steve/Samantha.

Modifié par Collider, 15 février 2012 - 12:12 .


#17205
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ElitePinecone wrote...

If the news Isaac posted is true... poor Steve.

IDGI :huh: Anyway, I'm planning to romance all dem boys :devil: Cortez is so cute, funny and hot :wub:

#17206
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Think about it...

M/M options:
Kaidan
Vega
Garrus
Steve

F/F options:
Liara
Ashley
Tali
Samantha

Equalness.

#17207
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Collider wrote...

I wonder if they're going to go for the all bisexual approach for the love interests in ME3. You know, besides the cameo ME2 squad mates and Steve/Samantha.

Well that way you get the most bang for a buck, so it is my prefered option and personal hope.

I never really understood how anyone can make claims that four to five bi-(or hero-)sexual people would be unrealistic in a game which, amongst other things, has giant space squids made out of liquified people as main enemies.

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Wittand25 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I wonder if they're going to go for the all bisexual approach for the love interests in ME3. You know, besides the cameo ME2 squad mates and Steve/Samantha.

Well that way you get the most bang for a buck, so it is my prefered option and personal hope.

I never really understood how anyone can make claims that four to five bi-(or hero-)sexual people would be unrealistic in a game which, amongst other things, has giant space squids made out of liquified people as main enemies.

I just hope the M/M romances (and F/F romances, for that matter) aren't too copy-and-paste or gender neutral. I would like some gender specificness.

#17209
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Collider wrote...

Think about it...

M/M options:
Kaidan
Vega
Garrus
Steve

F/F options:
Liara
Ashley
Tali
Samantha

Equalness.

Maybe equalness but without Tali & Garrus IMO. I really really doubt these two will happen. At most, they're gonna be available for new straight romances

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 février 2012 - 12:24 .


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Collider wrote...

Think about it...

M/M options:
Kaidan
Vega
Garrus
Steve

F/F options:
Liara
Ashley
Tali
Samantha

Equalness.


That would be neat.....and I'm still hoping for this :pinched:

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Maybe equalness but without Tali & Garrus IMO. I really really doubt these two will happen. At most, they're gonna be available for new straight romances

Why do you figure?

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You have brought glad tidings to us IssacShep. I still love Cortez but when I saw Kaidan in the demo my heart fluttered.

Maybe a mod could just post a figure? Pretty please? Anyone?

#17213
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Why do you figure?

Call it a hunch or something. 3 m/m and 3 f/f options would be already alot, especially considering BioWare's approach to the subject in the past. I'm not counting on a single option more than 3. Besides, there was little evidence anyway they're available for any kind of new romance

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 février 2012 - 12:30 .


#17214
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ElitePinecone wrote...

Kinda-sorta-maybe reliable source says Kaidan and Ashley are available for both Shepards for new romance in ME3. 

Trouble is nobody can see the original post since the forum is cut off to unregistered users, and requires payment. 

I'm going to hold off celebrating until we actually see the evidence, and until it's got just a bit more confirmation...

But I am more hopeful. :happy:

Ah! Cool, thanx!

So my Kaidan doesn't have to stay with Alistair by the fire finishing my beer after I excuse myself to Morrigan's tent... ummm... Wrong planet Posted Image. M.

#17215
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IsaacShep wrote...

Collider wrote...

Why do you figure?

Call it a hunch or something. 3 m/m and 3 f/f options would be already alot, especially considering BioWare's approach to the subject in the past. I'm not counting on a single option more than 3. Besides, there was little evidence anyway they're available for any kind of new romance

True enough. Alhough there were those Tali lines pointing to a possible new romance.

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Collider wrote...

Think about it...

M/M options:
Kaidan
Vega
Garrus
Steve

F/F options:
Liara
Ashley
Tali
Samantha

Equalness.


I would say thanks but no thanks to Garrus. I don't want my shep to get bird flu or something from that chicken in bucket. Hmm however if there will be a feast after happy ending I know what to serve...

"Sure he tastes like chicken" Posted Image

PS: Also you forgot Kelly. My canon f!Shep will romance with her again.

#17217
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Modifié par ElitePinecone, 15 février 2012 - 01:03 .


#17218
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nothing to see here :whistle:

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 février 2012 - 01:04 .


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ElitePinecone wrote...

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*dances*

I'll keep my fingers crossed :P

Modifié par Arik7, 15 février 2012 - 12:43 .


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Wittand25 wrote...

Collider wrote...

I wonder if they're going to go for the all bisexual approach for the love interests in ME3. You know, besides the cameo ME2 squad mates and Steve/Samantha.

Well that way you get the most bang for a buck, so it is my prefered option and personal hope.

I never really understood how anyone can make claims that four to five bi-(or hero-)sexual people would be unrealistic in a game which, amongst other things, has giant space squids made out of liquified people as main enemies.


Not to mention in a galaxy that large with that many people it's not THAT statistically unlikely that there could be that many bisexuals on one ship. Heck, most people probably pass more homosexuals and bisexuals at a shopping mall in one hour than there would be on the ship for the duration of Mass Effect 3.

Modifié par Augoeides, 15 février 2012 - 12:44 .


#17221
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ElitePinecone wrote...

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- Liara doesn't count as s/s because <verbal gymnastics>: well that's bull****
- Shepard is defined and can't be gay: double bull****! especially since ME is supposedly about choices; you can play as a woman; choose different backgrounds, etc


These two were pretty infuriating.

Re: ME and Kaidan's 'm/m' dialogue.

It's a contested issue, Patrick Weekes said about three years ago that they had both voice actors (Hale and Meer) record all of Shepard's lines, even those of the opposite gender, for some reason that I gather was vaguely to do with schedules, payment and 'just in case'. 

Somewhere along the line, the ME dev team had a high level meeting about making Ashley and Kaidan available for both Shepards, and decided not to do it. The reasons Weekes suggested had to do with 'doing justice to the characters' (make of that what you will, it's possible they didn't have time to create unique m/m and f/f sounding romances) and animation constraints.  

Another writer (Thomas something?) said it *was* planned, but eventually cut due to time constraints. Thing is, he didn't work on ME. 

I'd tend to believe the former over the latter. 

That being said, it's not a secret that many people in this thread and associated groups would like the VS as an option in ME3. 


I was aware of all this too, but wether true or not, imo none of this really explains the lack of m/m because ultimately if there was a desire (at executive level) to add m/m, then it would have been included. Please don't think that I'm just trying to be difficult, because we are pretty much in agreement. It's just, to me, not having m/m content in a game (any game) is irrelevant because:

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There is one thing. What the game creators want to write and have in their game.


... no one should be forced to include anything in their works (game, movie, art, whatevs). And in the particular case of ME, m/m content not being present wasn't an issue for me. BUT, what angered me to no end was that it later, upon inspection and from BW's reasoning after the fact, seemed that m/m content was singled out and actively excluded (if that makes any sense).

But thanks to IsaacShep it seems we have renewed hope (for the time being, at least).

#17222
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Sorry, my mistake.

#17223
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IsaacShep wrote...

nothing to see here :whistle:


What'd I miss?

Ah, this possibilty + the demo got me hopeful again, so I asked when the romance options will be made known to us on the Twitter ME page. The reply was, no ETA yet...:crying: How much longer must we be tortured!

Okay maybe not everyone is tortured but I am. :pinched: I had honestly thought we'd know on Valentine's Day. It's less than a month till release, what are they waiting for? Spring thaw??

#17224
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In other news, Shiala's voice actress confirmed she's not doing ME3 so no Shiala f/f (or o/s) romance it seems

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Unless they get another voice actor.