ElitePinecone wrote...
corky_g wrote...
- Liara doesn't count as s/s because <verbal gymnastics>: well that's bull****
- Shepard is defined and can't be gay: double bull****! especially since ME is supposedly about choices; you can play as a woman; choose different backgrounds, etc
These two were pretty infuriating.
Re: ME and Kaidan's 'm/m' dialogue.
It's a contested issue, Patrick Weekes said about three years ago that they had both voice actors (Hale and Meer) record all of Shepard's lines, even those of the opposite gender, for some reason that I gather was vaguely to do with schedules, payment and 'just in case'.
Somewhere along the line, the ME dev team had a high level meeting about making Ashley and Kaidan available for both Shepards, and decided not to do it. The reasons Weekes suggested had to do with 'doing justice to the characters' (make of that what you will, it's possible they didn't have time to create unique m/m and f/f sounding romances) and animation constraints.
Another writer (Thomas something?) said it *was* planned, but eventually cut due to time constraints. Thing is, he didn't work on ME.
I'd tend to believe the former over the latter.
That being said, it's not a secret that many people in this thread and associated groups would like the VS as an option in ME3.
I was aware of all this too, but wether true or not, imo none of this really explains the lack of m/m because ultimately if there was a desire (at executive level) to add m/m, then it would have been included. Please don't think that I'm just trying to be difficult, because we are pretty much in agreement. It's just, to me, not having m/m content in a game (any game) is irrelevant because:
Collider wrote...
There is one thing. What the game creators want to write and have in their game.
... no one should be forced to include anything in their works (game, movie, art, whatevs). And in the particular case of ME, m/m content not being present wasn't an issue for me. BUT, what angered me to no end was that it later, upon inspection and from BW's reasoning after the fact, seemed that m/m content was singled out and actively excluded (if that makes any sense).
But thanks to IsaacShep it seems we have renewed hope (for the time being, at least).