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ElitePinecone

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Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


She wasn't in the leaked beta, if I remember correctly.

Since PS3 players didn't get her, perhaps they figure there's not much point bringing her back.

Or Parasini ;__; 

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Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.

Hmmm perhaps. But there wasn't anything about her in the leak so it kinda fits.

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IsaacShep wrote...

In other news, Shiala's voice actress confirmed she's not doing ME3 so no Shiala f/f (or o/s) romance it seems


I nominate for her to return, voiced by "Pam Doove"

The changes to Shiala from being the Thorian's thrall for a time have taken a strange turn:



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Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


I rather she just not be in the game. Mordin's going to be annoying enough.

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@IsaacShep: I thought you had forsaken us, I never should have doubted you, I'm sorry.

I'll say no more than Thank you! for now.

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@IsaacShep: I thought you had forsaken us, I never should have doubted you, I'm sorry.


Sekrit intelligence gathering... 

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Ricvenart wrote...

@IsaacShep: I thought you had forsaken us, I never should have doubted you, I'm sorry.

I'll say no more than Thank you! for now.

My pleasure!

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:D ;)

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Ricvenart wrote...

@IsaacShep: I thought you had forsaken us, I never should have doubted you, I'm sorry.


Sekrit intelligence gathering... 

Did I miss something?

If this is legit info I'd like a PM. I'd really appretiate it.

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Blacklash93 wrote...

Did I miss something?

Check Kaidan's S/S group :whistle:

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Yeah me too, if possible. The group is private and I'd really like to know, specially if it's something legit.

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Join the group and you'll be able to see.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


I rather she just not be in the game. Mordin's going to be annoying enough.


More I play ME 2, more my thoughts on companions change. I've used to dislike Mordin (because of genophage) so since my first run last year I didn't do his loyality mission. Then I give him a chance couple of runs ago. Now I am always keeping him alive. If someone can cure the genophage, it is Mordin. (Krogans are my favorite race in ME with Drells)

Similar change happened with Zaeed but not on his loyality mission but on Jack's.

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Asperius wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


I rather she just not be in the game. Mordin's going to be annoying enough.


More I play ME 2, more my thoughts on companions change. I've used to dislike Mordin (because of genophage) so since my first run last year I didn't do his loyality mission. Then I give him a chance couple of runs ago. Now I am always keeping him alive. If someone can cure the genophage, it is Mordin. (Krogans are my favorite race in ME with Drells)

Similar change happened with Zaeed but not on his loyality mission but on Jack's.


No I adore Mordin.

Mordin's VA changed. :( And frankly I think it's horrible. It grates at my ears.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Asperius wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


I rather she just not be in the game. Mordin's going to be annoying enough.


More I play ME 2, more my thoughts on companions change. I've used to dislike Mordin (because of genophage) so since my first run last year I didn't do his loyality mission. Then I give him a chance couple of runs ago. Now I am always keeping him alive. If someone can cure the genophage, it is Mordin. (Krogans are my favorite race in ME with Drells)

Similar change happened with Zaeed but not on his loyality mission but on Jack's.


No I adore Mordin.

Mordin's VA changed. :( And frankly I think it's horrible. It grates at my ears.


Whaaa! Oh my... that is terrible. Posted Image

*think positive. think positive*

At least Miranda still has same VA. Oooo I love that lady from Chuck already... that makes Miranda double yummy.

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Ryzaki wrote...

Asperius wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


I rather she just not be in the game. Mordin's going to be annoying enough.


More I play ME 2, more my thoughts on companions change. I've used to dislike Mordin (because of genophage) so since my first run last year I didn't do his loyality mission. Then I give him a chance couple of runs ago. Now I am always keeping him alive. If someone can cure the genophage, it is Mordin. (Krogans are my favorite race in ME with Drells)

Similar change happened with Zaeed but not on his loyality mission but on Jack's.


No I adore Mordin.

Mordin's VA changed. :( And frankly I think it's horrible. It grates at my ears.


I think it could be worse. A lot worse.

I always keep Mordin, Tali and Legion alive because assumedly they have some fingers in some big plot pies. Never sure whether to keep Grunt or Jack though, because while I like my squad dangerous (Morinth, Thane, Miranda, Zaeed) I also like them with an ounce of predictability and intelligence, and those two go off the rails a bit much for me. Sometimes I feel they make Morinth look well-adjusted and frankly that thought scares me.

Having played the demo, I just feel that Kaidan is s/s available just because of the raw smoulder and sexual tension in the brief cutscenes we see him in. Of course that could just be a consequence of Sbarge's VA work.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Collider wrote...

Please share.

Get inside here guys: social.bioware.com/group/4616/discussion/19201/! Especially Kaidan AND Ashley fans!


No...No.





It can't be.

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SolidBeast wrote...

No...No.

It can't be.

Looks like it can!

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Asperius wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Asperius wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...

Unless they get another voice actor.


I rather she just not be in the game. Mordin's going to be annoying enough.


More I play ME 2, more my thoughts on companions change. I've used to dislike Mordin (because of genophage) so since my first run last year I didn't do his loyality mission. Then I give him a chance couple of runs ago. Now I am always keeping him alive. If someone can cure the genophage, it is Mordin. (Krogans are my favorite race in ME with Drells)

Similar change happened with Zaeed but not on his loyality mission but on Jack's.


No I adore Mordin.

Mordin's VA changed. :( And frankly I think it's horrible. It grates at my ears.


Whaaa! Oh my... that is terrible. Posted Image

*think positive. think positive*

At least Miranda still has same VA. Oooo I love that lady from Chuck already... that makes Miranda double yummy.


Yvonne Strahovski?

She is pretty darn amazing. Plus, Aussie representin'!

Miranda is just one character I could never imagine being s/s available. All I see is FemShep propositioning her and Miranda getting all distant and vaguely indignant about it:

"I'm flattered Shepard,  I really am, but don't you think it would wise to keep our relationship strictly professional?"
"Are you scared it will endanger the mission, Miranda"
"No, you've just mistaken me for another kind of woman. Is that all, Shepard?"

*Shepard makes a sad face, reaches into her pocket and pulls out a crushed tuna fish sandwich, unwraps it and eats it* <--- (I don't know what this part is about?)

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Augoeides wrote...

*Shepard makes a sad face, reaches into her pocket and pulls out a crushed tuna fish sandwich, unwraps it and eats it* <--- (I don't know what this part is about?)


O____________O

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@SolidBeast: Happy? Or too scared to get you're hopes up?
Wonder if it was intentional or subconious you used two gifs of stubbly guys.

I loved Mordin, I had mixed feelings of the genophage sure but after he kept telling himself the reasons even I started to believe it when he was in doubt. I loved the way he talked and most of all that Song...well done bioware well done. I don't mind the new voice, he's maintained some level of mordiness, I wouldn't say it grates certainly if anything I thought it sounded just a touch softer.
On the other hand, Jack I had a similar journey with but her loyalty mission for me was just an amazing use of character development I find her brilliant. If on the other hand she wanted to blow up a manned facility it she would be totally different for me.

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Vapaä wrote...

Collider wrote...

Think about it...

M/M options:
Kaidan
Vega
Garrus
Steve

F/F options:
Liara
Ashley
Tali
Samantha

Equalness.


That would be neat.....and I'm still hoping for this :pinched:


*sigh*, if only. I want Tali and the broker files give a real big hint...*sob

But we've also got Diana & Kelly as Bi - LI, so not really?

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Ricvenart wrote...

@SolidBeast: Happy? Or too scared to get you're hopes up?
Wonder if it was intentional or subconious you used two gifs of stubbly guys.

I loved Mordin, I had mixed feelings of the genophage sure but after he kept telling himself the reasons even I started to believe it when he was in doubt. I loved the way he talked and most of all that Song...well done bioware well done. I don't mind the new voice, he's maintained some level of mordiness, I wouldn't say it grates certainly if anything I thought it sounded just a touch softer.
On the other hand, Jack I had a similar journey with but her loyalty mission for me was just an amazing use of character development I find her brilliant. If on the other hand she wanted to blow up a manned facility it she would be totally different for me.


3 characters show this kinda progress. Mordin on loyality, Jack on both loyality and romance and Miranda on romance. This is why I try to do their missions asap.

If it ain't about armor upgrade I would skip most boring of LM, Jacob's. Too bad I can't do anything about two things most irritating me in ME2.  Other one is, not being able to crush Joker's Vrolik skull... "I won't loose another Normandy, my ***!" Posted Image

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Finis Valorum wrote...

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Wasn't that Steve sitting in the
background at a computer when she was speaking both before and after
Shepard enters the conference room or whatever it is?  It sure looked
like him.


If it was a generic Alliance soldier all that illustrates is how truly generic they've kept the only m/m option.


I hate to be one of *those* people, but I agree.  I played the demo three more times tonight and he really did look like one of those generic guys in the background of the opening scene.  As long as the character itself is fleshed out and well written, I suppose a quickly made character creator guy wont be so bad.  I thought it was a bit weird that we only get to see the back of his head and then a quick 2 second glance at his face.  Maybe they are trying not to give away how he looks.

Ryzaki wrote...

Eh. Microsoft published JE as I recall. Can't blame them.

And Fable.


When the thing about f/f being OK in Mass Effect1 but not s/s, I too thought it might have something to do with MS.  Not because they are homophobes or anything but because ME was marketed to the Gears of Bore/Halo crowd from the beginning, and as XBOX LIVE can attest to, they don't like no homos playing their games. 

BioWare fans may have seen it as an RPG with TPS elements but most people, myself included (I had never played a BW game before), thought of it as another overhyped MS Game Studios published shooter.  I hated Gears which is why I ignored ME when it came out.  I only bought it when Play-Asia had it on special for $20, thank The Maker I did.

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Yvonne Strahovski?

She is pretty darn amazing. Plus, Aussie representin'!

She's pretty good, but no Claudia Black.  Is she from Melbourne by any chance?  The way she says certain words (only for instance, or "owonly" :D) makes me think she is.

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erilben wrote...

On another forum, Chris L'Etoile blamed it on Walmart. Apparently they were afraid ME2 would get pulled off Walmart's shelves, so they cut back on the same romance options. Dragon Age  gets away with it because no one calls attention to it like Fox News did to ME1.

Do you have link to that post? Wanna see it myself

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Game_Fan_85 wrote...

Finis Valorum wrote...


If it was a generic Alliance soldier all that illustrates is how truly generic they've kept the only m/m option.


I hate to be one of *those* people, but I agree.  I played the demo three more times tonight and he really did look like one of those generic guys in the background of the opening scene.  As long as the character itself is fleshed out and well written, I suppose a quickly made character creator guy wont be so bad...


I've been thinking about Cortez's appearance, and why he's so "generic" looking. There's so little representation of gays in any mainstream media, and one of the many complaints regarding the ones that are present is that all too often they're portrayed as 'sissy men' or vain and shallow. Quite often, the arguement against these characters is 'why can't it be a normal guy who just so happens to be gay?' It's possible that BW has carefully taken this into consideration, and is trying to reflect that in his outward appearance.

It's also possible that they just hit a randomize button in the CC until "eh, good enough." Until proven wrong though, I like to believe it is the former, not the latter, and look forward to a well-written, fleshed out Cortez.