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[ElitePinecone]

Abispa wrote...

I REALLY hope that the game imports our Shepards better than entering the code on the CC screen.

As far as I know it imports the data, not the face code.

Someone asked Manveer Heir - so you should be fine.

It takes the actual data file, it doesn't try to reassemble the face in the ME3 engine. 

(People were asking about modded faces with purple eyes and stuff)

[Game_Fan_85]

ElitePinecone wrote...

I don't know how they deal with the negativity. It'd drive me insane that people with no idea what they're talking about, and no experience in game design, are saying those sort of things about something I worked on for two years. 

I can almost see why the vast majority of the DA2 team don't go near the forums anymore.

Some fans are ridiciulously full of entitlement. 

Could not agree more.  These children must think games pop out of thin air, they are too stupid/ignorant to realise that it takes hundreds of thousands of hours of people pouring their heart and soul into a product.  I'm sure none of them look the ridiculously long list of credits in games these days.

Ricvenart wrote...

*Sigh*

I'm not surpised to see
the outburst of this, after that news. Not like the forums aren't full
of hate soley over textures, maybe it's just cause I grew up with 8 bit
graphics I think it looks great.

^This.

I hate this era of graphics ****s (oops, the overly sensitive P.C BioWare board will not let me use that word, maybe I should have said graphic "word with the same meaning as Lady of the Night"?) and PC elitists thinking they are better.  For an Unreal3 game I thought it looked great.  I'd like to know when super high texture quality became more important than asthetic design.  I could never understand people gushing over Gears' graphics because they were ugly and boring to me, no matter how high the texture quality was.

As long as the design is as good as the last 2 games, I'll be happy.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 16 février 2012 - 07:58 .

[Game_Fan_85]

Two points I forgot to add, my only disappointment from the demo is that it indicates that he game does not start with Shepard's trial over the Arrival incident and that it was cut. That seems like a big damn cut to me.

I have played the demo 8 times now and I cannot hear any difference in Mordin's VA. Are the people in this thread that have mentioned it playing on PC or 360?

[Vapaa]

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

The only thing I will say on the console front is that I am sick of the 360 limiting the PS3.  The PS3 is capable of so much more but gets lumbered by the 360, small DVDs and no standard HDD being 2 of the biggest problems.

How the 360 is limiting the PS3 when ME games have ALWAYS been on 360 ?

[devSin]

He is different. They didn't even sign the old VA, so it's not like you got his real voice and the other two platforms didn't. (I hear it's actually Mark Meer, believe it or not, but I don't know if that's true).

The trial had all the earmarks of an epic expository black hole. I think the pacing for the intro could have been different (maybe just the verdict or some discussion/congratulations of the verdict and then you being escorted back to detention and then continuing to what's in the game now), but the trial I think would have just sunk the beginning. ME2 already had a horrible opening, and I truthfully prefer the demo, without question.

Consequences of your actions can (and hopefully will) be felt further into the game; you don't need some overlong sequence at the very start that drags on about everything you've already done.

[Ricvenart]

If you're going to accuse the 360 of the same thing as those PC gamers accuse consoles of, what's the difference?

They we're kind enough to bring the PS3 and PC gamers 2 and 3, not much they can do about ME1 for PS3 when Microsoft published it and now those want to cut the 360 out of the picture because it's holding them back? And the other wants both other parties out of the picture.

I do agree for pacing purposes it probally is best left out, as much as I'd like so see Shep land on earth in a Cerberus ship deserving a heroes welcome for at least the collectors but being charged it would just end up dragging, at best it'd be a 30min interactive cutscene. More Kaidan reunion would have been nice but that can wait till later. and it's seems an underplayed intro for Vega but again jugding by the intro/advert we'll probally get another.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 16 février 2012 - 06:54 .

[ElitePinecone]

Let's not turn this into a console war, it's... very off-topic.

Looking at what Isaac was dealing with in the Kaidan thread, I'm not looking forward to the forums in a couple of weeks.

The thought of having to make all of the arguments we've been making about this topic for the last two years, with new people who are full of "you broke my versimillitude!" rage... it's not fun.

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

ElitePinecone wrote..

The thought of having to make all of the arguments we've been making about this topic for the last two years, with new people who are full of "you broke my versimillitude!" rage... it's not fun.

Eh, if Steve really is the lone m/m option, I don't see a lot of whining. He's a rather minor character, and there's very little to him outside the romance arc. He's also not a squadmate so people can't whine about him stealing a position from the ME2 cast.

Modifié par Red by Full Metal Jacket, 16 février 2012 - 07:03 .

[devSin]

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

Eh, if Steve really is the lone m/m option, I don't see a lot of whining. He's a rather minor character, and there's very little to him outside the romance arc. He's also not a squadmate so people can't whine about him stealing a position from the ME2 cast.

But it's not like you can leave him behind, can you? And the shuttle is a tiny space to have to share with one of those people. ;-)

Honestly, there are those who will whine if you wake up in the morning. I hardly see the purpose in arguing with them.

Modifié par devSin, 16 février 2012 - 07:08 .

[ElitePinecone]

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote..

The thought of having to make all of the arguments we've been making about this topic for the last two years, with new people who are full of "you broke my versimillitude!" rage... it's not fun.

Eh, if Steve really is the lone m/m option, I don't see a lot of whining. He's a rather minor character, and there's very little to him outside the romance arc. He's also not a squadmate so people can't whine about him stealing a position from the ME2 cast.

Check a few pages back. Isaac had interesting, unconfirmed news. 

[Gnomejello]

 Just wanted to drop in and leave a thank-you note for Bioware for FINALLY adding a male homoshep option.

 I remember writing a heartfelt message to Bioware when ME2 came out and I discovered that they left out that option, and how in the light of DA:O this felt like a step in reverse.  They let me down last time, but this time, I think they will be able to make up for it.

I am currently playing a romance-free playthrough so I can be all ready for a consistently gay playthrough of ME3.  Though I will probably play my (now) bisexual engineer character first, and will probably have to face the consequences of the wrathful duo of Liara and Tali.  

But, yeah.  Can't wait.  

[Augoeides]

If and when the riots start I'm bailing out of the forums.It's not worth the effort; let them rage it all out and achieve nothing other than displaying how shallow their engagement with the game must be in order for it to be broken so quickly and easily by something relatively minor.

The root of the argument that character has been altered for fans is distinctly flawed when used in regards to immersion being broken because, if one is actually immersed in the game and viewing things solely from Shepard's perspective then one must accept a degree of the unknown in regards to a character; Shepard simply does not know everything about 'x' therefore in a roleplaying/immersion sense it is simply new information being revealed about a character through interaction as it has occurred previously.

However, if the source of the complaint is a meta-game observation or analysis, based on information and contexts outside of Shepard's knowledge (ie. we view as the omniscient player who views the world of Mass Effect through their particular lens) then the argument for immersion being broken cannot be made because immersion was never achieved precisely because the game was being played in the Meta.

A player's construction is wholly limited within the game by the game, and anything outside of what the game specifies is possible but not within the game. By this token, if someone says that 'character a cannot be romanced by the same sex because they're straight, immersion broken' then the problem is not that immersion was broken it's that they were so immersed and because of that, post-insertion of self into fantasy-verse, they misjudged or did not recognize the unknown factors and were proved wrong by the game, which is the game's prerogative because it is independent of player or player character assertions. The fact one can be proved wrong in one's assertions about characters from an in-game perspective is total fulfillment of the immersion. Obviously the other option is that the player took on an Omniscient role and therefore was meta-gaming and no argument can be made for their immersion being broken because the meta-game invalidates immersion.

Obviously there is some crossover in cases of players engineering certain situations with meta knowledge but doing so within a roleplay perspective ie. Wanting to kill Grunt so sending him as the escort but not loyal being justified by Shepard reasoning the crew needs a strong and hardy defender, but ends up overestimating Grunt leading to his death but the crew's survival.

I hope that all made sense.

Modifié par Augoeides, 16 février 2012 - 07:23 .

[Ricvenart]

All I was asking is how was it different to what to the point he was making by quoting me and you.
The quote that was used was on topic regarding people out for blood after the demo and reacting to the news elsewhere.
Hardly my fault if s/s related things I discuss go ignored or get used out of context to make platform comparisons, even when I didn't.

Think I may bail anyway, any good news is marred here, can you set feeds from groups to email?

Modifié par Ricvenart, 16 février 2012 - 07:23 .

[Game_Fan_85]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Let's not turn this into a console war, it's... very off-topic.

Sorry, I should have known my comments would have be taken that way, which was not the intent at all.  Deleted now.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 16 février 2012 - 08:13 .

[Game_Fan_85]

devSin wrote...

He is different. They didn't even sign the old VA, so it's not like you got his real voice and the other two platforms didn't. (I hear it's actually Mark Meer, believe it or not, but I don't know if that's true).
.

Some thread said that the Mark Meer Mordin was made as a fill in so they could have the demo at Games Con.  I thought it could be a case of one version of the demo being more up to date than another, hence Mark Meer in the PC version and not 360.  The same thread mentioned Mordin sounding very different and I just don't hear it which is why I thought of the above.

[ElitePinecone]

Augoeides wrote...
big snip

I hope that all made sense.

For what it's worth, I agree - and you nailed the argument about meta-gaming and in-universe perspectives being different. 

I just don't think 'being sensible' is high on the list of those people who would rage (and will rage) if what we think is true, is true. 

[alexdrake]

At the risk of annoying people with my fixation...any positive news confirmation on the Vega front? I'm warning you this question will continue to pop up till I can do a victory dance, Casey Hudson personally says you're out of luck, or March 6.

[ElitePinecone]

alexdrake wrote...

At the risk of annoying people with my fixation...any positive news confirmation on the Vega front? I'm warning you this question will continue to pop up till I can do a victory dance, Casey Hudson personally says you're out of luck, or March 6.

In my opinion it's not looking likely, but until we know for sure I'd say hang in there.

The unconfirmed information Isaac heard about earlier today didn't mention Vega in the s/s category, which I'd personally put as a very bad sign. 

Plus, his dialogue in the beta leak didn't have any overtly m/m lines but did have some for m/f for Shepard, and had Vega constantly complimenting female squaddies on their appearance. 

[alexdrake]

@ElitePine, don't worry I'll keep holdin' out for my hero, after all I know he's really smooth, super fast, crazy strong and definately fresh from the fight to paraphrase an 80s hit.

[SolidBeast]

Anyone on here going to try out MP on PC tomorrow? I was thinking of giving it a go. Never played any co-op online and I don't have a mic... Is that going to be much of a problem?

[ElitePinecone]

SolidBeast wrote...

Anyone on here going to try out MP on PC tomorrow? I was thinking of giving it a go. Never played any co-op online and I don't have a mic... Is that going to be much of a problem?

I've played a fair bit of MP on Xbox and I've only seen one person use a mic - generally it's enough to just play normally and assume the people you're playing with are competent enough to know broadly what to do. The maps are small enough that you can see where everybody is, and there's no shortage of enemies or objectives to do. 

I did only play on the bronze difficulty though, and it's quite likely that to survive the silver and gold challenges you'd need to coordinate a lot more as a team. 

(For Atlases and the like, running away screaming in terror and blindly shooting was enough to signal your teammates that something difficult was ahead. Generally working as a team seems obvious in that case.)

[SolidBeast]

ElitePinecone wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Anyone on here going to try out MP on PC tomorrow? I was thinking of giving it a go. Never played any co-op online and I don't have a mic... Is that going to be much of a problem?

I've played a fair bit of MP on Xbox and I've only seen one person use a mic

Huh. From all the talk about MP on these forums, I got the impression that it was opposite. Don't really wanna ruin the game by being the weird mute person you can't actually cooperate with.

[Maugrim]

SolidBeast wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Anyone on here going to try out MP on PC tomorrow? I was thinking of giving it a go. Never played any co-op online and I don't have a mic... Is that going to be much of a problem?

I've played a fair bit of MP on Xbox and I've only seen one person use a mic

Huh. From all the talk about MP on these forums, I got the impression that it was opposite. Don't really wanna ruin the game by being the weird mute person you can't actually cooperate with.

Hey feel free to add me on Origin (names the same) as well as joining my MP group to find some PC playing  friends.  I have a mic and you can often here me going "But I didn't mean to charge into a phantom, atlas and turret nest!"  You'll want to read the "So Your Friend is a Vanguard" blog

[shepskisaac]

ElitePinecone wrote...

The unconfirmed information Isaac heard about earlier today didn't mention Vega in the s/s category, which I'd personally put as a very bad sign.

But the question included and ended at "did they retcon any of the previous characters?" (ignore the retcon part). So he responded about Ash & Kaidan. Vega's not a previous character. And later, he talked romance scenes and didn't even mention Cortez or Liara. So I wouldn't take lack of Vega mention as a confirmation/indication that he's most likely no s/s.

[Knightly_BW]

IsaacShep wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

The unconfirmed information Isaac heard about earlier today didn't mention Vega in the s/s category, which I'd personally put as a very bad sign.

But the question included and ended at "did they retcon any of the previous characters?" (ignore the retcon part). So he responded about Ash & Kaidan. Vega's not a previous character. And later, he talked romance scenes and didn't even mention Cortez or Liara. So I wouldn't take lack of Vega mention as a confirmation/indication that he's most likely no s/s.

I spoiled myself with romance leaks today. If they didn't make serious changes to characters S/S Vega is very very unlikely. Still doesn't certain if he is romancable after all.