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[rolson00]

Polliot wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...


Knock it off will you. If you don't approve of SS Romance, then simply exit the thread. Priestly posted clearly and it was quoted in the OP of this thread.

Then can I create a thread against S/S that won't get locked?

read this chris claerly says if you do not agree with s/s stay out of where they are discussing it find or create a thread against it if you wish

[jlb524]

Siansonea II wrote...

This makes me wonder, how cheesy/sweet is too cheesy/sweet when it comes to s/s romance storylines in the game? I personally want more "heartfelt" interaction in the romance scenes in general. ManShep especially seems like a robot sometimes. Let's see some acting! 

I agree...but I'm a hopeless romantic and all of that.  They should add a 'cheese' response option to the wheel during love scenes, color coded yellowish orange or something.

[Rinji the Bearded]

Siansonea II wrote...

This makes me wonder, how cheesy/sweet is too cheesy/sweet when it comes to s/s romance storylines in the game? I personally want more "heartfelt" interaction in the romance scenes in general. ManShep especially seems like a robot sometimes. Let's see some acting! 

He was a bit better with emoting in ME2, and then especially awesome in LotSB.  I know Mark Meer is capable of emoting, so I'm thinking it was a directoral issue more than anything.  Can't wait to hear him fully improved in ME3.

[Maugrim]

jlb524 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

This makes me wonder, how cheesy/sweet is too cheesy/sweet when it comes to s/s romance storylines in the game? I personally want more "heartfelt" interaction in the romance scenes in general. ManShep especially seems like a robot sometimes. Let's see some acting! 

I agree...but I'm a hopeless romantic and all of that.  They should add a 'cheese' response option to the wheel during love scenes, color coded yellowish orange or something.

Would it then be a cheese wheel?

Being a bit silly today, but I'm in a good mood atm

[Siansonea]

+1 for Cheese Wheel.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 13 juin 2011 - 08:41 .

[jlb524]

Abispa wrote...
Do my fellow ME fans want such characters to come with an explanation for their "mysterious" openness to homosexual relationships, or do we just accept the fact that Bioware suddenly had a change of heart on the third game just go with it (IF we want to)?

Maybe the Quarians have a social taboo against same gender romances, so Tali never was able to work up the nerve to pursue a same sex relationship with female Shepard until now? Or perhaps Kaidan had a religious upbringing and has always avoided the "forbidden" relationships until he met male Shepard?

Perhaps a small thing, but I don't think they need to make a big deal out of it, as in, bringing it up in every conversation with the character. 

To be honest, with most LIs, you don't even know what their orientation is or could possibly be unless you do the o/s romance...as you play FemShep, for example, you wouldn't know that Tali is interested in men.  Most of these sexuality arguements are therefore from a meta-knowledge perspective and thus there wouldn't need to be an in-universe explanation for why Tali is now into FemShep.   If you need an out of universe/game design explanation...well, then I guess it's as simple as BW wanted to open them up for s/s romance, possibly due to popularity with the fans or something.

makenzieshepard wrote...

Would it then be a cheese wheel?

Being a bit silly today, but I'm in a good mood atm

The Cheese Wheel of Loooooooooove!

Modifié par jlb524, 13 juin 2011 - 08:42 .

[rolson00]

jlb524 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

This makes me wonder, how cheesy/sweet is too cheesy/sweet when it comes to s/s romance storylines in the game? I personally want more "heartfelt" interaction in the romance scenes in general. ManShep especially seems like a robot sometimes. Let's see some acting! 

I agree...but I'm a hopeless romantic and all of that.  They should add a 'cheese' response option to the wheel during love scenes, color coded yellowish orange or something.

how about the line "your father is a theaf, he stole all of the stars and put them in your eyes"(think thats how it goes? but i think for gay ash it should be a scene where shepard hugs her to comfort her (as ash loves shep already up to you in what way) and has a choice between a best friends hug or a lovers type of hug

Modifié par rolson00, 13 juin 2011 - 08:43 .

[Blacklash93]

A quick suggestion.

If a thread against S/S content does get created, let's just ignore it. We're no better than them if we derail their thread into petty bickering. I'm sure they'll do a fine job making fools of themselves without us.

[shepskisaac]

RinjiRenee wrote...

Here because they closed down the M!Shep/Kaidan thread. AH WELL.

We'll just post here and in general Kaidan thread, the fangorls over there are very friendly and welcoming

Reposting MaleShep/Kaidan support banners if anyone wished to use!

[Siansonea]

Abispa wrote...

I hope the trolls don't get your forum shut down. I was worried about my own take on the subject being shut down, but it hasn't, though I don't get posts anymore.

One thing I do wonder about is how Bioware will handle bisexuality in previous established LI. There was dialog with both Tali and Kaidan that seemed to indicate that the thought of a same sex relationship had crossed their minds (though the fact taht Tali is a whole other species should probably raise more eyebrows than her gender), but as we all know the option was never given to the player.

Do my fellow ME fans want such characters to come with an explanation for their "mysterious" openness to homosexual relationships, or do we just accept the fact that Bioware suddenly had a change of heart on the third game just go with it (IF we want to)?

Maybe the Quarians have a social taboo against same gender romances, so Tali never was able to work up the nerve to pursue a same sex relationship with female Shepard until now? Or perhaps Kaidan had a religious upbringing and has always avoided the "forbidden" relationships until he met male Shepard?

Regardless of how it's handled, I hope Bioware doesn't continue to cut short Shepard's relationships with his/her crew just because s/he isn't romancing them, and I do want at least one "Aveline-style" relationship option where you can pursue a relationship but s/he turns Shepard down and/or pursues someone else.

I definitely want more "friend zone" stuff for Shepard and all the other characters, that's for sure. I want that more than ANY romance stuff.

I will leave it up to the writers to create the background and story implementation if (and this is a very big if) existing characters are opened up as bisexual LIs. Everything we've heard so far makes me think it's going to be new characters, but I think the writers could pull of existing characters open to bisexual lovin'. I don't think every character being bisexual is either plausible or likely though, so anyone who has that worry is probably worrying needlessly. 

[bleetman]

So I'm assuming there's no info around about which characters are becoming available? I haven't exactly been paying attention lately.

[Rinji the Bearded]

The thread against s/s would be kind of useless as the s/s options WILL be available, it's not like their opinions will suddenly reverse this decision. It's spam.

[shepskisaac]

bleetman wrote...

So I'm assuming there's no info around about which characters are becoming available? I haven't exactly been paying attention lately.

Unfortunately no new info :/ Maybe there will be some soon, but don't get hopes yo

[FKA_Servo]

Blacklash93 wrote...

A quick suggestion.

If a thread against S/S content does get created, let's just ignore it. We're no better than them if we derail their thread into petty bickering. I'm sure they'll do a fine job making fools of themselves without us.

In the past, it's obviously been difficult for some (myself included) to resist  engaging the particularly hateful and negative posters who derailed otherwise productive discussion in our threads. However, I have no interest in seeking them out. If they want to post a thread about how much they disapprove, I think they can go nuts. I can promise that I won't be posting in it.

Besides - it's in there. The chances of it not making it are vanishingly small.

Modifié par TommyServo, 13 juin 2011 - 08:51 .

[Siansonea]

Blacklash93 wrote...

A quick suggestion.

If a thread against S/S content does get created, let's just ignore it. We're no better than them if we derail their thread into petty bickering. I'm sure they'll do a fine job making fools of themselves without us.

I agree. They don't need our help. They will show BioWare exactly what kind of people they are with their actions, and changing their minds isn't likely.

[Abispa]

I think that Hale does OVERDO the emoting at times, and that Meer's VA is better for the scenes where Shepard is "all business."

One scene in particular is when Aria says her one rule is "Don't **** with Aria!" and Shepard's tough remark is that s/he has a similar rule. Hale made the remark sound the the prelude to a verbal beat-down that never came, making her seem weak when the Batarian threatened to throw her out the airlock. When Meer said it, it had an air of "Yeah, whatever, Aria," and it made the Batarian's threat sound like wasted gas.

And I'm still convinced that Hale's "I'm in heat" voice was the reason Jacob went on to be one of the most put despised members of Shepard's squad.

Still, with so many personal scenes in ME2, Meer's just-business Shepard voice did suffer while Hale was allowed to shine. And the facial animations of male Shepard just makes him look CREEPY in close ups with "sensitive" lines. *shudder*

Part of me worries about the male gay Shepard is going to fair if Bioware doesn't write the scenes to fit Meer's Shepard and the animation people don't fix male Shepard's close-up creepiness.

[Ryzaki]

Me neither. Posting in their thread just gives them reason to come in here. No thank you.

[catabuca]

IsaacShep wrote...

catabuca wrote...

anyway, despite being happy regardless of who is the bi LI for manshep, i'll state, yet again, for the record that i'd like it to be kaidan. i made a rather lengthy post in the old fftl thread about how i would love to see the character development work for such an option, and i won't repeat it all here (i've turned over a new leaf regarding brevity), but suffice to say i'd be very happy to see that happen.

Could you link me to that post? Would love to read it

it took some finding, but here you go: my vision for kaidan and shep.

[Siansonea]

IsaacShep wrote...

bleetman wrote...

So I'm assuming there's no info around about which characters are becoming available? I haven't exactly been paying attention lately.

Unfortunately no new info :/ Maybe there will be some soon, but don't get hopes yo

Yep, nuttin' yet. It's early yet though, the game doesn't come out until March. Maybe they're looking into this very thread, looking for inspiration...

[KawaiiKatie]

Blacklash93 wrote...

A quick suggestion.

If a thread against S/S content does get created, let's just ignore it. We're no better than them if we derail their thread into petty bickering. I'm sure they'll do a fine job making fools of themselves without us.

I agree with this comment! Let's just stay out of any anti-S/S thread and hope that they do the same and stay out of our pro-S/S thread. I mean, I'm not a fan of Miranda, so I simply stay out of her fan-thread. It's not that hard! Why go and ruin someone else's party?

Back on the topic... I really, really hope that gay manShep gets some sort of line to indicate that he likes men, if only because my gayShep has been silent about his sexual preference since ME1. I think that, at most, what I'll get James Vega or Kaidan saying, "Does it bother you that I like men?" and Shepard can reply, "No, it doesn't bother me." but at least that'll be something. I just really need manShep and his lover, no matter who it turns out to be, to recognize and acknowlege that they are in a same-sex relationship. I don't care how they do it, but if manShep's interactions with his gay lover are completely gender-neutral the entire time, I will be very disappointed.

[Siansonea]

Nyoka wrote...

Just wanted to say that I think it's sad that we won't have scenes like that one in the citadel view in ME1, which was charming and funny, because of this "player initiated romance" business, just because some people are so scared of I don't know what.

@Blacklash93 I won't waste one second in an anti choice thread. And that's coming from a person who wastes a lot of time on these boards

Well, we don't know for sure that we won't. I liked that scene too, by the way. I think BioWare has a lot more latitude this time around. They don't have to worry about the sales of a subsequent game, they can take a few more risks with this last installment. They can really do anything they want. We've all bought into the story and universe twice now, and their gameplay telemetry clearly shows what we're doing with their game. I don't think they have to fear for the repurcussions of any risky moves they make in ME3, because they know we're going to buy the game regardless. I know I am, at least. I hope they do take risks. Lots of risks! Story-wise, I mean, I don't give a hoot about combat.

[Maugrim]

Siansonea II wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

bleetman wrote...

So I'm assuming there's no info around about which characters are becoming available? I haven't exactly been paying attention lately.

Unfortunately no new info :/ Maybe there will be some soon, but don't get hopes yo

Yep, nuttin' yet. It's early yet though, the game doesn't come out until March. Maybe they're looking into this very thread, looking for inspiration...

Maybe...


ALL BI!!

Not for myself, but I want all my friends to be happy.

[NICKjnp]

Since this is a new thread then I'll restate my opinion that I think that it is great that they are finally allowing m/m romances (since f/f romances have already been in the last two games). That said I also hope that new characters are the s/s romance options...I don't want the romancable characters from previous games to be rewritten.

[shepskisaac]

catabuca wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

catabuca wrote...

anyway, despite being happy regardless of who is the bi LI for manshep, i'll state, yet again, for the record that i'd like it to be kaidan. i made a rather lengthy post in the old fftl thread about how i would love to see the character development work for such an option, and i won't repeat it all here (i've turned over a new leaf regarding brevity), but suffice to say i'd be very happy to see that happen.

Could you link me to that post? Would love to read it

it took some finding, but here you go: my vision for kaidan and shep.

Thanks catabuca!  *reads*