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ElitePinecone

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FoxHound109 wrote...
Devs have been saying a lot of opposites since day one. According to those opposites, we shouldn't even be discussing a multiplayer mode in the first place. But here we are. 


Untrue - refusing to confirm or deny rumours isn't the same as ruling something out. 

From the FAQ on the masseffect.com website:

[*]You can reach the highest levels of success in the single player experience alone, but Galaxy at War gives you alternative ways to get there.[*]It's about choice, and allowing players to find their own ways to stay immersed in the Mass Effect universe.[*]We aren't going into any specifics on numbers right now.

Every single time somone's asked whether the perfect ending is possible without touching multiplayer, Bioware devs have said yes. 

This is on all their marketing, it's been on every multiplayer related video, it's the *number one* thing Bioware knows fans would complain about.

They won't do it. They know what the reaction would be. 

Which means either random inside information person misinterpreted their source, or they're making stuff up. 

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Abispa wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Considering BW didn't make Shepard himself gay/bisexual until now I'm pretty sure if Vega's bi it'll probably be a Sky like thing where you have to jump through several hoops to get it and the average player doesn't even realize its there.


Male Shepard MUST perform the sex change quest. You get default female Shepard's body, true, but at least you can keep Meer's VA.


LOL I actually wouldn't mind Meer's voice coming out of FemShep's body.

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Abispa wrote...

Male Shepard MUST perform the sex change quest.

Is it going to be an upgrade for the sick bay, like the scar-o-matic?

Modifié par devSin, 17 février 2012 - 03:19 .


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ElitePinecone wrote...

Which means either random inside information person misinterpreted their source, or they're making stuff up. 


"What I admire most about the internet is that it is a record of perfect clarity and accuracy."

-- Matthew Flinders, Captain of the Investigator.

Modifié par Abispa, 17 février 2012 - 03:00 .


#17555
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Well, technically, if you DON'T play MP, it will be impossible to complete 100% of the game. That doesn't mean that you need it to get "the best ending."

Also, can I just use the mic to send commands to the squad? Or do I NEED the Kinnects thingee?

Modifié par Abispa, 17 février 2012 - 03:08 .


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There was a long-winded explanation involving numbers and some main story quests that I won't spoil.

The person thought it was impossible to get beyond 50% galactic readiness in the campaign, without playing multiplayer and/or the iOS games.

I consider this nonsense, because war assets can be acquired through multiplayer or N7 quests. Not to mention the search and rescue side quests, main story sidequests, species loyalty...

Edit: What I'm saying is, it just struck me as exactly the sort of thing you'd say if you wanted to scare, annoy or enrage the sort of obsessive Mass Effect internet fans that lurk all over the internet. 

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 17 février 2012 - 03:27 .


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LOL I actually wouldn't mind Meer's voice coming out of FemShep's body.

Considering Hale's performance in ME3 neither would I.

Almost every line she said in the demo was just bleh...

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Edit: What I'm saying is, it just struck me as exactly the sort of thing you'd say if you wanted to scare, annoy or enrage the sort of obsessive Mass Effect internet fans that lurk all over the internet.

So you're suggesting that you probably got trolled?

Have fun with Steve, guys. :P

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ElitePinecone wrote...

There was a long-winded explanation involving numbers and some main story quests that I won't spoil.

The person thought it was impossible to get beyond 50% galactic readiness in the campaign, without playing multiplayer and/or the iOS games.

I consider this nonsense, because war assets can be acquired through multiplayer or N7 quests. Not to mention the search and rescue side quests, main story sidequests, species loyalty...

Edit: What I'm saying is, it just struck me as exactly the sort of thing you'd say if you wanted to scare, annoy or enrage the sort of obsessive Mass Effect internet fans that lurk all over the internet. 

Maybe you just need 50% for the best ending ?
In ME2 you could survive the suicide mission with less than a complete and totally loyal squad.
It seems sensible that the devs would leave some room regarding the galactic readiness level since if you could reach 100% in the game alone there would be little reason to play multiplayer or buy DLC (post game DLC like we got for ME2 seems rather unlikely for the same reason that DA2 did not have a post ending DLC.)

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If we can only achieve 50% readiness in the singleplayer then I think all fans have the right to rage about it as much as they want since if that happens it'd mean that they flat out lied to us over and over to just calm us down.

I mean, I like what I've seen/played of multiplayer so far, but I really don't think I'll want to pause my playthrough mid way so that I play 100 matches in multiplayer to get a perfect ending. Agh, I just hope that they either changed that or that the information is false.

If you JUST need 50% to get the best ending, then I don't mind.

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I sadly can see Bioware doing this as a way to cut down on used sales. You need to buy the game new to get the online pass, right?

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I highly doubt this is true. Which calls into question the info about the VS being available for s/s. I would much rather have only Steve for m/m if it meant the other thing was false.

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devSin wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Edit: What I'm saying is, it just struck me as exactly the sort of thing you'd say if you wanted to scare, annoy or enrage the sort of obsessive Mass Effect internet fans that lurk all over the internet.

So you're suggesting that you probably got trolled?

Have fun with Steve, guys. :P


Well, that's the thing though - they had a "genuine" photo of Allers early in development, they knew [spoiler squadmate]'s name before it was revealed in the demo files, and they posted a photo of femShep in the character creator before anyone had access to it. 

But nothing about the galaxy of war system that they posted makes any sense, and if it did make sense, people would rage at BW with the fury of a thousand suns. 

I don't think they're in the habit of starting fan crusades, and what this person posted contradicts everything we've heard from the devs. 

That's why I'm thinking it's a misinterpretation, or they're mixing trolling with truth. 

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Bear in mind that multiplayer was being developed in Québec, while the rest of the game was being made in Edmonton. It could have been something bandied about earlier in development, and was talked about, but things changed later on.

Or, they REALLY want to push multiplayer, and have decided to force the issue with single player fans. I would think this is a bad idea.

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Ok lets assume that you can only get 50% galactic readiness without MP?

Who said you need more than that to get the best endings? Jesus H. Fracking Christ on a motorized pogo stick. How about we all wait instead of jumping to conclusions. *looks at thread title* It's not even the right thread! *headdesk*

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 17 février 2012 - 05:20 .


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ElitePinecone

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makenzieshepard wrote...
on a motorized pogo stick.


Indeed.

The point of that off-topic discussion is that if this random forum person was wrong or trolling about the GaW system, I'm less willing to accept their other statements about ME3.

Statements that include whether some characters are available to both genders. 

Ultimately I think we need better sources. 

Someone catch a weather balloon?

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Ok lets assume that you can only get 50% galactic readiness without MP?

Who said you need more than that to get the best endings? Jesus H. Fracking Christ on a motorized pogo stick. How about we all wait instead of jumping to conclusions. *looks at thread title* It's not even the right thread! *headdesk*


You really should finish every post with an Ululation

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ElitePinecone wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...
on a motorized pogo stick.


Indeed.

The point of that off-topic discussion is that if this random forum person was wrong or trolling about the GaW system, I'm less willing to accept their other statements about ME3.

Statements that include whether some characters are available to both genders. 

Ultimately I think we need better sources. 

Someone catch a weather balloon?


True enough though as I understand it the person talked about max readiness level possible without MP not what endings you could get without it.  Though tbh only getting "50%" readiness and still achieving the best endings sounds like a low number.  But who know...my guess is there would be absolutely no appreciable margin for error without MP assistance.

Hmm maybe they could make them all-bi LI if you achieve 100%.  If that weather ballon comes anywhre near here I'll fight the bears off to get it if I have too...

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Probably they're not going to say anything about the romance, and you'll just have to wait until the 6th.

I have to try to struggle through a ME2 playthrough. I must have had nearly a dozen false starts over the past week; I just couldn't get into it. Luckily, I made it all the way to the SR2 this time. This is going to be the one, I can feel it!

Modifié par devSin, 17 février 2012 - 05:43 .


#17570
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Only thing I've heard is that multiplayer makes getting the best ending "easier".

#17571
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This talk about the MP business is scary but I can't see it being true. Especially as it would force 360 users to have to pay for gold (which is what, $90 in my country? Not that I would be stupid enough to buy it here). I had zero interest in the MP side of ME3 and hated that Mass Effect joined the ranks of forced online play but after just playing it for about 4 hours straight, I do admit it was quite fun.

Are EA servers international and not bound by live account and/or origin of internet connection? I didn't think I would even be able to play the demo because my main account Japanese (there is no Jp demo despite it being released a week after the US in Japan) but I had people from all over the place playing, not just Australia. I may have to invest in a gold account soon.

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Can we please take the multiplayer talk somewhere else? We're here to fight for the love, not for a single player exclusive game.

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^ That's another thing, forced MP playing would require purchasing a Gold account.

It's just not true. Read the dev responses and multiplayer FAQs over the past few months.

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the blood broker back

so is there any new detail on who homosexual in this game

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Sorry the bylaws of he FTL thread don't allow us to tell anyone named blood broker who it is even though we know! Who would've ever thought that elcor had 3 giant....but I've said too much!

Modifié par makenzieshepard, 17 février 2012 - 07:25 .