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[ThePuppetWithNoStrings]

Abispa wrote...

Maybe... just maybe... Bioware changed their minds... about... "no Krogan Love"?

I sincerely hope not. 

[Ricvenart]

Can you really blame bioware for the player letting 4(5?) male romances for femShep die and being left with no men to romance?

Besides shouldn't this thread be rejoicing over the confirmed new s/s romances including one m/m period making the first appearance (hardly a massive unbalance in the opposite way, series fshep/male - 4 manShep/male - 1).

So much pointless bickering in this thread, there has been no news. People holding themselves above others and just trashing others skeptism just for the sake of it.

The SA thread is mostly more civil then here, people seem surpisingly happier over the rumors there and respond to people in the entireity. Not just attacking them for a small part and unable to attempt to reach an understanding or apology.

[ElitePinecone]

Abispa wrote...

It is possible that Vega's romance is part of a separate script. He is
heavily promoted for this game, after all, and I'm sure EA and Bioware
are continually going over his character to tweak it so he's "just
right." I'm not saying they'll be successful, but I do think part of
their strategy includes continually rewriting him up until the last
minute.

Here's hoping for an epic friendship and/or romance with either Shepard.

I don't think that's how the development process works, the .tlk files have position IDs and stuff coded in them so the game knows which text goes where.

They left in Zaeed and Kasumi's old development notes in the ME2 file (and they're even in the November ME3 beta, weirdly). There'd be no reason to take out Vega's sections *just* for marketing reasons or because it's doing a lot of rewriting. 

The version in the .tlk file is, essentially, the 'current up to date build' for whatever game it's in. Any rewrites or drafted sections would be on the writer's computer, not in the .tlk file. 

It's a bit much to hope that Vega has his own separate script - I just don't think that's even in the realm of possibility. 

Though certainly, it could have changed from when SAFG played through. Mac Walters and the newest version of the beta do indicate that maybe a romance is possible. 

[Game_Fan_85]

ThePuppetWithNoStrings wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Maybe... just maybe... Bioware changed their minds... about... "no Krogan Love"?

I sincerely hope not. 

But Wrex is just so cute and cudley.

[The Railgun]

So, any idea if there's lesbian Tali in 3?

[Abispa]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Abispa wrote...

It is possible that Vega's romance is part of a separate script. He is
heavily promoted for this game, after all, and I'm sure EA and Bioware
are continually going over his character to tweak it so he's "just
right." I'm not saying they'll be successful, but I do think part of
their strategy includes continually rewriting him up until the last
minute.

Here's hoping for an epic friendship and/or romance with either Shepard.

I don't think that's how the development process works, the .tlk files have position IDs and stuff coded in them so the game knows which text goes where.

They left in Zaeed and Kasumi's old development notes in the ME2 file (and they're even in the November ME3 beta, weirdly). There'd be no reason to take out Vega's sections *just* for marketing reasons or because it's doing a lot of rewriting. 

The version in the .tlk file is, essentially, the 'current up to date build' for whatever game it's in. Any rewrites or drafted sections would be on the writer's computer, not in the .tlk file. 

It's a bit much to hope that Vega has his own separate script - I just don't think that's even in the realm of possibility. 

Though certainly, it could have changed from when SAFG played through. Mac Walters and the newest version of the beta do indicate that maybe a romance is possible. 

I was understanding that we didn't have the NEWEST files cracked yet, so my theory is that there was more recent Vega tinkering going on since the leak of the older scripts. Or maybe I'm just confused terribly. Look at the last dozen or so pages, can you blame me?

[Abispa]

The Railgun wrote...

So, any idea if there's lesbian Tali in 3?

Doubtful, but theoretically possible. Sorry.

As Tali herself said, "Life isn't about what you deserve; it's about arguing and losing your mind lurking on BSN threads."

[The Railgun]

Abispa wrote...

Doubtful, but theoretically possible. Sorry.

As Tali herself said, "Life isn't about what you deserve; it's about arguing and losing your mind lurking on BSN threads."

Well, damn.  There goes my interest in this game.

[ElitePinecone]

At the very least, in terms of s/s, there's Steve, Sam, Ashley, Kaidan and Liara (and Allers?).

We don't even know if Vega, Tali and Garrus are even options.

The Prime Guide will provide answers. Save us, early publishing dates!

[Vapaa]

Abispa wrote...

Or maybe I'm just confused terribly. Look at the last dozen or so pages, can you blame me?

Yeah my brain hurts after reading straignt at the last 9 pages, all that stuff makes no sense whatsoever and the more I try to put the pieces together, the more I get confused
 

Modifié par Vapaä, 18 février 2012 - 07:03 .

[Knightly_BW]

Vapaä wrote...

Abispa wrote...

Or maybe I'm just confused terribly. Look at the last dozen or so pages, can you blame me?

Yeah my brain hurts after reading straignt at the last 9 pages, all that stuff makes no sense whatsoever and the more I try to put the pieces together, the more I get confused
 

I guess everyone is confused. One thing is certain, we will see what's what when game comes out.

I am more interested in finding Steve's VA's name atm. His voice on his last line on the demo sounds so familiar from another game...

After playing demo I think ME3 has more serious problems than romances...

[Ricvenart]

Not everyone is confused, past 100 pages or so all amount to the same thing, there is no more news/not enough to complete the picture of the game, so everyone is down everyone else's throats for it, whether it's posing a point of skeptism that does make total sense and it being attacked (like Solidbeast's) or just making comparison and puposefully bullying another while pretend they are so much better. That and picking on individuals yet being too cowardly or snobby to finish what they started in any from of resolution, while pretending that's a high class thing to do. And no I'm not saying I'm any different, I've said something although alot of it at least have been direct and attempted to make a resolution but we all myself include are getting frustrated/anxious about the news or the approaching release.
Past 9 pages most are about the o/s relationships anyway.

I'm fine with the demo, animations didn't bother me, graphics I thought looked great (not going to stare at the crab people running towards reapers), dialogue choices where ok but I'm hoping past choices may have more bearing on things, it makes sense it'd be more about coming to a close amoung other things I'm fine with or liked, the only things that bothered me was the jump between casual and normal although after MP I may actually play on a higher difficulty, the closeness of the camera to shepard but it's livable and Liara but that's hardly the demos fault.
MP on the other hand has completely blown me away and I'd likely be buying some gold time because of it, nothing like I expected I was so sure I wouldnt like it but to play as all those races in a galaxy wide effort does make sense, although I do still hope it remains an alternative route to making it to the end.
Even if Steve does end up the only option for romances I look forward to trying him out, even if I end up not liking his personality or looks I want to see it for the story there.
I'm sure the demo isn't the only area of choices considering other aspects we know having them but it also makes sense it'd be more actiony, this isn't a moment to slowly play detective, I think the changes they've made to the game really reflect the story well so far. I even get why Anderson seemed so different now, he's probably plain frustrated and nothing more.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 18 février 2012 - 09:35 .

[Meken]

Still clinging to my sliver of hope for s/s Garrus.

[bigbrowncows]

Have woken up to about 10 new pages and no time to read them...

Any further developments with the Kaidan/SomethingAwful developments?

[ElitePinecone]

bigbrowncows wrote...

Have woken up to about 10 new pages and no time to read them...

Any further developments with the Kaidan/SomethingAwful developments?

Still not confirmed, but the amount of other correct information they posted leads me to think it's true. 

[bigbrowncows]

ElitePinecone wrote...

bigbrowncows wrote...

Have woken up to about 10 new pages and no time to read them...

Any further developments with the Kaidan/SomethingAwful developments?

Still not confirmed, but the amount of other correct information they posted leads me to think it's true. 

I can always rely on you Elite.  I'm like a kid though, now it's look like we're getting Kaidan and Steve, I want Vega and Garrus and an Elcor and Hackett and every man in the galaxy.... 

[ElitePinecone]

bigbrowncows wrote...
an Elcor and Hackett

[LukaCrosszeria]

Ryzaki wrote...

Collider wrote...
They may have just scrapped his romance - which makes sense considering that there's barely any romance content in the script to begin with.

Or SA dude could be wrong or they could've added it in afterwards.

Wouldn't be the first thing he's wrong about. He sure in hell wasn't right about multiplayer being necessary for the best ending.

Actually, he was right: 
http://www.officialp...ending-will-be/ 

Casey Hudson alluded to this in another very recent interview, can't remember which one.

Edit: here is, interview from yesterday, CH talking about co-op:

"So, for example, you might be only able to put so much time into the single-player story, but you might do a lot of commuting, so you can play the iOS game and find ways to get better and better degrees of success in the single-player story by doing some of that other stuff."
http://www.computera...is-really-good/

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 18 février 2012 - 01:19 .

[LemonCurry?]

Hey, Hackett is kind of hot. Well, maybe it's the voice.

So what, it's looking like... SPOILERS (and still a bit OT sorry)

The amount of new romances aside, straight FemShep is left with only Kaidan and Garrus in the endgame, while straight MaleShep can waltz into the sunset with Ashley, Liara, Tali, Jack or Miranda? Oh and Diana/Kelly, flings or not. I haven't read all the spoilers, but does anything inevitably bad happen to ANY of DudeShep's straight romances at all? I kind of thought Vega romance was made to balance the fact that Thane and Jacob are basically scrapped. WTF. Some of us actually liked these characters, Bioware. I bet Liara gets a super-duper extra special romance plot and a HEA (never mind me, I'm bitter).
Not to mention two characters I would've been happy to romance with either gender, Vega and Joker, both turning Shep down and apparently ogling EDI's metal booty. Nice. Usually I like not everyone being Shepard-sexual, but leave us with something... I like Garrus even, but he's not going to be everyone's cup of tea.

I like playing the s/s romances but now it's like Bioware going "why aren't you a lesbian?"... If the VS really is available for both it's happy news, but at this point it feels like every time I hear a good thing about ME3 or something related, I hear two things that make me rage/facepam (hello insulting FemShep bishoujo figure). I wish I could go back to last summer's excited enthusiasm.

I'll try: the VS for both, that is awesome! Now I have to come up with a Shepard for Ashley and that ManShep for Kaidan I made but never got around to playing...

EDIT: The spoiler coloring won't work

Modifié par crayonsun, 18 février 2012 - 01:24 .

[brain_damage]

So, uh, the Something Awful forums guy said that Vega won't be a romance option at all. That's bad, really :/

[Finis Valorum]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Still not confirmed, but the amount of other correct information they posted leads me to think it's true.

I really, really hope they're dead wrong about some of those things though, but please let them be right about Kaidan.

Asperius wrote...
After playing demo I think ME3 has more serious problems than romances...

You can say that again besides the fact that I seem to be one of those lucky PC users to experience motion sickness, there's the awful button and Shep looking like an idiot in combat zones all the time (especially compared to her squad mates).
The dialogue options could stand to be a bit better, but I'm actually hopeful that for most of the real game they will be cause it wouldn't even feel like Mass Effect to me anymore if they weren't

Compared to that textures, animations and even romances all seem like petty concerns.

LukaCrosszeria wrote...
Casey Hudson alluded to this in another very recent interview, can't remember which one.

Edit: here is, interview from yesterday, CH talking about co-op:

"So, for example, you might be only able to put so much time into the single-player story, but you might do a lot of commuting, so you can play the iOS game and find ways to get better and better degrees of success in the single-player story by doing some of that other stuff."

I'm hopeful the devs haven't been outright lying to us about about MP being an optional component that just provides an optional/easier route to the best endings, otherwise, I hope, I can just mod the galactic readiness level in my savegames.
That said I can see them wanting to drive players to MP and therefore including exactly enough galactic readiness, if you do absolutely everything, in the SP game to achieve the best endings (which does make me more leery of the inevitable bugs, because even one quest in SP not properly awarding it's galactic readiness would mean bye bye best ending until patches and/or DLC come along).
Again, I can easily see them making the best endings easier to achieve to be a selling point of any additional story based DLC, especially since they know some of their fans do not care about MP at all.

Modifié par Finis Valorum, 18 février 2012 - 02:44 .

[ElitePinecone]

crayonsun wrote...
snip

FemShep's third romance option might be there, I haven't heard anything about the updated script and the rumours that were floating around about him. The intended storyline has definitely changed from the November leak. The mission he and Kasumi went on no longer exists in the game. 

The lack of o/s LIs (sans Kaidan) for femShep is truly bizarre, if Vega isn't an option. 

It's like... almost unbelievable. I can't even conceive that it'd ever happen in the game. 

Then again, nine or ten months ago the focus was on 'no new romances' and instead making the continuation of ME/ME2 romances the emphasis of ME3.

Maybe with the extra development time, attention was given to the s/s stuff (and Allers) and it was assumed femShep would have enough options through just picking old LIs at new game creation?

[Ryzaki]

LukaCrosszeria wrote...

*snip*

Except the devs have constantly said that the MP helps but the best ending is still acheivable in single player alone. Even the achievements suggest this.

Basically you can afford to screw up a little to get the best ending if you play MP. If you play SP only however screwing up will cost you the best ending. You have to do everything perfectly if you're not playing MP to get the best game.

@Elite: Considering what they do to some of her LIs I don't see how they could do that with a straight face.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 18 février 2012 - 02:51 .

[LemonCurry?]

ElitePinecone wrote...

FemShep's third romance option might be there, I haven't heard anything about the updated script and the rumours that were floating around about him. The intended storyline has definitely changed from the November leak. The mission he and Kasumi went on no longer exists in the game. 

The lack of o/s LIs (sans Kaidan) for femShep is truly bizarre, if Vega isn't an option. 

It's like... almost unbelievable. I can't even conceive that it'd ever happen in the game. 

Then again, nine or ten months ago the focus was on 'no new romances' and instead making the continuation of ME/ME2 romances the emphasis of ME3.

Maybe with the extra development time, attention was given to the s/s stuff (and Allers) and it was assumed femShep would have enough options through just picking old LIs at new game creation?

Yeah, I know a lot of Bioware games have been imbalanced romance-wise but never this heavily. It is bizarre. It's almost like it's Baldur's Gate 2 again except even moreso. But interesting, I didn't know about the storyline change, I've been spoiled random things here and there so some might be outdated.

The MP thing worries me now too. I really have no interest in playing with strangers online, and I only know one friend who plays ME. Surely they wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot like this? Surely?

But I'm still really excited about the VS thing. *sigh* It feels almost schizophrenic.

[Finis Valorum]

Ryzaki wrote...
Basically you can afford to screw up a little to get the best ending if you play MP. If you play SP only however screwing up will cost you the best ending. You have to do everything perfectly if you're not playing MP to get the best game.

Which is exactly why I fear the inevitable bugs now more than ever.
Most likely until the story based DLC's come along, hopefully they'll add the ability for us to screw around some in SP as well.