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[LemonCurry?]

Hm, I'm sleep-deprived and a little slow on the uptake tonight, but I didn't realize how my throwaway comment could be taken - I didn't mean to insult anyone who doesn't know how characters' names are spelled.  I've just seen Alistair/Leliana's names spelled with barely four letters strung together at some places and that's what I was referring to (but then those posts have usually featured a slew of other typos as well), not if someone thinks Alistair is spelled Alastair because they play without subtitles. So I am sorry if it came across that way. And about further off-topicness, just wanted to clear that up.

On topic - I wonder if Kelly counts as a full romance this time around? Or just an expanded fling. I'm still inclined to count her on some level, achievement or no achievement... especially because of Allers now - there's only so many flings you can add and still call the romances 'balanced' IMO. :/ Still hoping for male flings for either gender, but if there's nothing in the leak, then I guess that's moot.

[Ryzaki]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Spoiler Character is a little old for Shepard,.surely?

Oh I don't know. Shep has no problems sleeping with LIara and hitting on Samara.

[Ricvenart]

SolidBeast wrote...

True that.
But still, who angered you, mate?
You should play some MP.

So called "help", "support groups" etc.
True about MP, is great fun and so vastly different to what you might expect from the forum's. Even to what some people on the demo are demanding as requirements to play with them on the forums, I don't know whether to laugh or cry over the idea that someone "doesn't want to waste thier time" when thier playing a demo, which they;ll have to redo in a few weeks, by playing with "new players", when it came out 2 days ago officially.

[corky_g]

Ryzaki wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
Yeah but I doubt he pays equal attention to everything. Could have just gotten some odd sounding dialogue and assumed he was. I think I read some pages ago that someone actually thought they were in a relationship with him in ME1 but then got surprised at not getting the paramour achievement at the end.

Seriously? The lack of romance dialogue didn't tip them off? 

Well hopefully he screwed up recognizing Vega's romance then. Please let that be so.

Haha, that was me, but you're a little off. I didn't think I had romanced Kaidan; I knew I hadn't. When I went online to see how I messed up, I was surprised to find out that he wasn't available to mShep. My point was that he did come across as possibly gay/bi, and that based on his dialogue he could/should have been made available to mShep in ME1.

Also, in defense of my naivety at the time, it was the first game I had ever played that had romanceable characters. In fact, I believe it was only the second game I'd ever played that had dialogue options (after Oblivion, which I really messed up in, because I swear this one Xivilai totally had the hots for me but I could never get him to commit ).

A little more on topic: I'm catching up here, and wow, this place is a rollercoaster! All I really want is to be a dirty Kaidan toucher... which appears possible at this point. I'm sure I'll enjoy some Cortez too, in at least one playthrough. Vega would be neat as m/m, but I can do without, so no big loss for me. But man... poor femShep; it's looking bleak for her right now.

Then again, all this tlk could be BW trolling hard. I have a theory. BW likes to drop hints, right? You just gotta know where to look. I was checking out that link with the classified characters thingy, and noticed Vega`s profile included "He works hard, plays hard..." and couldn`t help but think about how Vega kinda works in the aerospace industry... and his buff body suggests that he could have worked in a steel mill. Just sayin'

[I know I'm irrelevant, just trying to keep things light among the doom and gloom]

Modifié par corky_g, 19 février 2012 - 03:11 .

[SolidBeast]

@Ric - you on PC?

@Corky - my mistake, man. Still wasn't attempting to portray you as dense, because irregardless of your experience, similar things have happened before to others.

[Ryzaki]

@corky: LOL fair enough.

Nah I don't see BW trolling to this extent. They wouldn't have been so irritable if it was trolling on their part.

[Ricvenart]

Xbox, sadly, think if I tried to run the demo my PC would throw itself out the window crying.

[ElitePinecone]

Ryzaki wrote...

@corky: LOL fair enough.

Nah I don't see BW trolling to this extent. They wouldn't have been so irritable if it was trolling on their part.

The writers were (and still are) genuinely upset. To the point of vengeful Twitter bans. 

[SolidBeast]

Ricvenart wrote...

Xbox, sadly, think if I tried to run the demo my PC would throw itself out the window crying.

Ah, shame.

[corky_g]

Ryzaki wrote...

@corky: LOL fair enough.

Nah I don't see BW trolling to this extent. They wouldn't have been so irritable if it was trolling on their part.

Oh, I doubt they're trolling. That was just a segueway... to a reference to the Simpsons... which I was using to imply that Vega is gay... which appears he is not. Boo-urns!

SolidBeast wrote...

my mistake, man. Still wasn't
attempting to portray you as dense, because irregardless of your
experience, similar things have happened before to others.

No biggie, you were making a valid point.

Besides, sometimes I can be very dense (like thinking that the totally hilarious thoughts in my twisted mind would somehow translate well into jokes in a written post).


EDIT:

corky_g wrote...

[I know I'm irrelevant, just trying to keep things light among the doom and gloom]

And I just realized that was supposed to be "I know I'm being irrelevant..."
Now that was pretty dense

Modifié par corky_g, 19 février 2012 - 04:33 .

[corky_g]

double post

Modifié par corky_g, 19 février 2012 - 04:29 .

[corky_g]

WOW, triple post.

I'm going to bed now, it's late 

Modifié par corky_g, 19 février 2012 - 04:31 .

[P_Bed]

So ashley seems like a no go for S/S? Hopefully we can still get miranda. I want one of the older characters for my more butch femshep. Being lesbian really doesn't fit ashley's character.

[Maugrim]

P_Bed wrote...

So ashley seems like a no go for S/S? Hopefully we can still get miranda. I want one of the older characters for my more butch femshep. Being lesbian really doesn't fit ashley's character.

Actually Ashley is looking more promising than ever last I heard.  Now that doesn't mean she is a f/f romance but we have more reason to hope now than we did before from various leaks and rumors.

[Vapaa]

makenzieshepard wrote...

P_Bed wrote...

So ashley seems like a no go for S/S? Hopefully we can still get miranda. I want one of the older characters for my more butch femshep. Being lesbian really doesn't fit ashley's character.

Actually Ashley is looking more promising than ever last I heard.  Now that doesn't mean she is a f/f romance but we have more reason to hope now than we did before from various leaks and rumors.

Yes, it's more Miranda witch is a no go, even for new LI

[ElitePinecone]

Vapaä wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

P_Bed wrote...

So ashley seems like a no go for S/S? Hopefully we can still get miranda. I want one of the older characters for my more butch femshep. Being lesbian really doesn't fit ashley's character.

Actually Ashley is looking more promising than ever last I heard.  Now that doesn't mean she is a f/f romance but we have more reason to hope now than we did before from various leaks and rumors.

Yes, it's more Miranda witch is a no go, even for new LI

Miranda is almost certainly not available.

[GalacticTHOR]

I have no issue with same-sex relationships. In fact I think in the cases of RPG's that focus quite strongly on relationships they should be there. The only thing I am worried about is generally speaking Shepard has been considered straight for the past two games, I suppose this may not hold true for female Shepard if she romanced Liara as Liara does look like a woman, but, back to my point. If Shepard has been considered straight in previous titles it would feel kinda odd if Shepard doesn't comment on his/her interest in the same-sex. So, yes I think it is good that same-sex relationships have been introduced (although my Shep won't be going for one, he already has enough trouble trying to choose Miranda or Ashley) I think seeing as they haven't been mentioned before they should comment on them, to make it feel more real to the players. Well that is my thoughts anyway.

[Ailith Tycane]

GalacticTHOR wrote...

I have no issue with same-sex relationships. In fact I think in the cases of RPG's that focus quite strongly on relationships they should be there. The only thing I am worried about is generally speaking Shepard has been considered straight for the past two games, I suppose this may not hold true for female Shepard if she romanced Liara as Liara does look like a woman, but, back to my point. If Shepard has been considered straight in previous titles it would feel kinda odd if Shepard doesn't comment on his/her interest in the same-sex. So, yes I think it is good that same-sex relationships have been introduced (although my Shep won't be going for one, he already has enough trouble trying to choose Miranda or Ashley) I think seeing as they haven't been mentioned before they should comment on them, to make it feel more real to the players. Well that is my thoughts anyway.

"Shepard" is different for every person who plays the game, so this comment is sort of pointless. Shepard has been considered straight to you, in your game, yeah. But to others, maybe he/she hasn't. Thats the point of having a customizeable character. You make them your own.

Modifié par Ailith430, 19 février 2012 - 11:39 .

[Homebound]

wait, femshep can mance miri?

[ElitePinecone]

Hellbound555 wrote...

wait, femshep can mance miri?

No... 

[Ailith Tycane]

Hellbound555 wrote...

wait, femshep can mance miri?

Where did you get that impression?

[Puzzlewell]

It's been ages since I poked around the topic and even if we still don't have complete confirmation, the fact that Ash is seeming more and more likely to be a s/s option makes me most pleased. ♥ I'll of course still keep my skepticism in check just in case it isn't true but BW maybe finally opening up what I've hoped for since day 1 is such a fantastic feeling. This is a damn good way to convince me to create a whole new Shepard after finding out from ME3.

[highcastle]

GalacticTHOR wrote...

I have no issue with same-sex relationships. In fact I think in the cases of RPG's that focus quite strongly on relationships they should be there. The only thing I am worried about is generally speaking Shepard has been considered straight for the past two games, I suppose this may not hold true for female Shepard if she romanced Liara as Liara does look like a woman, but, back to my point. If Shepard has been considered straight in previous titles it would feel kinda odd if Shepard doesn't comment on his/her interest in the same-sex. So, yes I think it is good that same-sex relationships have been introduced (although my Shep won't be going for one, he already has enough trouble trying to choose Miranda or Ashley) I think seeing as they haven't been mentioned before they should comment on them, to make it feel more real to the players. Well that is my thoughts anyway.

There's no point in either of the first two games where Shepard has to say he's explicitly straight. It doesn't come up; he doesn't mention it. The tendency to assume this means he's straight is a result of heteronormativity, i.e. the belief that someone is straight until proven gay. That's a personal and cultural bias, though, and in no way reflective of Shepard's actual sexuality. Plenty of people, myself included, have played celibate Shepards because they head-canoned that he was gay. The games still make sense, no logic is being violated.

Bottom line: you don't have to announce you're gay all the time to actually be gay.

[Collider]

Male Shepard can tell Steve that he hasn't found the right man yet: there's his comment on his sexuality.

The new Kaidan romance plays out like Kaidan and Shepard were either hiding or unaware of their feelings (for a nondescript reason).

So I think "appeared "straight" in the previous two games" is covered.

[shepskisaac]

GalacticTHOR wrote...

I suppose this may not hold true for female Shepard

And that's the point. By allowing FemShep to be bi or a lesbian, they automatically made it valid for ManShep to be rolled as bi/gay, regardless if there were romances for him with males or not. ManShep & FemShep are suppoused to be the same character with the same customization options. If you allow the players to define sexual orientation of one, you can't say "ohh but in male version Shep is only straight". That's why Muzyka's statement was so stupid.