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ElitePinecone

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IsaacShep wrote...

Russalka wrote...

SneakiestNeg wrote...
 I do wonder what the official ESRB position is.


"HOT DAMN!" I hope.

It would be priceless if you saw "Hella HWAT tbh! - Entertainment Software Rating Board" on the cover of the game xD


GMAG! <3

(There was a pretty hilarious thing floating around on conservative blogs about Han and Chewbacca being romancable after s/s was announced for SWTOR, but that showed the complete and utter confusion of the critics rather than anything serious)

I don't think it'll be mentioned much. Even five years is a big difference in terms of public perception - of video games and other things. It's de rigeur for games to have content aimed at people older than fifteen, and I'd hope the bogeyman of 'games corrupting children' has been well and truly defeated.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

I don't think it'll be mentioned much. Even five years is a big difference in terms of public perception - of video games and other things. It's de rigeur for games to have content aimed at people older than fifteen, and I'd hope the bogeyman of 'games corrupting children' has been well and truly defeated.


EA better be more consistant in its marketing, however. Trying to justify sex and violence in video games because "M" games are aimed at adults, while AT THE SAME TIME running ads saying "Your mother will hate this game!" for Deep Space 2 (?) doesn't help the image of mature games for mature gamers. Of course, neither does the BSN.

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Weekly check in on my only real question: Shega(m)?

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is garrus bloody gay in this game

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Knightly_BW

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That is disturbing news. I wonder why some people, especially ones whose in places of power (like political leaders or media bosses) lack empathy this much. This weekend I saw "The Help" and I remembered once again every minority suffered that kind of harrasment. Minority includes everyone who aren't "White straight male <insert religion here>". We are in 2012, which is according to some soothsayers end of the world, and we, as humans still couldn't move an inch forward in some aspects of humanity. Still there are wars, discrimination, sexism and injustice. How can this be while everyone wishes for peace, justice and understanding? Maybe being an egoistical beast nature of humans.

I know I interested in boys instead of girls since I was 5 or 6. Then I was thinking it will pass when I reach certain age, like 15 or 20. When I fall in love with another boy at age of 16 I admited what I am. However due to society and religious things taught to me, I always thought I was cursed with that "gayness". Who wants to be an outsider.. an abomination willingly after all, yes?

In years I started to see different aspect, in some sense you can say benefit of being a gay. I am/was free from predijuce. I have this ability to see people beyond labels society stapled on them. I learned to judge people by their deeds. If some people prefer to see "a gay" when they look at me instead of a human, I only feel sorry for them as the darkness surrounds their lives, also shrouds their humanity.

I watched this video called Angry Eye. It is very unsettling experiment but I think maybe it will help some people to see things under a different light.

Anyway, long rant off. Carry on with topic. Sorry for dragging it out of its track.

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alexdrake wrote...

Weekly check in on my only real question: Shega(m)?


Looking less and less likely from what we're hearing, but I refuse to remove my tinfoil hat!

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alexdrake wrote...

Weekly check in on my only real question: Shega(m)?


Currently there ain't any evidence supporting Vega is romanceable by either gender.

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Blood broker 1.1 wrote...

is garrus bloody gay in this game


No. 

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I've never posted here before but I'm just curious. Could anyone tell me who's availble for Same-Sex romances please? I really don't want to look through the WHOLE thread...

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MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...

I've never posted here before but I'm just curious. Could anyone tell me who's availble for Same-Sex romances please? I really don't want to look through the WHOLE thread...


Steve (m/m), Samantha and Kelly (f/f), Liara are certain S/S options.

Ashley and Kaidan rumored to be S/S as well but still not certain. If there won't be another leak we will learn their romance options when US players start playing on 6th March.

Hope that will help.

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Asperius wrote...

MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...

I've never posted here before but I'm just curious. Could anyone tell me who's availble for Same-Sex romances please? I really don't want to look through the WHOLE thread...


Steve (m/m), Samantha and Kelly (f/f), Liara are certain S/S options.

Ashley and Kaidan rumored to be S/S as well but still not certain. If there won't be another leak we will learn their romance options when US players start playing on 6th March.

Hope that will help.


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Asperius wrote...

MassEffect4Eva1710 wrote...

I've never posted here before but I'm just curious. Could anyone tell me who's availble for Same-Sex romances please? I really don't want to look through the WHOLE thread...


Steve (m/m), Samantha and Kelly (f/f), Liara are certain S/S options.

Ashley and Kaidan rumored to be S/S as well but still not certain. If there won't be another leak we will learn their romance options when US players start playing on 6th March.

Hope that will help.


Diana Allers is also rumored to be a s/s option.  Standard disclaimer: As last I heard.

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I'd say Ashley and Kaidan are looking more likely by the day.

More posts by SAFG asking about the multiplayer thing confirmed that he wasn't contradicting Bioware when he said multiplayer was required, he just wasn't sure of the numbers.

But his explanation pretty perfectly matches what we know from the game files (particularly the recent leak and the War Assets list)

Edit: just to clarify, MP still isn't necessary but you'd need to do pretty much everything in SP, including spamming the war assets, to get the best result. SAFG thought it was silly and futile to do that when playing some MP would help with the readiness/assets level. 

It's very confusing.

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 21 février 2012 - 10:09 .


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ElitePinecone wrote...

I'd say Ashley and Kaidan are looking more likely by the day.


If it turns out to be true, I'll have everything I wanted.....except my main target Tali :pinched:

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ElitePinecone wrote...

I'd say Ashley and Kaidan are looking more likely by the day.

More posts by SAFG asking about the multiplayer thing confirmed that he wasn't contradicting Bioware when he said multiplayer was required, he just wasn't sure of the numbers.

But his explanation pretty perfectly matches what we know from the game files (particularly the recent leak and the War Assets list)

Edit: just to clarify, MP still isn't necessary but you'd need to do pretty much everything in SP, including spamming the war assets, to get the best result. SAFG thought it was silly and futile to do that when playing some MP would help with the readiness/assets level. 

It's very confusing.


I'm very confused about SP/MP relation. I have 6 sheps and which one will benefit from my MP playtime?

In a way I am glad US players will start playing ahead of us 3 days so they can give us usefull insight for our first run. I will use Matt Shepard import first to romance Steve. Posted Image

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Asperius wrote...

I'm very confused about SP/MP relation. I have 6 sheps and which one will benefit from my MP playtime?


All of them will benefit, but this benefit decays over time

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Asperius wrote...
I'm very confused about SP/MP relation. I have 6 sheps and which one will benefit from my MP playtime?

In a way I am glad US players will start playing ahead of us 3 days so they can give us usefull insight for our first run. I will use Matt Shepard import first to romance Steve. Posted Image


The best explanation I've seen for it was:

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Readiness isn't points, it's a percentage. In the main game you have a thing called Total Military Strength which is the combined total of all your war assets. The percentage of that force that is ready to fight (which is calculated using your Readiness %) is called your Effective Military Strength.

Your Effective Military Strength is what you're going to use when you try to take back Earth. The higher it is, the better.

Promoting a character to single player turns them into a war asset worth 75 points that is tied to all the Shepard you have or will ever have. This stacks if you promote multiple characters. There's no AssBro or AssRev style micro-management where you assign your N7 operatives to complete tasks. 

It is easier to get the best ending with a high Readiness score, so yes (though at the end of the day, it's the Effective Military Strength that matters). It's best to play multiplayer concurrently with your single player playthrough so that your Readiness remains high. "

Readiness as a percentage declines, but it's entirely possible to max it out (in terms of points) by doing singleplayer sidequests and finding war assets. 

I'm sure there'll be a better explanation for it soon. Or at least, I'd hope so. 

I'm not doubting much of what SAFG is saying, though. S/S Ashley and Kaidan seems pretty likely indeed. 

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Promoting a character to single player turns them into a war asset worth 75 points that is tied to all the Shepard you have or will ever have.


What? That's BS. It can't be right. That would mean I can't get the worst possible ending as long as I play MP and import it for my other Shepards, who I want to have a best possible ending with?

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I guess you can still achieve worst ending (if such thing exist) with bad decisions playthrough and letting Readiness decay.

As I've happen to read ending spoilers all endings looks bad to me.

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Asperius wrote...

I guess you can still achieve worst ending (if such thing exist) with bad decisions playthrough and letting Readiness decay.

As I've happen to read ending spoilers all endings looks bad to me.


Yeah, but I had hoped I wouldn't have to meta all the time and make the worst decisions on purpose. I'm sure I'll screw up somewhere on my playthrough, but I don't want it to be negated by the amount of points I collected in MP. It's just a stupid, stupid system. Why can't I import the MP characters into individual playthroughs?

To the other part, bad as in badly written or bad as in tragic? No spoilers, please.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 21 février 2012 - 01:50 .


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I am really pleased that Bioware decided to finally include s/s relationships (outside of Asari >_>) in Mass Effect. I really thought they did a great and mature job of incorporating them in Dragon Age: Origins, so I have no doubts they will be the same in ME3.

Moreover, as a member of the LGBT community I am glad that we are being represented in a way, even if it is a small way. Seemingly inconsequential things can help combat ignorance and prejudice in the long run. Bravo Bioware!

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Maybe importing the MP characters will just give you more options for the endings but you can still achieve a bad one if you want? (I know I will want to try out the bad endings at least once). And I'm guessing that if you deliberately pick every wrong choice you can in the main game importing won't make a huge difference.

Can somebody link me to somewhere that has the ending spoilers, please? I read them some time ago in a group but I now lost the link and can't find it even when I search :/. I want to know what 'the best' ending is considered to be.

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SolidBeast wrote...

Asperius wrote...

I guess you can still achieve worst ending (if such thing exist) with bad decisions playthrough and letting Readiness decay.

As I've happen to read ending spoilers all endings looks bad to me.


Yeah, but I had hoped I wouldn't have to meta all the time and make the worst decisions on purpose. I'm sure I'll screw up somewhere on my playthrough, but I don't want it to be negated by the amount of points I collected in MP. It's just a stupid, stupid system. Why can't I import the MP characters into individual playthroughs?

To the other part, bad as in badly written or bad as in tragic? No spoilers, please.


I don't know how the ending written. I hope that will be enough. Keep in mind tho' that is according to my point of view. Posted Image

Edit: @Katerinafm, I also reach that thread from link on another thread.

Modifié par Asperius, 21 février 2012 - 02:22 .


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katerinafm wrote...
 And I'm guessing that if you deliberately pick every wrong choice you can in the main game importing won't make a huge difference.
 


That's the point I was making. I don't want to have to look things up then deliberately make all the wrong choices just because I imported MP characters for one of my other playthroughs. I just want to go with my gut and if I screw up, then so be it, makes the whole thing more real, and not "Oh you screwed up, but lucky for you, your galactic readiness is at 80% anyway!".

Asperius wrote...

I don't know how the ending written. I hope that will be enough. Keep in mind tho' that is according to my point of view. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png


:mellow: You didn't tell me anything.

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SolidBeast wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

Promoting a character to single player turns them into a war asset worth 75 points that is tied to all the Shepard you have or will ever have.


What? That's BS. It can't be right. That would mean I can't get the worst possible ending as long as I play MP and import it for my other Shepards, who I want to have a best possible ending with?



Yes, though you'd need to import hundreds of characters to offset not doing anything at all in the SP. 

But it does seem like it's difficult to deliberately get the worst ending if you play MP.