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#2001
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Siansonea II wrote...

Hmmm, I think speculations about bestiality and real-world Earth are rather off-topic.


And inflammatory. >.>

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Might as well not comment about it further since it will risk derailing the thread to much.

Now back on topic I am kinda upset with Bioware. Since s/s romances is possible I will likely have to do multiple playthroughs with a Male shep for kaidan. Damn you Bioware for making awesome games!

#2003
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1136342t54 wrote...

Might as well not comment about it further since it will risk derailing the thread to much.

Now back on topic I am kinda upset with Bioware. Since s/s romances is possible I will likely have to do multiple playthroughs with a Male shep for kaidan. Damn you Bioware for making awesome games!


Well, it's important to note that even though many have speculated that Kaidan will be a s/s option, it's by no means been confirmed by BioWare that this is the case. I played my GayShep as having a mild crush on Kaidan, and certainly if he does end up being the s/s option, my Sentinel will be as happy as a clam. Well, as happy as a survivor of Mindoir and Akuze could possibly be. :blush: But if it's some other dude, like Joker or James Vega, he'll adapt. ;)

#2004
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1136342t54 wrote...

Might as well not comment about it further since it will risk derailing the thread to much.

Now back on topic I am kinda upset with Bioware. Since s/s romances is possible I will likely have to do multiple playthroughs with a Male shep for kaidan. Damn you Bioware for making awesome games!


I know, right? And it wont feel right, to me, to just pick up a new shep in the game, I'm going to have to start each one over at ME1 and play through them all. Still, I've got a year to get a few through 1 and 2, so I'm not worried. :)

#2005
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KawaiiKatie wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Siansonea II wrote...

Ah yes, the Eternity Bar bachelor party scene, I remember it well, and it has inadvertently caused a world of misunderstanding regarding asari appearance. Asari aren't projecting a mental hologram into the mind of the viewer, if anything the upshot of that conversation is that each species fixates on features of the asari that are most similar to their own species, and it's believed that the reason for this is some type of asari pheremone, whether it's some type of chemical substance or subtle biotic effect. That's my take anyway. That scene has led many people down the primrose path, as amusing as it was I wish they had left it out.


I hope you aren't assuming I think the Asari are projecting a mental image to other species. just read my post above and thats basically what I think about the subject. To be honest it wouldn't be that out of the ordinary. Its possible that the Asari don't realize that mentally they are affecting another being's minds making an Asari less of a threat to a possible predator and it may have evolved from that. We know that Asari have mental capabilities so I wouldn't entirely rule it out but its less likely to be true.


No. No, no, no, no.

Where is Sten when I need him?

The Asari do not alter their appearance mentally in the minds of other species, subconsciously or otherwise. If they did, someone in the universe would have figured it out by now. Even if the solution was something as simple as making different races draw the Asari and then compare notes (possibly on a planet where no Asari are around to "influence" their minds) I garuntee that someone would have figured it out by now.


To me that dancer like the Consort exhibit mind controlling tendancies. This dancer may or maynot be aware of what she does to her patrons but the Consort is walk in there everyone is in near trance like states like the humans on Feros. There is something beyond comprehension at work there more then likely these two have sleeper agent cells in them and when the reapers arrive these two amongst others will be the wolves in sheeps clothing Vigil mentioned happened before.

The ingame evidence states male Asari use to be around then vanished and no one remembers why if the Asari where collected by the reapers in the past and they say foundout the males could link minds and the females could select genetic traits all they did was combine these two abilities into one Asari, made it female, altered the DNA to allow for reaper influencing, and made them attractive to all known species at the time both collected and non collected and unleashed them back into the world after the cycle to begin repopulating.

Once the Asari are activated they will play different roles during the invasion girls like the dancer will alter the signals in peoples minds if need be to gain their trust before handing them over to reaper agents or they will lure them in and outright kill them. Ones like the consort will just brainwash them like the thorian did and call them to a location to be taken care of.

At current the dancer anyway is living her life thinking she is whom she is when the reapers come and use their signals she will stop being the fake representation she was and start doing her purpose like Boomer from BSG. I think the consort is aware of her purpose for the reapers and is willingly doing her job no sleeping fake life required.

Now I just gave you a brief fast forward explanation to see the case for Asari usefulness in the reaper invasion go here: social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/6880106

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 22 juin 2011 - 04:02 .


#2006
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Siansonea II wrote...

Hmmm, I think speculations about bestiality and real-world Earth are rather off-topic.

not really off topic, 
i agree it's a bit taboo and far from me the intention to start flaming backlashes. 
but the philosophy behind is what makes possible a physical attraction to an alien species ?
How is it different from let's say an intelligent earth species ?

that thought came to me as i was reading some comments in this thread about love between a turian and a human as being impossible . 

that's all. 

#2007
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Personally I always thought a Male Shep/ Kaidan romance would work awesomely, even if it didn't happen in ME1. The way it was written left a lot of room for speculation regarding their true feelings for each other. I would heartily be behind this pairing in ME3. In fact I'm hoping for it.

#2008
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Badpie wrote...

Personally I always thought a Male Shep/ Kaidan romance would work awesomely, even if it didn't happen in ME1. The way it was written left a lot of room for speculation regarding their true feelings for each other. I would heartily be behind this pairing in ME3. In fact I'm hoping for it.

Not to mention mention the Horizon scene between them.:o

#2009
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IsaacShep wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Personally I always thought a Male Shep/ Kaidan romance would work awesomely, even if it didn't happen in ME1. The way it was written left a lot of room for speculation regarding their true feelings for each other. I would heartily be behind this pairing in ME3. In fact I'm hoping for it.

Not to mention mention the Horizon scene between them.:o


I know kaidan acted like a wounded lover almost like my Irl bf does when we fight. But i still wanted to just pull him close and tell him ever thing would be alright.

Modifié par Roachbugg, 22 juin 2011 - 06:34 .


#2010
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ArawnNox wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Might as well not comment about it further since it will risk derailing the thread to much.

Now back on topic I am kinda upset with Bioware. Since s/s romances is possible I will likely have to do multiple playthroughs with a Male shep for kaidan. Damn you Bioware for making awesome games!


I know, right? And it wont feel right, to me, to just pick up a new shep in the game, I'm going to have to start each one over at ME1 and play through them all. Still, I've got a year to get a few through 1 and 2, so I'm not worried. :)



same "problem" here, although i already have some 9 or so heps ready, i just started another 2 from ME 1 last week:happy:,

i really should reconsider my free time spending habits:?


:D

#2011
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First, you want new LI in ME3 to be bisexual. Wasted resources but fine. Who cares.

Now you want established ME2/ME1 characters to be bisexual? What the hell. You must really love to ruin good characters. Anders was awesome in DA:A but he's definitely worst character in DA2 (mostly because he has suddenly become bisexual, without any reason at all).

I wonder what's next. Let me guess... Bestiality?

#2012
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okay, again i'm saying this:<_<

NOBODY forces you to play the romances, they're optional, don't like it: s*** it up and play your game your way, while we play ours however the hell we prefer it :devil:


EDIT: we already had this discussion i might, several times!

Modifié par Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger, 22 juin 2011 - 11:59 .


#2013
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For several pages multiple times the horse is dead stop beating it.

#2014
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u mad bro?

#2015
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Roachbugg wrote...

For several pages multiple times the horse is dead stop beating it.

Since he is bringing up bestiality, he might actually enjoy beating off the horse. 

#2016
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nice one MACharlie xD


@ Epic: yes we are, because we're tired of discussing this over and over again.

your pov differs from ours, okay, you're entitled to your opinion, just please keep it to yourself  since we already decided we wouldn't go on arguing over this.

Modifié par Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger, 22 juin 2011 - 12:17 .


#2017
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Epic Legion wrote...

u mad bro?


if i was mad you would know it that was an entirely sarcastic staement i really hate when people ask that.

Modifié par Roachbugg, 22 juin 2011 - 12:26 .


#2018
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Epic Legion wrote...

First, you want new LI in ME3 to be bisexual. Wasted resources but fine. Who cares.

Now you want established ME2/ME1 characters to be bisexual? What the hell. You must really love to ruin good characters. Anders was awesome in DA:A but he's definitely worst character in DA2 (mostly because he has suddenly become bisexual, without any reason at all).

I wonder what's next. Let me guess... Bestiality?





Ummm ok, just going to pop in here to press the point:
Anders sexuality is not what derailed his character. Sexuality =/= personality.
Anders personality was drastically changed from DA to DA2, and his sexuality was one tiny aspect of this.

And also, what do you have against Bisexuals? what makes them a bad character?

People want the previous s/s romance options to be restored, thane, tali, ash, kaiden and jack I believe. Although from the looks of who we're getting back, it'll only be tali and the VS. This isn't character derailment, this is merely exploring on what was already there (i.e came with the conceptualisation of the character).
Garrus is also a completly resonable option because dating shepard would not make him bi, it would technically make him pansexual, which he already is for dating femshep. Seriously, the same reasons the game gives for Garrus and femshep's relationship could easily work for maleshep, expecially considering how "masculine" female turians apparently look like anyway.

Also, people really need to understand that just because someone dates women/ men all life, does not make them hetro/ homosexual. Actually, science suggests that the majority of people are bisexual, and would be openly if not for societies pressures, there you go.

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Mudzr wrote...

Epic Legion wrote...

First, you want new LI in ME3 to be bisexual. Wasted resources but fine. Who cares.

Now you want established ME2/ME1 characters to be bisexual? What the hell. You must really love to ruin good characters. Anders was awesome in DA:A but he's definitely worst character in DA2 (mostly because he has suddenly become bisexual, without any reason at all).

I wonder what's next. Let me guess... Bestiality?





Ummm ok, just going to pop in here to press the point:
Anders sexuality is not what derailed his character. Sexuality =/= personality.
Anders personality was drastically changed from DA to DA2, and his sexuality was one tiny aspect of this.

And also, what do you have against Bisexuals? what makes them a bad character?

People want the previous s/s romance options to be restored, thane, tali, ash, kaiden and jack I believe. Although from the looks of who we're getting back, it'll only be tali and the VS. This isn't character derailment, this is merely exploring on what was already there (i.e came with the conceptualisation of the character).
Garrus is also a completly resonable option because dating shepard would not make him bi, it would technically make him pansexual, which he already is for dating femshep. Seriously, the same reasons the game gives for Garrus and femshep's relationship could easily work for maleshep, expecially considering how "masculine" female turians apparently look like anyway.

Also, people really need to understand that just because someone dates women/ men all life, does not make them hetro/ homosexual. Actually, science suggests that the majority of people are bisexual, and would be openly if not for societies pressures, there you go.


Garrus is as straight as a plank, get it through your thick skull.

Modifié par Epic Legion, 22 juin 2011 - 12:56 .


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Please, don't ruin Garrus for me.

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I am getting sick of 'Fem!Shep <3 Miranda etc.' groups... New bi people > turning people bi.

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Roachbugg wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Badpie wrote...

Personally I always thought a Male Shep/ Kaidan romance would work awesomely, even if it didn't happen in ME1. The way it was written left a lot of room for speculation regarding their true feelings for each other. I would heartily be behind this pairing in ME3. In fact I'm hoping for it.

Not to mention mention the Horizon scene between them.:o


I know kaidan acted like a wounded lover almost like my Irl bf does when we fight. But i still wanted to just pull him close and tell him ever thing would be alright.


Just had to jump in and say I also totally support a Kaidan/MShep romance as well. The Horizon scene is the reason why poor Ashley never makes it off Virmire for me, well that and Sentinels rule! Posted Image

I always feel a whole lot of sexual tension in that scene and I don't know how anyone could not interpret the "loosing you was like loosing a limb" comment as anything other than an "I Love you Shepherd" from Kaidan!  Well in my opinion anyway! Posted Image

*Jumps out*

#2023
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Garrus is straight? Hmmm did you collaborate with bioware's writers and therefore know for sure something that was not explicity said (and no, saying you are interested in women does not make you straight...).
People need to stop claiming things about characters that are not theirs. We are not Garrus, we did not write Garrus, we can therefore only assume things about him based on what we are told.
But whatever, I just said it was possible and not at all jarring for him to be bi, and it is perfectly possible to have a platonic "bromance" with a gay/ bi character. Also since sexuality =/= personality, a character's sexuality should not in any way "ruin" their character.

The reason i'm all for the all bi option is because I think it's best to have a mix of a few extablished and new characters, but since everyone has their own idea of who is apparently more likely to be bi and who isn't, it would be easier to just include all options (or none, but we know that isn't going to happen)

#2024
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Epic Legion wrote...

First, you want new LI in ME3 to be bisexual. Wasted resources but fine. Who cares.

Now you want established ME2/ME1 characters to be bisexual? What the hell. You must really love to ruin good characters. Anders was awesome in DA:A but he's definitely worst character in DA2 (mostly because he has suddenly become bisexual, without any reason at all).

I wonder what's next. Let me guess... Bestiality?




You mad?

Gays are in your base, making out with your dudes.

Also this link may be of some benefit to you, have a nice day.

Modifié par RinjiRenee, 22 juin 2011 - 01:20 .


#2025
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@ Epic, Midey:  Please for the love of god, we've been over this so many times already,

just accept that there are people with opinions different to yours.

In your game, and mine too by the way, garrus or any other character for that matter may be straight, but since Bioware games make it the players CHOICE to decide upon that, in someone else's playthroughs garrus may be totally gay because they chose to see him that way, so just let the issue rest, i'm sick of this starting all over again every time someone new comes into this thread and thinks he/she has to convince everyone else of how wrong they are!

just drop it and work on your ignorance/arrogance for a bit

This is after all a PRO s/s romance thread!

Modifié par Psychotic Killer Cheeseburger, 22 juin 2011 - 01:21 .