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ElitePinecone

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Charging back to the topic:

We probably won't get an announcement of the romances until they leak.

(Well, they leaked already, but... you know what I mean)

The "we want players to discover them in the game" line seems to be a pretty standard response. Even if little things like, oh, practically every location in the game, every weapon and every power have already been revealed officially.

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Sylvianus

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edit : Okay, yeah. At this level,  that sounds bad.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 28 février 2012 - 03:37 .


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Pretty much, yes. They kept it quiet this far, they certainly won't start to spoil on purpose now.

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Y'know it's really quite depressing having to check my GAME account every day just to make sure my CE order is still there (since a lot of folk have been moaning about theirs getting cancelled).

Any more news on the VS yet? :o

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Collider wrote...

I agree that we shouldn't have to mod this. It looks especially bad that they're pushing a certain character on us (guess who), too.


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It's funny: a few months ago I thought most of the rage directed towards ME3 was going to be about the s/s romances.

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ElitePinecone wrote...

It's funny: a few months ago I thought most of the rage directed towards ME3 was going to be about the s/s romances.


I don't know about the rage but my only enjoyment after seeing unpleasant ending was romances. However with this turmoil going around here and losing hope for any other m/m options other than Cortez really became a big turn off.

At least I can join MP games with my adept or engineer to enjoy ME3. Posted Image

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ElitePinecone wrote...

Charging back to the topic:

We probably won't get an announcement of the romances until they leak.

(Well, they leaked already, but... you know what I mean)

The "we want players to discover them in the game" line seems to be a pretty standard response. Even if little things like, oh, practically every location in the game, every weapon and every power have already been revealed officially.


Saw a lot of snipping, Elite :lol:

I agree with you, it seems so pointless to keep hiding it now.

Well the press are now playing the game, but it looks like reviews won't come out till March 6th.

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However with this turmoil going around here and losing hope for any other m/m options other than Cortez really became a big turn off.


Why are you losing hope? Because that one player committed to Liara couldn't romance Ashley?

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On the other hand I'm glad I spoiled things for myself so I can at least be prepared, but on the other hand... I can't even think of anything to say. Thanks a lot, BW.

And if I hear one more person claim Liara "isn't favored, what are you talking about" I will not be responsible for my actions, just sayin'. How could they think they'd get away with that? Did they run out of time that badly or do they honestly just not give a ****?

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LukaCrosszeria wrote...

Asperius wrote...
However with this turmoil going around here and losing hope for any other m/m options other than Cortez really became a big turn off.


Why are you losing hope? Because that one player committed to Liara couldn't romance Ashley?


I am too negative today after hearing all those unnerving news about ending and terrible flashbacks poking hated characters in my eye. Plus after playing demo mission, my general expectation about ME3 missions not high, classic do X if you want us to support you. DA:O did it with a class no need to do it again.

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They couldnt blame running out of time. If they claim, thats why things were not the way people wanted it. Cause ME3 was supposed to come out holiday 11. But decided to push it back because so many titles were coming out at that time and thought it would get lost under the others.

I have tried to only allow myself to see minor spoilers. I know a few things I wish I didnt sadly. I just hope in the end Im not let down.

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Did they run out of time that badly


Apparently, yes.

Though I'm baffled somebody at Bioware didn't take a look at that scene and think they were a bit short on characters. 

I mean, surely it's not hard to add the extras into what amounts to the most important scene in the entire series. 

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SolidBeast wrote...

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Cersei :wub::wub::wub:

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ElitePinecone wrote...


I mean, surely it's not hard to add the extras into what amounts to the most important scene in the entire series. 


Does it? I mean, maybe the scene is highly important, but the sequence everyone complains about seems like it'll be small. And, at any rate, have Shepard definitely reminiscing about about at least two people about whom I couldn't give a damn. What's one more? I can understand people being annoyed, but a lot of the reaction seems over the top.


Totally feeling a backlash against all this backlash. Everyone's getting upset over endings most of them haven't seen and can't contextualize (there's always a difference between knowing a plot point and seeing/reading something for myself, but I understand that others feel differently), and a small flashback. And people who've actually played the game have enjoyed it. I'm still really surprised people expected Shepard to get out of this thing alive.

edit: why am I always bizarrely formatting my messages. how is this happening

Modifié par umwhatyousay, 28 février 2012 - 03:44 .


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Sylvianus wrote...

And Bioware write well written stories, not hollywood films. M3 is about a galactic war. They wanted a galactic war in M3, a war of survival, and they wanted it realistic and emotional. You knew since Mass effect 1 how bad was the threat about the Reapers, now you see it and you understand what lived the Protheans. That is beautiful for me. , there are other many games out there happier. That's their universe, and they want to tell a story, that's more important, than, it is just a game, so necessarily rainbows.

DA2, that's the same story. The concept ( only the concept ) is great, there's no happy end with rainbows. Deus evolution was good too.

And I am not against happy ending, only those which look like hollywood, ( rainbow, care bears, etc )


I wouldn't go as far as to imply BW are that great, they are better then most sure, but I wouldn't claim they don't write hollywood stories either, liara and the ending being a prime example of mainstream and cliche, not a defense against it. What was the last Hollywood film you watched? Or Mainstream anything? Even disney have gone a bit darker then your repeated claim of carebears and rainbows. And even those big screen "cartoons" typically have more ability then most games to make me weep like a baby (Intro to Up, "When somebody loved me" toy story, Wall-e etc etc etc). Sure keep bad ending as an option but a game is an amazing thing that allows you to control the story and ending, why have 7 of more or less the identical thing then 1 option that players can work towards if they want to. A Happy ending doesn't automatically equate too Rainbows and Carebears either, but happiness, joy and love are all emotions too that are under representing in films.

I Agree on DA2, even within the ending which is largely the same but nessecary to facilitate the story, you have choices (the claims that there are no choice and consequene is obsurd really, you can kill a party member and failing to do so makes you lose another) but even then you get the choice of "The couple in love flee to secrecy and may live "happily" ever after." it's a choice and not forced on you either but there for people who want it. As for the 3 DE:HR endings counting as good? No, just no. Stock footage with little about the characters, next to no difference between them and frankly tripe philosophy of "human nature", with the added insult of an incredibly forced "twist" that was only made worse by a prior conversation where you cannot say anything you would want to say in that situation. I didn't mind the game play but right then the game left my console never to return as it completely killed any replayability for me, finding out the 1st dlc to be released was a missing part of the story we've passed didn't do anything to help though.

@SolidBeast: Pretty much how I thought you'd react. And totally not an over-reaction at all, well at least going by how I feel.

It'd be nice if they actually official confirmed Steve as a m/m romance at this point and the last bit of news we heard 10months ago regarding s/s wasn't implying f/f or things haven't changed since then and we are just getting trolled by masses of false info. Or at least confirm the number of m/m romance options rather then name people to just give an idea of choice and not spoil anything really. Then again whats the point if my shep ends up dreaming of liara with other aspects of the end. Surgery sounds more fun then that and the morphine is  very real and full of butterflies and rainbows.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 28 février 2012 - 03:57 .


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@Solid: LMAO those gifs are perfect for my reaction too <3

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Hey guys I tried to avoid spoliers for ME 3 but I saw people raging about Mirand in "her " topic.
So I'm guessing she's not Bi in ME 3 and her role is very mintor ?

Modifié par KreagonPL, 28 février 2012 - 03:51 .


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ElitePinecone wrote...

Nissun wrote...
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If you romance the VS, they appear. Otherwise, it's the other character.

Not a problem for mShep/Kaidan, but... I imagine a lot of other forumgoers would be pretty annoyed. 


Is m!Shep/Kaidan even happening at all?? I got the opposite impresion yesterday.

#20370
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@Ricvenart

I edited my post a while ago. I heard what are the endings and it doesn't make sense, indeed. 6 endings and no choice at all for shep, either dead or alone. ( I don't believe it for now )

and I do not agree with everything you said. It is a galactic war, there must be some people dead, etc. Happy ending, means victory, but not all consequences must be positive in an happy end. There can be love, peace, but not the same consequences for everyone. For exemple, some people sacrified, while the other are alive etc. We don't need a perfect ending and I stand on this opinion.

Now, about mass effect, I wait to see if it is true or false.

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KreagonPL wrote...

Hey guys I tried to avoid spoliers for ME 3 but I saw people raging about Mirand in "her " topic.
So I'm guessing she's not Bi in ME 3 and her role is very mintor ?


Nope, Miranda is still same as her ME2 self. Generally you can't start romance with ME2 LIs on ME3.

Like all other ME2 squadies she will have her side mission (one of the things in ME 3 I am excited about).

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Sylvianus wrote...

@Ricvenart

I edited my post a while ago. I heard what are the endings and it doesn't make sense, indeed. 6 endings and no choice at all for shep, either dead or alone. ( I don't believe it for now )

and I do not agree with everything you said. It is a galactic war, there must be some people dead, etc. Happy ending, means victory, but not all consequences must be positive in an happy end. There can be love, peace, but not the same consequences for everyone. For exemple, some people sacrified, while the other are alive etc. We don't need a perfect ending and I stand on this opinion.

Now, about mass effect, I wait to see if it is true or false.


I'm of the same opinion.  I know nothing of these supposed endings but an ending were nobody dies would frankly be boring. Having tragedy enhances the story - or to paraphrase TheHours "someone has to die so the rest of us know what we have".  I think I'm gonna try and start a romance with whatever s/s option is available but I'm happy for them to kick the bucket in the final act - I've never liked happy endings lol

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Sylvianus wrote...
but not all consequences must be positive in an happy end


Only going to reply to this one bit, I never said that, period.

@Bigbrowncow: I find endings with a mix to be the best, if I got to live "happily ever after" at a great cost it'd get more emotions out of me and wondering past the end then "grim story has grim ending where all is hopeless". Besides not everyone is going to make it out of this alive hundreds of thousand's  have in fact already died. A Shep that had to live with that while spending the rest of his life with an LI wouldn't all be rainbows and carebears.

Modifié par Ricvenart, 28 février 2012 - 04:18 .


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Also how likely is it that those who have seen this memory scene has had an s/s romance? Do we know if any of them have?

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DOn't know how to change de colooorr!!

Modifié par bas_kon, 28 février 2012 - 05:03 .