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At least in DA2 Varric mentions that Hawke stays with his LI...XD

Yes. That was enough for me... With that "then we'll fugitives together":.. I can see my Hawke running over the Vimmark mountains with Anders, killing templars... M.

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Think I'll check out until you guys stop spoiling.

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katerinafm wrote...

At least in DA2 Varric mentions that Hawke stays with his LI...XD


This. Hawke can barely do crap right other than fight, has his psycho companion blow up the Chantry, is a fugitive, has almost all his family die and he still gets a goddamn decent ending! Meanwhile Shep? Saves the galaxy and gets...those endings.

WTF? 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 28 février 2012 - 08:45 .


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Ryzaki wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

At least in DA2 Varric mentions that Hawke stays with his LI...XD


This. Hawke can barely do crap right other than fight, has his psycho companion blow up the Chantry, is a fugitive, has almost all his family die and he still gets a goddamn decent ending! Meanwhile Shep? Saves the galaxy and gets...those endings.

WTF? 

I dont want any spoilers but the bad endings you talk about. Is it just the way the Li endings are? or is it the entire ending thats bad (like what happens to shepard and the future)

Modifié par vertibird1, 28 février 2012 - 08:48 .


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vertibird1 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

At least in DA2 Varric mentions that Hawke stays with his LI...XD


This. Hawke can barely do crap right other than fight, has his psycho companion blow up the Chantry, is a fugitive, has almost all his family die and he still gets a goddamn decent ending! Meanwhile Shep? Saves the galaxy and gets...those endings.

WTF? 

I dont want any spoilers but the bad endings you talk about. Is it just the way the Li endings are? or is it the entire ending thats bad (like what happens to shepard and the future)


Oh no it's just restricted to Shep and the companions. Everyone else lives pretty decently depending on ending. ^_^

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vertibird1 wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

katerinafm wrote...

At least in DA2 Varric mentions that Hawke stays with his LI...XD


This. Hawke can barely do crap right other than fight, has his psycho companion blow up the Chantry, is a fugitive, has almost all his family die and he still gets a goddamn decent ending! Meanwhile Shep? Saves the galaxy and gets...those endings.

WTF? 

I dont want any spoilers but the bad endings you talk about. Is it just the way the Li endings are? or is it the entire ending thats bad (like what happens to shepard and the future)


this.  I don't want anything close to specifics, but is this furious raging basically because all the endings are grim and depressing?  Because if that's the case, I, personally don't think I'll have a problem with that.  I do, however, get that a lot of people would be upset if there was not even an option for a happy ending.

Edit: NVM, I saw the above post.  Thanks.

Modifié par jdunn1, 28 février 2012 - 08:51 .


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a) bad
B) worse
c) the worst
d) all of the above
e) d)e^100

It's e)

At least in my opinion Posted Image. M.

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jdunn1 wrote...

this.  I don't want anything close to specifics, but is this furious raging basically because all the endings are grim and depressing?  Because if that's the case, I, personally don't think I'll have a problem with that.  I do, however, get that a lot of people would be upset if there was not even an option for a happy ending.

Edit: NVM, I saw the above post.  Thanks.


Exactly. If this is the last ME game and everything is possible, then there shoud be cheesy-sweet endings, Galaxy explodes endings and everything in between... M.

Modifié par Frozen83, 28 février 2012 - 08:54 .


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Frozen83 wrote...

jdunn1 wrote...

this.  I don't want anything close to specifics, but is this furious raging basically because all the endings are grim and depressing?  Because if that's the case, I, personally don't think I'll have a problem with that.  I do, however, get that a lot of people would be upset if there was not even an option for a happy ending.

Edit: NVM, I saw the above post.  Thanks.


Exactly. If this is the last ME game and everything is possible, then there shoud be cheesy-sweet endings, Galaxy explodes endings and everything in between... M.


I agree.  I feel pretty bad for people who want the sunshine and daisies (I would probably want them in one of my eventual playthroughs also).  How sure are we that this info is accurate, tho?

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It is not over until the fat lady sings... I still hope BW did a good job and are just pouring the oil on the fire (in my language that is an expression, don't know if it is in English) with "spoilers" and "space discs"... Keeping us on high adrenaline... M.

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It all depends on your definition of what a happy ending is.

All I want from an ending is something that makes sense, in terms of all that went before. I don't need a happy ending. I don't need sailing into the sunset or laughter or everlasting love. I want the choices I made in previous games to matter. That's all.

And one other thing I want, specifically from what happens with LIs: I want everyone to be treated the same. I want every player's choice of romanceable character to matter just as much as everyone else's. I don't mind if my various Sheps don't get happy ever after with their LIs, in fact I'd be happiest if the cliche happy ever after was avoided. But regardless, I want everyone who plays the game, regardless of their romance choices, to feel like they count just as much as every other player. BW don't have a great track record with managing that, to date, in the ME series. These spoilers, if they are at all to be believed, seem to suggest that, for one reason or another, BW have managed to slight some of those players in favour of others, again. And that's a real shame.

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Frozen83 wrote...

Exactly. If this is the last ME game and everything is possible, then there shoud be cheesy-sweet endings, Galaxy explodes endings and everything in between... M.


Yeah I was hoping for some actual choice. The endings, if they are as they seem, feel like non-choices where I'm coming from. Not to mention I'm going through some crap in RL at the moment, so I need my escapism to be depressing like I need a hole in the head. On a brighter note, a lot of the stuff I've worried and complained about before doesn't seem to matter so much anymore. :D
Edit: Just to add; part of the reason why this sucks for me is about replayability - if this was a totally railroaded trilogy with a totally pre-defined protagonist and I'd only need to play it once, I might have less of a problem with it. But I've got about 5 different Sheps (and many people have more) and they're all apparently doomed with only slight variations. Right now it doesn't look like I'll be playing ME3 many times, at least not to the end.


Let's see if the spoiler color will work for me this time... it seems to.

Modifié par crayonsun, 28 février 2012 - 09:14 .


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catabuca wrote...

It all depends on your definition of what a happy ending is.

All I want from an ending is something that makes sense...
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Exactly! If I did A and B and C to ensure D in ME1 so that i can do E and F to ensure G in ME2, then, by the Godess Posted Image, I want a big F in ME3. And not everything to collapse into J or S or whatever... M.

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Oh wow. I feel a bit ill.

So I'm going to leave this thread now and pretend that all of this is lies and deceit. Ta!

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Hmm very interesting situation we got here.

When someone posted info about s/s LI and shut down as fast as lightining.

BSN flooding with game ending leaks, fate of characters and such and they are everywhere...

On top of everything most of the players raging/dissappointed with what they hear/read.

While what they hear/posted is ain't new (same as November leak) still I find it a bit funny S/S situation being more ban requiring/information hiding secret.

If you want to speculate, speculate this. Leave game ending, LI fates etc. to another topic.

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Pardon...but I'm not sure discussing the endings here is proper.

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Collider wrote...

Pardon...but I'm not sure discussing the endings here is proper.

Urhm this seriously, what is going on? The last 10 pages is one giant mega spoiler drop. I mean c'mon guys. I myself don't mind spoilers but many people try to avoid them. Spoiling s/s romances is one thing, spoiling the endings is another

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Yes, you're right. Sorry. (even if it seems connected in my head, but hen again, my mind works on a different fequency). Going to bed now. Have to work tomorrow. Need to finish my presentation. M.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Collider wrote...

Pardon...but I'm not sure discussing the endings here is proper.

Urhm this seriously, what is going on? The last 10 pages is one giant mega spoiler drop. I mean c'mon guys. I myself don't mind spoilers but many people try to avoid them. Spoiling s/s romances is one thing, spoiling the endings is another


To be honest, your subjected to these ending spoilers the second you click on BSN, and this thread is far from the worst offender. I wish that I'd stopped going on here already, becuase now I won't be able to enjoy playing ME3 becuase I'll be dreading the endings so much. <_<

Modifié par EJ107, 28 février 2012 - 09:37 .


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Sorry, yes, not the thread for this. I need to go sleep anyway.

I'm hoping for good VS/Vega s/s news when I get up at least!

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I don't believe it's possible to satisfactorily police threads like this any more, not so close to release. There are going to be people who talk about various spoilers, in various ways. Either because they maliciously want to upset people, or because their definition of what constitutes a spoiler is different to what someone else thinks is one.

We all know, from previous experience, that there WILL be spoilers all over BSN over the next week or so. It happens with DA2, it happened with ME2, it will always happen. Regulars in a thread can agree amongst themselves that they will try to maintain a certain standard, but I believe it's unrealistic to expect a spoiler-free zone anywhere, right now. That's just how the internet works.

The only way you can realistically keep yourself spoiler-free is by making sure you don't come to BSN for a while. Thread titles abound with spoiler info, and it'll only get worse. And in my opinion, it's only natural that people who mainly stick to one or two threads will want to talk about a variety of things in those threads. Especially something like the s/s thread. Over the past few years a community grew up around the subject, lots of people have become good friends, they recognise some names more than others, and for some threads like this one have provided a (mostly) safe haven for discussion and community. While it's admirable to try to keep discussion on track and somewhat relating to s/s issues, I believe people here can't be blamed for wanting to talk about wider issues, and in any case, for some people it's all tied together anyway, the fate of LIs and the fate of the ending of the game.

So we can continue to put out polite requests that people refrain from massive spoilers, and even from small spoilers, but at this point I think it's unrealistic to expect spoilers to not be touched on.

(And, as someone made clear earlier, the thread title says there may be spoilers here. It's safe to expect people coming to threads like this should exercise an amount of restraint if they don't want to be exposed to something they may regret reading.)

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Actually if you think we only heard endings(at least I) so maybe that lame sounding endings will make sense when you attach them to story. So you can find yourself prefering one. Just like Dragon Age: Origins, sacrificing yourself or your lover/best friend or dealing with devils sounds bad. However they looks so classy when you attach them to main story.

Anyway, let's hope that space guy soon find out if Kaidan is bi or not.

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EJ107, while I've been luckily unspoiled by any specifics, I'm sure that a grim ending is NOT the only possible one for ME3. The developers care just as much as the fans for the characters and the world of Mass Effect. With all the talk about Galactic Readiness, I get the impression that this final installment of ME3 will take a lot more work to get a happy ending than the previous two. I'm up for the challenge!

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Asperius wrote...

Hmm very interesting situation we got here.

When someone posted info about s/s LI and shut down as fast as lightining.

BSN flooding with game ending leaks, fate of characters and such and they are everywhere...

On top of everything most of the players raging/dissappointed with what they hear/read.

While what they hear/posted is ain't new (same as November leak) still I find it a bit funny S/S situation being more ban requiring/information hiding secret.

If you want to speculate, speculate this. Leave game ending, LI fates etc. to another topic.

ikr? Potential s/s LI info spreads and the giant hammer comes down. Endings get leaked and not a mod in sight. It's great to know where their priorities lie.

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Kemmer wrote...

EJ107, while I've been luckily unspoiled by any specifics, I'm sure that a grim ending is NOT the only possible one for ME3. The developers care just as much as the fans for the characters and the world of Mass Effect. With all the talk about Galactic Readiness, I get the impression that this final installment of ME3 will take a lot more work to get a happy ending than the previous two. I'm up for the challenge!


I'm not going to spoil anything for you, but apparently even the "best ending" is a huge downer that will leave many, many people unhappy. I'd consider it a "worst" ending in any other game. I'm not going into specifics but... yeah. 

Unfortunately it looks like this could be the real thing as well, and this really is the case. I don't want to try to go into denial or anything, but I seriously hope it's not true. So much for a good ending to one of my favourite series <_<

Modifié par EJ107, 28 février 2012 - 09:52 .