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shepskisaac

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catabuca wrote...

Extracted file information, in my opinion, is often misleading, because it rarely shows the whole picture.

I would agree, if it wasn't for the fact that Kaidan calls Shep handsome and that one Space Edition player (who took shirtless Kaidan pic) already unlocked Paramour Achievement for romancing Kaidan as ManShep

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Eternal Dust wrote...

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Back ON TOPIC: I sent a PM asking the guy who supposedly has the guide, and he claims the guide says Ashley goes both ways. However, I'm not believing that till I see some proof that he actually has the guide. I asked him for such, but I'm not particularly hopeful that it will pan out (though he did claim previously that he was going to post pictures).

All he needs is to post a picture of the guide with his name and things could very well go back into Uncertainty mode.


Maker no I couldn't handle it! :unsure:

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IsaacShep wrote...

catabuca wrote...

Extracted file information, in my opinion, is often misleading, because it rarely shows the whole picture.

I would agree, if it wasn't for the fact that Kaidan calls Shep handsome and that one Space Edition player (who took shirtless Kaidan pic) already unlocked Paramour Achievement for romancing Kaidan as ManShep


It's not just the handsome line. The entire conversation is very blatantly a mShep/Kaidan romance. Plus the whole "have you ever known me to be with anyone" and "it does feel right, after all this time" lines. Although, yeah, I guess one could argue Meer is reading Hale's lines again, but such a method is obsolete now.

Also of note is the lack of equivalent femShep dialogue BUT I have no idea who mined this and if it was set up that way on purpose.

Modifié par SolidBeast, 02 mars 2012 - 12:08 .


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I refuse to go into uncertainty mode. Im steadfast in my belief of Kaidan, my gut tells me its true :3

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You guys really like to drive yourself crazy with all these back-and-forth unconfirmed semi-confirmed plausibly-confirmed leaked spoiler rumors, eh? :whistle:

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While we're in uncertainty mode, I gotta say--I'm beginning to think that some stuff was blocked outta the Space Edition games, or wateva. Because BW knew it would get datamined. They knew this.

Kaidan is Bi, but Ash isn't?

The friendship paths are that lame? When BW went on and on abt. this improvement?

No....something is not right here.

oh, and this may have been posted already, but here's sum audio Kaidan dialogue bits. Ppl initially thought this was from ME1 and taken out. But later it was revealed that this is actually in the ME3 version:

tigerbun.tumblr.com/post/18548594193/scumbag-vanguard-morie91-kaidan-romance

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IsaacShep wrote...

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So far the only gender specific part of Kaidan's M/M romance seems to be substitution of "beautiful" with "handsome." Very underwhelming.

Enough for me. It's a clear and completly open exhibition on BioWare's part of the fact these are two guys romancing each other, not 2 guys with dialogues that could've been used on FemShep. Not to mention the entire scene is almost for sure exclusive to mShep


I can't remember what thread I was in, but one had a link with a writer who basically said that Bioware tries to write relationships and romances with as much room for head canon as possible. Far from being "easy" or the "lazy way out" that a lot of critics accuse DA2 of being, it sould incredibly difficult the more I think about it. That's why "gay mods" and, I assume "straight mods" for Sam and Steve, will appear to be nearly perfect fits.

All that's needed for a good Bioware romance is some catchy way for a LI to tell Shepard s/he likes/loves him and a love scene that doesn't produce facepalms.

Is Ashley looking for love or a good time? Is Merrill a virgin, or just merely shy when romancing a lover from another species? Is Miranda really attracted to Shepard, or merely feeding her ego by seducing great hero Shepard? Is Morrigan merely playing the Warden for a sucker or looking for redemption? Depending on the player, any of those situations can be true.

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IsaacShep wrote...

catabuca wrote...

Extracted file information, in my opinion, is often misleading, because it rarely shows the whole picture.

I would agree, if it wasn't for the fact that Kaidan calls Shep handsome and that one Space Edition player (who took shirtless Kaidan pic) already unlocked Paramour Achievement for romancing Kaidan as ManShep


Hold the phone - SHIRTLESS KAIDAN PIC?? where where! :wub:

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SolidBeast wrote...

Also of note is the lack of equivalent femShep dialogue BUT I have no idea who mined this and if it was set up that way on purpose.

Someone would have to be really determined to troll s/s fans. Considering how many different "renew/start romance" alternate lines Hale already reads, it's rather clear to me. And frankly, even if there was a FemShep equivalent of that dialogue, the fact remains that they would never write Kaidan to call FemShep handsome lol. That word really makes it all highly definitive.

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breyant wrote...

You guys really like to drive yourself crazy with all these back-and-forth unconfirmed semi-confirmed plausibly-confirmed leaked spoiler rumors, eh? :whistle:


You think THIS is bad, go back and start reading the Miranda thread from about the time the leaked script hit.

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IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Also of note is the lack of equivalent femShep dialogue BUT I have no idea who mined this and if it was set up that way on purpose.

Someone would have to be really determined to troll s/s fans. Considering how many different "renew/start romance" alternate lines Hale already reads, it's rather clear to me. And frankly, even if there was a FemShep equivalent of that dialogue, the fact remains that they would never write Kaidan to call FemShep handsome lol. That word really makes it all highly definitive.


Depends on who that someone is, obviously.

Yeah, but by femShep equivalent, I don't mean "identical", I mean "someone strong... beautiful" and what have you.

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makenzieshepard wrote...

Eternal Dust wrote...

ToastPants wrote...

Back ON TOPIC: I sent a PM asking the guy who supposedly has the guide, and he claims the guide says Ashley goes both ways. However, I'm not believing that till I see some proof that he actually has the guide. I asked him for such, but I'm not particularly hopeful that it will pan out (though he did claim previously that he was going to post pictures).

All he needs is to post a picture of the guide with his name and things could very well go back into Uncertainty mode.


Maker no I couldn't handle it! :unsure:


I'm getting better at Photoshop. I don't think even a scanned book will remove all doubt. Only six more days anyway.

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Abispa wrote...


You think THIS is bad, go back and start reading the Miranda thread from about the time the leaked script hit.


Wait... it got better? :blink:

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SolidBeast wrote...

Yeah, but by femShep equivalent, I don't mean "identical", I mean "someone strong... beautiful" and what have you.

But even if such line "someone strong... beautiful" exists (very unlikely considering ti ain't in the finished game) it doesn't change the fact the handsome line exist.

Egg on my face on Tuesday if it turns out not to be true, but at this point I'm personally just sure he is available for gay romance, with all evidence I've read/heard.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 02 mars 2012 - 12:19 .


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Lenimph wrote...

Abispa wrote...


You think THIS is bad, go back and start reading the Miranda thread from about the time the leaked script hit.


Wait... it got better? :blink:


There are a coulpe of regulars who say they don't want to read spoilers, yet keep asking those who've mined the spoilers to keep posting information on the thread. The aura of joy, rage, desperation, and uncertainty would be familiar to regulars of THIS thread. The only "certain" ones are those who were hoping for a lesbian Miranda.

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Abispa wrote...
I can't remember what thread I was in, but one had a link with a writer who basically said that Bioware tries to write relationships and romances with as much room for head canon as possible. Far from being "easy" or the "lazy way out" that a lot of critics accuse DA2 of being, it sould incredibly difficult the more I think about it. That's why "gay mods" and, I assume "straight mods" for Sam and Steve, will appear to be nearly perfect fits.


I can't wait for the Sheploo/Sam mods...seeing all the awkward clipping during the shower scene and him speaking with Hale's voice...it will be great.

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It is weird how, for me, the curiosity over if anyone else is available is overshadowed by the fear of an outburst of bigotry soon to happen again.

Well, not fear per se, more like pre-annoyance.

Modifié par Russalka, 02 mars 2012 - 12:22 .


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Since it just turned friday here in the uk, i have to ask, what was the schedule for today? xD

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Russalka wrote...

It is weird how, for me, the curiosity over if anyone else is available is overshadowed by the fear of an outburst of bigotry soon to happen again.


Already happened.

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jlb524 wrote...

Abispa wrote...
I can't remember what thread I was in, but one had a link with a writer who basically said that Bioware tries to write relationships and romances with as much room for head canon as possible. Far from being "easy" or the "lazy way out" that a lot of critics accuse DA2 of being, it sould incredibly difficult the more I think about it. That's why "gay mods" and, I assume "straight mods" for Sam and Steve, will appear to be nearly perfect fits.


I can't wait for the Sheploo/Sam mods...seeing all the awkward clipping during the shower scene and him speaking with Hale's voice...it will be great.


No more awkward than some of the ME2 scenes, including the clipping. Jack's especially.

As for the shower scene, the "beast with two backs" would become literal, I imagine.

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Russalka wrote...

It is weird how, for me, the curiosity over if anyone else is available is overshadowed by the fear of an outburst of bigotry soon to happen again.


Russalka, your avatar is absolutely fabulous.

outbursts...yeah. well, hell...eff 'em.

One grueling, baby step at a time to a better world. It's a painful and tedious process, no doubt. And scary, but what else are you going to do.

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IsaacShep wrote...

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Yeah, but by femShep equivalent, I don't mean "identical", I mean "someone strong... beautiful" and what have you.

But even if such line "someone strong... beautiful" exists (very unlikely considering ti ain't in the finished game) it doesn't change the fact the handsome line exist.

True that, I guess I was thinking more of the fact that they might still be the same scenes with minor adjustments and not something unique to manShep. Which is where my concern lies, really, not in whether Kaidan is bi, as the files for that are there. And to the "considering it ain't in the finished game" - that was my point. Who's to say whoever uploaded it didn't simply leave out the rest of the femShep files?

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jlb524 wrote...

Russalka wrote...

It is weird how, for me, the curiosity over if anyone else is available is overshadowed by the fear of an outburst of bigotry soon to happen again.


Already happened.


It even hit the news.



:whistle:

Modifié par Chun Hei, 02 mars 2012 - 12:36 .


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catabuca wrote...

I just thought you guys would get a kick out of this. I was playing around on http://uk.akinator.com/ and I was trying to think of Carth, and it guessed Kaidan.

I found it amusing.


....this is addictive. It guessed correctly on: Kaidan, Liara, Isabela, Tara from Buffy, Taylor Hanson, Road Dogg, Jane Rizzoli and when I tried to confuse it with Korean pop music, it guessed that correctly too (G Dragon). I beat it in the end, it isn't familiar with Japanese all female theatre :devil:

Gives me something to pass the time with whilst I lurk in various threads <_<

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Point of notice: there is a confirmed day 1 patch that is required to play the game. While there's a 99.9% chance it's just bug fixes and/or multiplayer crap, there's always the .1% chance they intentionally locked out bits of the game to troll pirates.

Again, long shot of all long shots and I'm not hopeful (I'm resigned about the game at this point), but who knows?