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Jilinna

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Remember how we were arguing over who the guy b/w Vega and Kaidan is in this screenshot from the trailer?

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Well I asked Walters on twitter and his answer was this...

@macwalterslives I saw this scene ow.ly/9qd9h from the launch trailer & was wondering who the person b/w Vega & Kaidan is? Thanks!

@JessieG27 I believe that's Major Coats. But you'll have to play to learn more about him ;) #ME3

https://twitter.com/...714660346105857

There you have it! I wonder who he is! Does his name sound familiar to anyone?

Modifié par Jilinna, 03 mars 2012 - 01:54 .


#22352
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SolidBeast wrote...

Same here. I just can't feel like it's real and in fact would probably keep imagining femShep in my Shepard's place.

Not to mention that she actually WOULD replace mShep in the sex scene...

Modifié par IsaacShep, 03 mars 2012 - 01:52 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Isn't it, well, canon, that Mordin is bi? He does say to mShep that "If intended to try human, would try you" right? xD


He's A+ sexually.


Fixed that for you.

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Jilinna wrote...

Remember how we were arguing over who the guy b/w Vega and Kaidan is in this screenshot from the trailer?

Posted Image


Well I asked Walters on twiiter and his answer was this...

@macwalterslives I saw this scene ow.ly/9qd9h from the launch trailer & was wondering who the person b/w Vega & Kaidan is? Thanks!

@JessieG27 I believe that's Major Coats. But you'll have to play to learn more about him ;) #ME3

There you have it! I wonder who he is! Does his name sound familiar to anyone?


Haha, I love how inquisitive you are. ^_^ I knew he wasn't a random!

@IsaacShep - yeah, that and the feeling of Kaidan thinking he's romancing a femShep. "He has no idea". :crying:

Modifié par SolidBeast, 03 mars 2012 - 01:55 .


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SolidBeast wrote...
@IsaacShep - yeah, that and the feeling of Kaidan thinking he's romancing a femShep. "He has no idea". :crying:

He does now! :devil: And in his own words, this idea is very HANDSOME :wub:

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I've also never tried to mod in gay romance. I wouldn't be able to pretend that it was actually something that was really happening in the game (knowing that it's all content predicated on female Shepard), and I wouldn't ever believe that whatever reaction VS had in ME2 was actually genuine and not just illicit flags.

RomanDark wrote...

I'm not sure how reproduction(or sex)

I don't think they could reproduce (probably you couldn't cross-species fertilize).

But they might have penis/vagina, so I imagine sex could just be whatever. But if that's your thing, probably you'd have an easier time just having a swim in a pond somewhere.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Personally, I never played modded Shep. Missing lines and the fact my Shep would be referred to as a female would remind me constantly this is just modded, "cheated" romance with Kaidan. So I'm super happy this is now trully happening! :o


Yes, I had to gloss over the parts where my MShep was addressed as "Ma'am' by his crew and referred to as 'she' in dialog between squadmates, not to mention the infamous cutscene pre-Ilos where he turns curvier and sports a pair of boadacious ta-ta's Posted Image

Playing Dragon Age Origins modded so my male rogue Warden could romance and marry Alistair was a bigger kick. I busted out laughing the first time he was introduced to the people of Ferelden as 'your new Queen'.

I was like, "Fereldens, if you only knew...." Posted Image

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Jilinna wrote...

Remember how we were arguing over who the guy b/w Vega and Kaidan is in this screenshot from the trailer?

Posted Image


Well I asked Walters on twitter and his answer was this...

@macwalterslives I saw this scene ow.ly/9qd9h from the launch trailer & was wondering who the person b/w Vega & Kaidan is? Thanks!

@JessieG27 I believe that's Major Coats. But you'll have to play to learn more about him ;) #ME3

https://twitter.com/...714660346105857

There you have it! I wonder who he is! Does his name sound familiar to anyone?


Maybe he is the sniper in Big Ben? But since we know his name that begs a question.

S/s LI "fling"? A m/m fling to make up for the two f/f flings in the game? Or do you want a meaningful relationship?

B)

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IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Same here. I just can't feel like it's real and in fact would probably keep imagining femShep in my Shepard's place.

Not to mention that she actually WOULD replace mShep in the sex scene...


I'm sure at several points maleshep speaks with femsheps voice too. I tried about an hour of it and just couldn't get over it. Only for Alistair <3

S/S romances for ME3 were confirmed like, the next day or something so I figured it wasn't worth it.

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IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...
@IsaacShep - yeah, that and the feeling of Kaidan thinking he's romancing a femShep. "He has no idea". :crying:

He does now! :devil: And in his own words, this idea is very HANDSOME :wub:


Still hoping there's no femShep equivalent of that line.
And the way he says "....Someone?" :wub:

#22361
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I've played once with a modded Shep but it just felt really wrong and like you guys said, like it was cheating. I do have the save, but I don't consider it a serious one. Don't even need it now >:)

Do we know what are the differences between femShep and mShep that start a new romance with Kaidan? Dialogue wise?

Modifié par katerinafm, 03 mars 2012 - 02:05 .


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SolidBeast wrote...

Still hoping there's no femShep equivalent of that line.
And the way he says "....Someone?" :wub:

I'm 99.9999999% sure there isn't. Hale doesn't even have lines for this dialogue.

#22363
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Wait Ash isn't s/s? I thought that the game was exactly the same as the leaked script and there seemed to be femshep/ashley in the script.
Shepard: This is a nice spot, Ash.

Ashley: Yeah. All the shuttles zipping around reminds me of when my Dad would get ready to ship out. My mom would bundle us all up, buy us ice cream, and cart us out to the shipyard to watch his transport depart. I still have to resist waving every time a big Alliance ship flies by.

Shepard: You should bring Sarah up here.
Ashley: I will. When she's ready. She'll like the quiet. She wasn't the loud tomboy crashing around like I was.

Shepard: Sounds like you were a handfull.

Ashley: Maybe. My dad got me. Shame you never met him. He would have liked you.

Shepard: You think so?

Ashley: I do. He would have liked you.

Shepard: A badass military woman?

Ashley: Definitely. He would have tried to use his Irresistible Williams Charm on you.

Shepard: Career military man?
Ashley: Yeah. He would have invited you over, cooked you something on the grill, and talked your ear off.

Shepard: That sounds great, Ash. But right now, I can't focus on anything but you.

Ashley: Well now. Those big, powerful Citadel arms giving you ideas, Commander?

We had something before... a long time ago. Something important.

You've seen me at my worst. Totally embarrassing.

I've... held a gun on you, Shepard.

Just had to kill the moment, didn't you?

So that's a romance dialouge and the bolded line shows femshep can/could have this conversation. So either it's cut or something else.

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Awesomness wrote...

Wait Ash isn't s/s? I thought that the game was exactly the same as the leaked script and there seemed to be femshep/ashley in the script.


We are pretty sure she is NOT s/s but there is a SLIGHT hope that she is. Maybe there were plans at one point but if there were and she is NOT s/s then that means Bioware dropped her for some reason. Maybe because of that reporter chick?

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bleetman wrote...

Urgh. See this? This is why I like the "s/s for everybody!" option. Everybody effectively gets what they want, and nobody gets disappointed.

Well, unless you're one of those "multiple s/s people in one game? MY IMMERSION, IT IS BROKEN" types, I guess.

Ah well. Moderately disappointed myself, with a dash of "now you start deciding the virmire survivors are different people? And only in this specific regard?" for seasoning. I'm currently three for zero on 'female characters I strongly liked and consequently hoped for being available', so yes, going to be disappointed by that. However many options my femshep might otherwise have is largely irrevlevant, because as much as I support including s/s romances as a whole, my support has never really been about that it its core. It's been about wanting to take a particular character narrative path with those characters I personally enjoy the most.

So, disappointing. And not surprising or unreasonable disappointment, I'd say.



Thats exactly right, its quite reasonable to hope that logic would prevail here as it has in so many other games now.  Arguing over which characters should be straight/gay/bi is so completely absurd when you consider that it is actually easier for them to just make them all available to everyone, and then everybody gets what they want.  Whether you're looking at Dragon Age 2, Fallout New Vegas, Skyrim, or of course the Sims (and who knows how many other games also fall into that category) games are definitely going the 'all available' route more and more, and if they're all available that doesnt mean 'they're all bi', it just means they're whatever you want them to be.  That means that everybody gets what they want, and everybody wins.  Picking winners and losers when its so easy for everybody to be winners means that you're just picking losers, and why would anybody want to do that?  Im quite confident that if/when my FemShep romances Samantha, I won't be thinking 'this is an awesome romance because MaleShep players cant play it!', any more than I was thinking 'This romance with Leliana would've been great, but darn it male wardens can play it too, so it sucks', thats just crazy.  There's literally nothing to be gained by preventing people from doing the romances they want, it doesnt make them better in any way for the folks who are still allowed to play them.  Hopefully in the future the ME series will go the way of DA and a lot of other game series out there these days, and just let us romance who we want, that way everybody is happy and everybody wins.  I guess the only downside would be that we'd all have to find something else a lot less interesting to argue about :) .

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IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

Still hoping there's no femShep equivalent of that line.
And the way he says "....Someone?" :wub:

I'm 99.9999999% sure there isn't. Hale doesn't even have lines for this dialogue.


I really really really hope you're right.

@Awesomness - I'm pretty sure those lines are jumbled up and that's not how the conversation really goes.

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Awesomness wrote...

Wait Ash isn't s/s? I thought that the game was exactly the same as the leaked script and there seemed to be femshep/ashley in the script.
Shepard: This is a nice spot, Ash.

Ashley: Yeah. All the shuttles zipping around reminds me of when my Dad would get ready to ship out. My mom would bundle us all up, buy us ice cream, and cart us out to the shipyard to watch his transport depart. I still have to resist waving every time a big Alliance ship flies by.

Shepard: You should bring Sarah up here.
Ashley: I will. When she's ready. She'll like the quiet. She wasn't the loud tomboy crashing around like I was.

Shepard: Sounds like you were a handfull.

Ashley: Maybe. My dad got me. Shame you never met him. He would have liked you.

Shepard: You think so?

Ashley: I do. He would have liked you.

Shepard: A badass military woman?

Ashley: Definitely. He would have tried to use his Irresistible Williams Charm on you.

Shepard: Career military man?
Ashley: Yeah. He would have invited you over, cooked you something on the grill, and talked your ear off.

Shepard: That sounds great, Ash. But right now, I can't focus on anything but you.

Ashley: Well now. Those big, powerful Citadel arms giving you ideas, Commander?

We had something before... a long time ago. Something important.

You've seen me at my worst. Totally embarrassing.

I've... held a gun on you, Shepard.

Just had to kill the moment, didn't you?

So that's a romance dialouge and the bolded line shows femshep can/could have this conversation. So either it's cut or something else.


I think I stumbled across lines like these in the .tlk a little while ago, but I had no idea what I was doing, and I had no idea if they were even relevant.  Couldn't it still just be cut dialogue?

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Hey does anyone still have the link to the Shepard and Cortez scene? My friend was late to the party and didn't get to see.

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I just started a Major Coats support thread. I have NO idea where it is going but feel free to post your ideas and hopes for his role and future.

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SolidBeast wrote...

@Awesomness - I'm pretty sure those lines are jumbled up and that's not how the conversation really goes.

I think this dialogue is part of the dinner scene, alternate for ManShep in place of FemShep's multiple "starting/renewing romance" lines. So some dialogues will be the same for ManShep & FemShep (like IDK, Kaidan talkign about wine lol), but his "confession" and the way they start romance will be different

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Chun Hei wrote...

I just started a Major Coats support thread. I have NO idea where it is going but feel free to post your ideas and hopes for his role and future.


LOL! You are too awesome! We shall speculate on his romantic involvement with Shepard? Excellent :devil:

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IsaacShep wrote...

SolidBeast wrote...

@Awesomness - I'm pretty sure those lines are jumbled up and that's not how the conversation really goes.

I think this dialogue is part of the dinner scene, alternate for ManShep in place of FemShep's multiple "starting/renewing romance" lines. So some dialogues will be the same for ManShep & FemShep (like IDK, Kaidan talkign about wine lol), but his "confession" and the way they start romance will be different


I'm talking about the Ashley dialogue Awesomness posted. :P

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ilanaisatree wrote...

Awesomness wrote...

<snipped Ash/Femshep lines?>

So that's a romance dialouge and the bolded line shows femshep can/could have this conversation. So either it's cut or something else.


I think I stumbled across lines like these in the .tlk a little while ago, but I had no idea what I was doing, and I had no idea if they were even relevant.  Couldn't it still just be cut dialogue?


Don't toy with our fragile emotions, even at this point there is still enough heart left to break :crying:

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SolidBeast wrote...

I'm talking about the Ashley dialogue Awesomness posted. :P

nvm then xD

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Chun Hei wrote...

 there were plans at one point but if there were and she is NOT s/s then that means Bioware dropped her for some reason. Maybe because of that reporter chick?


I think Ash might have been cut because I thought the prevailing speculation during the leaked script era was that Diana Allers was for heterosexual MShep only. 

But--that's just speculation.  It's hard to tell and judge.