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[Abispa]

ToastPants wrote...

So, guys. According to Priestly no romances were ever cut from the game. If romances aren't there they never were.

Which makes that femshep/Ashley dialogue about ten time more confusing.

I'm sure there was brain-storming and early scripts exploring the concept of a s/s Ashley, but he could still be telling the truth that it never existed because it never left the drawing board or got recorded.

[MACharlie1]

Abispa wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I don't buy it. IGN probably threw Bioware some cash to plug Allers in. I wouldn't be surprised if Allers worked for a news agency that is called IGN.

<_<

Even if that were true, Bioware and EA still had to agree to put her in, and there's no evidence that SHE is the reason Ashley isn't s/s LI. I would be shocked, however, if Bioware made her "bi" without her conscent.

Hmm. Too bad I didn't get to do a shower scene with Shepard...

...Or Wrex or the Krogan princess...

Oh I know. I just don't like product placement...unless it's done facetiously. 

[devSin]

Abispa wrote...

It is on topic and it helps to remind us just how much Bioware and s/s supporters have to put up with in producing a handful of OPTIONAL m/m LIs in a RPG.

I don't dispute that. I'm just not sure it's noteworthy that this is how some people were going to respond.

Unless it was truly expected that things would somehow be different this time, but was anybody even expecting that?

I don't know. I just don't like to see people like that taken seriously, even if the reality is that you have to deal with their hatred.

ToastPants wrote...

So, guys. According to Priestly no romances were ever cut from the game. If romances aren't there they never were.

Cut is an ambiguous term.

I'm pretty sure that if he said it he means that no romance was ever implemented and then cut. There could have been lines written or options explored, but in the end they chose not to go through with it (not to say they ever planned or even considered such a thing).

But unused dialogue is not the same as an implemented romance that was later removed.

[Eternal Dust]

MACharlie1 wrote...

Abispa wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I don't buy it. IGN probably threw Bioware some cash to plug Allers in. I wouldn't be surprised if Allers worked for a news agency that is called IGN.

<_<

Even if that were true, Bioware and EA still had to agree to put her in, and there's no evidence that SHE is the reason Ashley isn't s/s LI. I would be shocked, however, if Bioware made her "bi" without her conscent.

Hmm. Too bad I didn't get to do a shower scene with Shepard...

...Or Wrex or the Krogan princess...

Oh I know. I just don't like product placement...unless it's done facetiously. 

Goddamn it, I LOVE YOU, TINA FEY! <3

[Espurr]

Fair point, though I personally would consider removing something from the script cutting it. I guess that definition is fairly open to interpretation.

Do they never revise the TLK files over the course of development? I don't really know much about those things (or what a tlk even is besides a vague script of sorts).

Edit: just had someone tell me the "date" audio exists. Interesting. Not getting my hopes up though.

Modifié par ToastPants, 03 mars 2012 - 06:34 .

[GPjessica73]

ToastPants wrote...

Fair point, though I personally would consider removing something from the script cutting it. I guess that definition is fairly open to interpretation.

Do they never revise the TLK files over the course of development? I don't really know much about those things (or what a tlk even is besides a vague script of sorts).

Edit: just had someone tell me the "date" audio exists. Interesting. Not getting my hopes up though.

oh my god, my heart can't take this roller coaster much longer

[Abispa]

It could be just girlFRIENDS going out on a date.

Mine goes out with the girls often enough. Many bills go missing from my wallet.

If so, I will feel a little better since it looked for a while that even the FRIENDSHIP content was low for female Shepard. If she can have a full friendship, at least, I would feel better since that last spoiler. If it turns out she is a s/s LI, I will be happy for her s/s fans and plug my ears from the squees.

Modifié par Abispa, 03 mars 2012 - 06:42 .

[Eternal Dust]

GPjessica73 wrote...

ToastPants wrote...

Fair point, though I personally would consider removing something from the script cutting it. I guess that definition is fairly open to interpretation.

Do they never revise the TLK files over the course of development? I don't really know much about those things (or what a tlk even is besides a vague script of sorts).

Edit: just had someone tell me the "date" audio exists. Interesting. Not getting my hopes up though.

oh my god, my heart can't take this roller coaster much longer

Sorry guys, the "date" is just a mutal girls hanging out and talking over a beer thing. Hale does not say anything flirty or relationshippy to Ashley at all. Meer is the only who recorded lines like "I care about you, Ash" and "I want us to be more."

I know, it sucks so bad.

[Espurr]

Aaaaaand hopes dashed again

[GPjessica73]

*flips table* back to being vaguely disinterested in the game again

[shepskisaac]

Listened to Ash dialogues myself. Yeah :/ That "badass woman/dad would've liked you" dialogue from previous page? It's in the game, but it was misinterpreted because of some romance lines following it in the script. These following romance lines are for continued romance from ME1. New romance has completely different lines and is started by Shep and Ash is surprised blah blah. And it's part of bigger "hanging out on Citadel with Ash" scene. It can be either friendship stuff, or romantic (Kaidan has friendship dialogues during the dinner with Shep too, for both genders). So unfortunately they never planned s/s romance for Ash in ME3

Modifié par IsaacShep, 03 mars 2012 - 07:18 .

[Zjarcal]

ToastPants wrote...

Aaaaaand hopes dashed again

You guys really need to stop torturing yourselves... think about happy friend stuff with her instead to feel better.

[GPjessica73]

hmph, guess I'll have to get it on PC, and get the inevitable mod

Where's that hat for the "Hire Jen to fix Bioware's ****ups fund" ?

[Eternal Dust]

GPjessica73 wrote...

hmph, guess I'll have to get it on PC, and get the inevitable mod

Where's that hat for the "Hire Jen to fix Bioware's ****ups fund" ?

It's currently busy for funding Conrad Verner to fix the endings

[Sherbet Lemon]

Abispa wrote...

If so, I will feel a little better since it looked for a while that even the FRIENDSHIP content was low for female Shepard.

This was my concern also, but I'm glad friendship stuff really is present. 

AHHHHH! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE WEEKEND TO END!!!

I think that might have been the first time I've ever said that in my life! lol

[GPjessica73]

Eternal Dust wrote...
It's currently busy for funding Conrad Verner to fix the endings

 I'll be happy to contribute to that too


At least there seems to be an actual friendship line then, which is good. I can fill in the rest in my head till the mod.

[Eternal Dust]

GPjessica73 wrote...

Eternal Dust wrote...
It's currently busy for funding Conrad Verner to fix the endings

 I'll be happy to contribute to that too


At least there seems to be an actual friendship line then, which is good. I can fill in the rest in my head till the mod.

If the funding thing doesn't work out, we could always, like, put together bits and pieces of Hale's line from other media. I mean, FemShep might end up sounding 1/4 Bastila Shan, 1/4 Naomi Hunter, and 1/4 Cinderella, and 1/4 Jean Grey, but IT COULD WORK!

[shepskisaac]

Eternal Dust wrote...

If the funding thing doesn't work out, we could always, like, put together bits and pieces of Hale's line from other media. I mean, FemShep might end up sounding 1/4 Bastila Shan, 1/4 Naomi Hunter, and 1/4 Cinderella, and 1/4 Jean Grey, but IT COULD WORK!

ME games themselves have enough Hale lines that you should be able to put together most lines you could come up with. It can be done and it can sound fully professional. I remember when KOTOR 2 modders did it for (cancelled) M4-78 mod. They put together a copule of new lines for Atton so well you couldn't tell it was fake. But it's a VERY hard thing to do, requires insane amount of patience and perfectionism. 

Modifié par IsaacShep, 03 mars 2012 - 07:53 .

[Maugrim]

Eternal Dust wrote...

GPjessica73 wrote...

Eternal Dust wrote...
It's currently busy for funding Conrad Verner to fix the endings

 I'll be happy to contribute to that too


At least there seems to be an actual friendship line then, which is good. I can fill in the rest in my head till the mod.

If the funding thing doesn't work out, we could always, like, put together bits and pieces of Hale's line from other media. I mean, FemShep might end up sounding 1/4 Bastila Shan, 1/4 Naomi Hunter, and 1/4 Cinderella, and 1/4 Jean Grey, but IT COULD WORK!

Wait a minute, I fail to see the problem here....

But yes all my money for this!

[Criz]

or you hope the gender specific dialog isn't too much and transgender an ME1 Shepard and bring her/him all the way to ME3
erm, if you're playing on PC that is

even with mShep/Kaidan in ME3 I'll do that eventually just to see if it works at all and how it works out

[shepskisaac]

Criz-Zone wrote...

even with mShep/Kaidan in ME3 I'll do that eventually just to see if it works at all and how it works out

At best the dialogues will be completly silent. This time Hale & Meer didn't record worng-gender lines. It's pobably due to both this Veta-something software and s/s romances I think, especially with cases like Kaidan where flags could get heavily messed up with all the variables

Modifié par IsaacShep, 03 mars 2012 - 08:15 .

[devSin]

IsaacShep wrote...

At best the dialogues will be completly silent. This time Hale & Meer didn't record worng-gender lines. It's pobably due to both this Veta-something software and s/s romances I think, especially with cases like Kaidan where flags could get heavily messed up with all the variables

It would be cool if it loaded the lips for female Shepard's lines, so in addition to silent Shepard, he'd silently flap his gums during the conversations.

[LukaCrosszeria]

BobbyTheI wrote...

(snip) 

That's it, I'm going pm a mod about everyone who spoils the end of the game in a s/s discussion thread, starting with you. Don't you have a shred of consideration?

edit: This thread has a spoiler warning, I know that, but there is a big difference between getting spoilers as to who the s/s romances are instead of having their romances + the game ending just put right there in a post by people who can't even be bothered to hide the information. Maybe put, oh, I don't know, SPOILER on the post if you can't figure out how to hide your text.

Modifié par LukaCrosszeria, 03 mars 2012 - 09:11 .

[Criz]

IsaacShep wrote...

Criz-Zone wrote...

even with mShep/Kaidan in ME3 I'll do that eventually just to see if it works at all and how it works out

At best the dialogues will be completly silent. This time Hale & Meer didn't record worng-gender lines. It's pobably due to both this Veta-something software and s/s romances I think, especially with cases like Kaidan where flags could get heavily messed up with all the variables

wait? what?
aww man, is there any confirmation that they didn't record all the lines or are you just assuming based on how Veta-Schmeta supposedly works?

[Collider]

They aren't in the game.