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[Game_Fan_85]

Referring to the "why didn't you wake me" line, I have a question for all the Kaidan s/s fans I am curious about. It may contain slight spoilers so be warned, don't read if you have not finished the game....





The line makes it obvious that they had been together before the love scene at the end, we just don't get to see it, must be those "benefits" he mentioned at lunch    With this in mind, would it be better to experience their first time together in the game or is it more fitting to see their *final* night together? I thought about this a lot and I can't quite decide. Their first time together, seeing as it was so long in coming, would have been great but with the way the game ends, the fact that it really was their final night together made it a bit more touching after the fact. I absolutely loved the goodbye kiss too, even though Kaidan went into battle with Shepard during the last battle. The fact that Kaidan seemed so smiley and happy stepping off the Normandy before the credits really annoyed me though. Shepard had just been blown to a billion bits on the Citadel and he was no stranded on some jungle planet, what the hell was he so happy about?

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 10 mars 2012 - 05:42 .

[Daashi]

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

p.s What is the code to hide spoilers?

[ / color = #333333] text [ / color] just without spaces.

Modifié par Daashi, 10 mars 2012 - 05:17 .

[HopHazzard]

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

I didn't get the "why didn't you wake me?". When does he say that?

It was one of the random non interactive conversations in the observation deck.  I can't remember exactly when it happened, but it was probably a good few missions after the romance started.  I spoke to all characters after every mission, if you speak to him every time, you should hear it eventually. 

Thanks. I'll keep an ear out for it next time.

HopHazzard wrote...

If you complete his friendship or romance him, he survives the shuttle crash.

Game_Fan_85 wrote.. 
Very happy to hear that!  Someone in another thread told me he dies at the end and it was made clear.  I was confussed because he got shot down at the end but was fine.  I even had the farewell speech with him before the big battle.  Shame it's only via the holographic thingy.  I guess it wont be as sweet and tear inducing as Kaidan's was.  Well it may be, just not physical.

May be even more tear inducing when you consider that they want to kiss good-bye like Shep and Kaidan did but can't.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 10 mars 2012 - 05:39 .

[SierraGHOSTN7]

Daashi wrote...

Astaiir wrote...

And about the endings... I was actually pretty satisfied with the ending. I was into destroying Reapers and Shepard sacrificing. And it did. Pity Relays got destroyed.
Now I wish they'd do more DLCs.

You were happy with then endings?  Every part of all endings?

Spoilers
The most I found jarring was the Normandy part of the endings. Why is the Normandy going through a mass relay, shouldn't it have been at Earth? And how did the crew get onto the Normandy when they were on Earth fighting? Just didn't make sense.

And the epilogue of the "Destroy" and "Control" choice, it was like watching a movie, where the main character has this amazing adventure, just to realize at the end that it didn't really happen, because before the beginning of the movie they fell asleep or something. Yeah, like a said jarring, and totally not to my liking.

Spoilers and my anwser

Well, I didn't really like the epilogue. But I liked the final overal. How epic the fight for earth was. Fighting for earth, from husks, from Reapers(i kinda epxected more to hear form Harbinger, like more fight or something, we seen him for a minute, literally)... How Shepard said goodbye to all the squadmates. Then, how Anderson died, saying Shepard made him proud... To be honest, I was crying. Then how they sat together and looked at Earth. Then, how Sheaprd chose the 'destroy' option, without any doubt, not caring about own life and having flashbacks.
And if you did everything right, you got the short cutscene, where it shows Shepard survived, among ruins. I wish they shown more of this.

About the Joker and Normandy, I can't really say why was Normandy in the Relay, not on Earth. I can't figure it myself too. Maybe they wanted to get as far as possible from Relays and the 'destroy-wave' to save EDI and Normandy and everything else? Or maybe they were heading to Earth? I don't know. I hope they'll give us many DLCs. I have really no problem paying more. Those games were epic experience.

But the epilogue, I just interpreted it not as a story, but when humanity survived, Shepard became a legend. Next generations lived with this and even if they couldn't go to stars yet, everyone knew what happened, what Shepard achieved and sacrificed. That the Stargazer - the old man was telling the kid what happened, how they were saved.
I know that 'tell me another story about Shepard', said by the kid can be that it was just a bed-time story. I just wanted it to interpret like I did, because it sounds more epic. Like, giving justice to Shepard.
 

I dunno, but when I played the game, all the games, all Mass Effect games, I somehow felt the character, like it was me. I hope I wasn't alone. But because of this this whole experience was SO INTENSE.

[ElitePinecone]

Reyno411 wrote...

I think you're meant to choose Joker. Joker is apparently a better pilot than Steve. 

Edit: No, I haven't actually played this - was going off the November leaked beta script.

It seems they changed that scene?

Okay, a friend-ed or romanced Steve it is then?

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 10 mars 2012 - 05:44 .

[ElitePinecone]

Daashi wrote...
We only get three and they suck!

There are actually seven if you count all the variations. Bioware did make it clear in their interviews that they were counting the fate of Earth as an ending factor, so... yeah, seven.

Not that there's much to differentiate them. 

Astaiir wrote...
There is 4th ending.
*spoiler*

 

You can get that on a first playthrough with enough war assets.

The guidebook said NG+ (re-imported) saves would have access to another secret ending.

This doesn't seem to exist, or they were just referring to the best outcome of the Destroy ending, which is still awful and stupid. 

[noxsachi]

Astaiir wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Astaiir wrote...

And about the endings... I was actually pretty satisfied with the ending. I was into destroying Reapers and Shepard sacrificing. And it did. Pity Relays got destroyed.
Now I wish they'd do more DLCs.

You were happy with then endings?  Every part of all endings?

Spoilers
The most I found jarring was the Normandy part of the endings. Why is the Normandy going through a mass relay, shouldn't it have been at Earth? And how did the crew get onto the Normandy when they were on Earth fighting? Just didn't make sense.

And the epilogue of the "Destroy" and "Control" choice, it was like watching a movie, where the main character has this amazing adventure, just to realize at the end that it didn't really happen, because before the beginning of the movie they fell asleep or something. Yeah, like a said jarring, and totally not to my liking.

Spoilers and my anwser

Well, I didn't really like the epilogue. But I liked the final overal. How epic the fight for earth was. Fighting for earth, from husks, from Reapers(i kinda epxected more to hear form Harbinger, like more fight or something, we seen him for a minute, literally)... How Shepard said goodbye to all the squadmates. Then, how Anderson died, saying Shepard made him proud... To be honest, I was crying. Then how they sat together and looked at Earth. Then, how Sheaprd chose the 'destroy' option, without any doubt, not caring about own life and having flashbacks.
And if you did everything right, you got the short cutscene, where it shows Shepard survived, among ruins. I wish they shown more of this.

About the Joker and Normandy, I can't really say why was Normandy in the Relay, not on Earth. I can't figure it myself too. Maybe they wanted to get as far as possible from Relays and the 'destroy-wave' to save EDI and Normandy and everything else? Or maybe they were heading to Earth? I don't know. I hope they'll give us many DLCs. I have really no problem paying more. Those games were epic experience.

But the epilogue, I just interpreted it not as a story, but when humanity survived, Shepard became a legend. Next generations lived with this and even if they couldn't go to stars yet, everyone knew what happened, what Shepard achieved and sacrificed. That the Stargazer - the old man was telling the kid what happened, how they were saved.
I know that 'tell me another story about Shepard', said by the kid can be that it was just a bed-time story. I just wanted it to interpret like I did, because it sounds more epic. Like, giving justice to Shepard.
 

I dunno, but when I played the game, all the games, all Mass Effect games, I somehow felt the character, like it was me. I hope I wasn't alone. But because of this this whole experience was SO INTENSE.

Ending stuff
I do agree that pretty much everything before going to talk with the Guardian was amazing. Pretty much everything about the game up until then was great. The Guardian just ruins the reapers, and the fact that all the ending choices are so similar and depressing...it really hurts. 

The Normandy part was so stupid it is almost not worth talking about, if you want her to crash, make her crash on Earth damn it.

I am interested in why you liked the Stargazer, because that to me was the final sucker punch in a series of sucker punches provided by the ending. I certainly respect that they got Niel Armstrong to do the voice, but just implying all three games were a story, told by someone we have no idea about? Just frankly it disgusted me. If you wanted to do the DAII thing, it should have been an old Liara or Wrex, make use of their thousand year lifespan. Thankfully it is an after the credit thing so it is easier for me to pretend it doesn't exist...the Guardian and the choices though. Ugh.
Also yeah Ending variation does not exist. They might have different implications, but nothing is explained, and the cutscene is virtually the same. There is one ending, and it is ****ing depressing.

Modifié par noxsachi, 10 mars 2012 - 05:49 .

[Quething]

Daashi wrote...

I wasn't creating arguments, I was merely stating that whatever happens, whatever choices are made for the story, there will always be someone who is unhappy and complaing about it.

... so what?

No. Honestly. So what?

I've never understood this argument and I never will. It's so meaningless. "You'll never be happy! Why should I even try!" It's empty defensivenss coming from a company, who at least have the excuse that yes, it's natural for the human brain to categorize a large mass of people as a single entity and thus multiple different people on a forum with consistent but opposing opinions can create an impression of hypocrisy and unpleasability. They should still know better. So imagine how much more so it becomes as a way for other fans to try to ad hominem away each other's arguments. You're not even the one trying to make people happy or sell a product. What exactly does patronizing dismissal of legitimate discussion and criticism by dissatisfied peers get you?

Yes, you can't please all of the people all of the time. Yes, if Ash was implemented as s/s, you'd probably get a small minority of people whining about it. Just like there's a small minority somewhere whining about Kaidan's s/s inclusion. Obviously, those of us who wanted Ash would not be among them, so what relevance does that have to our disappointment and upset? None whatsoever.

Honestly. If "some people won't be happy no matter what you do" were a meaningful guideline for game development people simply wouldn't make games.

Modifié par Quething, 10 mars 2012 - 05:54 .

[ScrabbleIsFun]

Ok, so I've been lurking here for ages, and finally wanted to pop in and contribute a bit to the discussion. I'm not one for posting on message boards, as I mostly like reading what other people have to say, and get embarrassed when I say anything myself, but for once I felt like chiming in a bit.

First off I just want to congratulate all the Kaidan fans on finally getting their man!! I'm so happy for all of you, I truly am. You've waited and waited and waited, put up with all the agony of searching for info and confirmation, getting trolled a number of times, and now it must be all the sweeter (just ignore the end of the game, lol). So props to all of you for waiting it out and getting the win at the end. My super renegade Shepard loves her Kaidan, and I'm glad all of you get to have him now too. And Cortez is great too! I was really pleasantly surprised they were able to intro a character in the last part that I took to so well so quickly.

I was one of those huge Ash fans waiting for her to be bi in ME3 to no avail. I guess it just stings because the s/s Ash and Kaidan fans have lived for the same amount of time with the hope that they might eventually be available, and both had the ability to play through ME 1+2 with the mods that made the romances feel legit. Then only half of us got the one character that they really wanted since the beginning. Sure, Liara is a full-fledged LI, and I don't care about the whole human/alien/asari stuff (even though I know some do, that's not an issue for me), but she's not the one that we wanted. Then factor in all the leaks and multiple sources claiming that the VS would be bi...that then turned out to not be true, and it just made it that much harder. So the guys got the payoff in the end but for the girls it was eh, if you didn't like Liara since Sam's path was lacking and Kelly's barely there. Since the s/s base is smaller to begin with, to me, it was more about getting the char we wanted than having more options, quality over quantity, yada yada. I know that devs can't (and shouldn't) try to please the wants and desires of everyone, but if one VS is bi then...Well I don't want to get in a huge debate about it, but to me it would feel right for the character and what they had been through with Shep.

Personally, I really liked Samantha, but like others, I thought the romance was rushed. Her last 2 scenes were excellent, and both VAs really brought it and delivered some fantastic work. But before those, it was lacking, so in a way it was harder to buy the deeper emotion being presented. The first scene with the shower scene was disastrous, absolutely jarring. There'd been minimal flirting/conversation to show any interest, and less than a minute after her getting to the cabin you're showering with her? Ugh. The first time I did it, I had to reload a couple missions afterwards because the more I thought about it, the more it just felt...wrong. Then of course by the end I just went and did it because I was too heartbroken over the fact my poor Shepard would be alone through all 3 games.

Wow, so um, that's my 2 cents, lol. Love this thread and all the awesome, intelligent posters we have here. You guys made the build-up to the game so much more fun, so thanks to all of you!

Modifié par Lucario_DS9, 10 mars 2012 - 05:53 .

[HopHazzard]

noxsachi wrote...

I am interested in why you liked the Stargazer, because that to me was the final sucker punch in a series of sucker punches provided by the ending. I certainly respect that they got Niel Armstrong to do the voice, but just implying all three games were a story, told by someone we have no idea about? Just frankly it disgusted me. If you wanted to do the DAII thing, it should have been an old Liara or Wrex, make use of their thousand year lifespan. Thankfully it is an after the credit thing so it is easier for me to pretend it doesn't exist...the Guardian and the choices though. Ugh.

It was Buzz Aldrin, actually. Personally, I didn't take it the way you did. I didn't see it as the whole series has been this guy telling a story to a kid. I just saw it as some point far in the future, on a planet that's clearly not Earth, there are humans alive and well and telling the story of how Shepard saved the galaxy. It actually left me feeling pretty good about things. Which is not to say I wouldn't have liked some DA:O style epilogue cards showing how my decisions had effected the survivors in the short term.

[Game_Fan_85]

Daashi wrote...

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

p.s What is the code to hide spoilers?

[ / color = #333333] text [ / color] just without spaces.

Thank you

ElitePinecone wrote...

(I'm struck by just how fantastic
the other 99% of the game that *ISN'T* the last five minutes is - I just
can't believe the quality of storytelling they had going for so much of
this amazing game turned into... whatever that was at the end.)

This is exactly how I described the game when my sister asked me about the ending.  It was so incredible, so intense and so goddamn emotional throughout 99% of the game.  Then the so called ending came and I felt like I'd been kicked in the nuts not only by a charging Krogan but a charging Brute as well.  I was so emotionally exhausted by the end of it, not many games have made me cry, but ME3 didn't just make me cry, it had me emotional and on the verge of tears throughout 90% of the game, I still do not even know why really.  I have never had such an incredible experience, such an emotional attachement to a game, ever.  I knew I loved the previous games and had an attachement to certain characters but knowing it was ending did something to me.  Hell I even liked Liara in the final game!

The sad thing is, the ending really ruined the whole 5 year experience for me.  I started playing ME2 on the PS3 (bought it when it came out and never played past Omega) after finishing ME3 on the 360 as I am going to play the PS3 version with a friend.  I LOVE that game but because I had experienced the end of ME3 a few hours before, I didn't seem to get any enjoyment out of the time I played it all.  I really hope that fades eventually because the way I feel at the moment, I see no point in ever playing ME1&2 again.

[Daashi]

noxsachi wrote...

Ending stuff
I do agree that pretty much everything before going to talk with the Guardian was amazing. Pretty much everything about the game up until then was great. The Guardian just ruins the reapers, and the fact that all the ending choices are so similar and depressing...it really hurts. 

The Normandy part was so stupid it is almost not worth talking about, if you want her to crash, make her crash on Earth damn it.

I am interested in why you liked the Stargazer, because that to me was the final sucker punch in a series of sucker punches provided by the ending. I certainly respect that they got Niel Armstrong to do the voice, but just implying all three games were a story, told by someone we have no idea about? Just frankly it disgusted me. If you wanted to do the DAII thing, it should have been an old Liara or Wrex, make use of their thousand year lifespan. Thankfully it is an after the credit thing so it is easier for me to pretend it doesn't exist...the Guardian and the choices though. Ugh.
Also yeah Ending variation does not exist. They might have different implications, but nothing is explained, and the cutscene is virtually the same. There is one ending, and it is ****ing depressing.

Personally I could deal with Shepard snuffing it. If the ending was worth it, I honest could. The epilogue for both the good/bad endings was the same, I don't think it should have been, it totally takes away the whole concept of choice.

Two ideas for endings:

Paragon: You destroy the reapers but die doing so (no ifs, ands or buts) and there is a epilogue where one of your squaddies (perhaps your LI) is being begged by a child for a story about Shepard (perhaps their child or grandchild) and the backdrop if the half re-built Earth.

Renegade: You choose to let the Reapers continue their harvest and become a Reaper yourself. The epilogue is basically the beings in the new Cycle being told to prepare for their harvest by the Shepard Reaper. I could totally hear the line; "I am the Shepard of your future" in a Reaper voice being voice by the VAs for Shepard.

[devSin]

There are threads elsewhere for discussing the endings, guys.

[RomanDark]

HopHazzard wrote...

Reyno411 wrote...

I have a question about Steve if anyone can answer. It contains a spoiler about the ending so if someone doesn't want to know don't read ahead....


.....in my playthrough Steve died during the final stretch as he was shot down by.... I think it was a harvester, not sure. Anyhow what I want to know is, does this always happen no matter what? I never got to the part where you go hang out with him at the club so I'm wondering if he died because I didn't "complete" his friendship or whatever. Can anyone enlighten me?

If you complete his friendship or romance him, he survives the shuttle crash.

Somehow I didn't get his friendship options. After the talk about his husband I had no more chances for conversation with him (And I was very thorough at checking in with him) I never got a captain cabin scene or a citadel meetup. But I guess his death in my game didn't mean that much since I never got to get to know him <_<

[RomanDark]

So I just finished the game and I'm totally depressed guess I should have read the spoilers so I could be prepared. It kinda annoyed me that the three choices all end up the same for Shepard.


Luckily the after-ending save puts me right before this magical moment (which in my head canon means that everything after this moment is just a bad nightmare) So I'll just stay right here and drown my sorrows in some Kaidan and booze.







On that note I really like how the Mshep/Kaidan romance played out. To me it felt like the relationship spanned all three games but just didn't give into itself until this game. I loved all the talks with Kaidan, though they were few and far between (I spent half the game chasing all over the ship trying to get new dialogue lol). The talk in London was absolutely heartbreaking since I pretty much knew how it would end up.


At with that, In loving memory of Adrik Shepard (who is looking mighty fine in ME3 I might add)



:crying:

[Daashi]

devSin wrote...

There are threads elsewhere for discussing the endings, guys.

But like dude not cool! To me this thread is like my local, the booze may sometimes not be the best, there are bar fights of course, but the regulars are my mates.

Since I've been warned away from discussing anything other than the same-sex romances, I'll say something I've wanted to say since I first saw the romance scene with male Shepard/Kaidan. Did anyone else like the fact that Kaidan seemed to dominate that encounter?

[HopHazzard]

Daashi wrote...

devSin wrote...

There are threads elsewhere for discussing the endings, guys.

But like dude not cool! To me this thread is like my local, the booze may sometimes not be the best, there are bar fights of course, but the regulars are my mates.

Since I've been warned away from discussing anything other than the same-sex romances, I'll say something I've wanted to say since I first saw the romance scene with male Shepard/Kaidan. Did anyone else like the fact that Kaidan seemed to dominate that encounter?

I know how you feel about this thread, but going off topic is the quickest way to getting it closed. As for the Shepard/Kaidan scene, I found it rather endearing that Shep was the little spoon.  

I've always seen the role of LI in this series (no matter who it is) as someone Shep can let his/her guard down with and take comfort from. Someone s/he didn't have to always be Big Strong Commander Shepard for.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 10 mars 2012 - 07:01 .

[RomanDark]

Daashi wrote...

devSin wrote...

There are threads elsewhere for discussing the endings, guys.

But like dude not cool! To me this thread is like my local, the booze may sometimes not be the best, there are bar fights of course, but the regulars are my mates.

Since I've been warned away from discussing anything other than the same-sex romances, I'll say something I've wanted to say since I first saw the romance scene with male Shepard/Kaidan. Did anyone else like the fact that Kaidan seemed to dominate that encounter?

YES!!! I always knew my Shep was a bottom! lol, after all that hard work out in the Galaxy he just needs to...ahem...let go of control once in a while

[HopHazzard]

RomanDark wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

Reyno411 wrote...

I have a question about Steve if anyone can answer. It contains a spoiler about the ending so if someone doesn't want to know don't read ahead....


.....in my playthrough Steve died during the final stretch as he was shot down by.... I think it was a harvester, not sure. Anyhow what I want to know is, does this always happen no matter what? I never got to the part where you go hang out with him at the club so I'm wondering if he died because I didn't "complete" his friendship or whatever. Can anyone enlighten me?

If you complete his friendship or romance him, he survives the shuttle crash.

Somehow I didn't get his friendship options. After the talk about his husband I had no more chances for conversation with him (And I was very thorough at checking in with him) I never got a captain cabin scene or a citadel meetup. But I guess his death in my game didn't mean that much since I never got to get to know him <_<

It's when you meet him at Purgatory. That's when you choose to be his friend or romance him.

[J-Reyno]

HopHazzard wrote...

Reyno411 wrote...

I have a question about Steve if anyone can answer. It contains a spoiler about the ending so if someone doesn't want to know don't read ahead....


.....in my playthrough Steve died during the final stretch as he was shot down by.... I think it was a harvester, not sure. Anyhow what I want to know is, does this always happen no matter what? I never got to the part where you go hang out with him at the club so I'm wondering if he died because I didn't "complete" his friendship or whatever. Can anyone enlighten me?

If you complete his friendship or romance him, he survives the shuttle crash.

Ah, thanks a lot.  Didn't want to bother if it was unavoidable since his death during my first run shocked the hell outta me.  I felt so bad lol.

[RomanDark]

HopHazzard wrote...

It's when you meet him at Purgatory. That's when you choose to be his friend or romance him.

He never showed up for me. I told him to take shore leave the next time we were at the Citadel and for the rest of the game I kept looking for him each time I went there and he never showed.

[SierraGHOSTN7]

noxsachi wrote...

Astaiir wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Astaiir wrote...

And about the endings... I was actually pretty satisfied with the ending. I was into destroying Reapers and Shepard sacrificing. And it did. Pity Relays got destroyed.
Now I wish they'd do more DLCs.

You were happy with then endings?  Every part of all endings?

Spoilers
The most I found jarring was the Normandy part of the endings. Why is the Normandy going through a mass relay, shouldn't it have been at Earth? And how did the crew get onto the Normandy when they were on Earth fighting? Just didn't make sense.

And the epilogue of the "Destroy" and "Control" choice, it was like watching a movie, where the main character has this amazing adventure, just to realize at the end that it didn't really happen, because before the beginning of the movie they fell asleep or something. Yeah, like a said jarring, and totally not to my liking.

Spoilers and my anwser

Well, I didn't really like the epilogue. But I liked the final overal. How epic the fight for earth was. Fighting for earth, from husks, from Reapers(i kinda epxected more to hear form Harbinger, like more fight or something, we seen him for a minute, literally)... How Shepard said goodbye to all the squadmates. Then, how Anderson died, saying Shepard made him proud... To be honest, I was crying. Then how they sat together and looked at Earth. Then, how Sheaprd chose the 'destroy' option, without any doubt, not caring about own life and having flashbacks.
And if you did everything right, you got the short cutscene, where it shows Shepard survived, among ruins. I wish they shown more of this.

About the Joker and Normandy, I can't really say why was Normandy in the Relay, not on Earth. I can't figure it myself too. Maybe they wanted to get as far as possible from Relays and the 'destroy-wave' to save EDI and Normandy and everything else? Or maybe they were heading to Earth? I don't know. I hope they'll give us many DLCs. I have really no problem paying more. Those games were epic experience.

But the epilogue, I just interpreted it not as a story, but when humanity survived, Shepard became a legend. Next generations lived with this and even if they couldn't go to stars yet, everyone knew what happened, what Shepard achieved and sacrificed. That the Stargazer - the old man was telling the kid what happened, how they were saved.
I know that 'tell me another story about Shepard', said by the kid can be that it was just a bed-time story. I just wanted it to interpret like I did, because it sounds more epic. Like, giving justice to Shepard.
 

I dunno, but when I played the game, all the games, all Mass Effect games, I somehow felt the character, like it was me. I hope I wasn't alone. But because of this this whole experience was SO INTENSE.

Ending stuff
I do agree that pretty much everything before going to talk with the Guardian was amazing. Pretty much everything about the game up until then was great. The Guardian just ruins the reapers, and the fact that all the ending choices are so similar and depressing...it really hurts. 

The Normandy part was so stupid it is almost not worth talking about, if you want her to crash, make her crash on Earth damn it.

I am interested in why you liked the Stargazer, because that to me was the final sucker punch in a series of sucker punches provided by the ending. I certainly respect that they got Niel Armstrong to do the voice, but just implying all three games were a story, told by someone we have no idea about? Just frankly it disgusted me. If you wanted to do the DAII thing, it should have been an old Liara or Wrex, make use of their thousand year lifespan. Thankfully it is an after the credit thing so it is easier for me to pretend it doesn't exist...the Guardian and the choices though. Ugh.
Also yeah Ending variation does not exist. They might have different implications, but nothing is explained, and the cutscene is virtually the same. There is one ending, and it is ****ing depressing.

Spoilers and my anwser

Well, I didn't expect the happy ending. The whole game was so sad, dramatic, depressing, emotional. I had tears in my eyes many time, I cried... I'd be sad if there would be a happy ending.

Then about the Catalyst and the Reapers. I was expecting that every Reaper is a stored civilisation. I guest Harbinger was the Collectors, maybe I'm wrong, but it's what I think. But I didn't expect that Catalyst would control the Reapers and if you'd merge Citadel and the Crucible, you'd be able to destroy Reapers.

Well, you can't say which planet Normandy crashed. You can interpret it as Earth. It's all up to you.

I didn't like the Stargazer. I just said like I interpreted the epilogue, that it was better for me than just a bed-time story. I just *want* to see it that galaxy survived, after Shepard's sacrifice, rebuilt itself, but noone forgot about Shepard. And that they are telling it to the next generations, to not forget.
In that it sounds better than it would be told by Liara or Wrex. That no one forgot what they sacrificed to live.



Right now I await many DLC, hoping they'll do more justice for the game.

[HopHazzard]

RomanDark wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

It's when you meet him at Purgatory. That's when you choose to be his friend or romance him.

He never showed up for me. I told him to take shore leave the next time we were at the Citadel and for the rest of the game I kept looking for him each time I went there and he never showed.

After you tell him to take off he's standing at the viewing area at the Normandy's docking bay looking at the ships. You talk to him then and he mentions wanting to leave a picture of his husband at the memorial wall at the refugee camp. That's where he'll be after the next mission. After you talk to him there, he'll send you an e-mail asking you to meet him at Purgatory, and the next time you go to the Citadel that's where he is.

edit: Good rule of thumb is to check the map every time you enter an area on the citadel. NPC's that can be interacted with will be listed.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 10 mars 2012 - 06:41 .

[RomanDark]

HopHazzard wrote...

RomanDark wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

It's when you meet him at Purgatory. That's when you choose to be his friend or romance him.

He never showed up for me. I told him to take shore leave the next time we were at the Citadel and for the rest of the game I kept looking for him each time I went there and he never showed.

After you tell him to take off he's standing at the viewing area at the Normandy's docking bay looking at the ships. You talk to him then and he mentions wanting to leave a picture of his husband at the memorial wall at the refugee camp. That's where he'll be after the next mission. After you talk to him there, he'll send you an e-mail asking you to meet him at Purgatory, and the next time you go to the Citadel that's where he is.

edit: Good rule of thumb is to check the map every time you enter an area on the citadel. NPC's that can be interacted with will be listed.

Ah, then he'll live in my next playthrough...should there ever be one

[Game_Fan_85]

HopHazzard wrote...

edit: Good rule of thumb is to check the map every time you enter an area on the citadel. NPC's that can be interacted with will be listed.

It wasn't until I started my second run and visited Kaidan for the first time that I realised you can look at all floors of the Citadel using the LB/RB buttons when the map is displayed.  I wasted so much time travelling to every floor each time I was there to see if anyone from the ship was around.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 10 mars 2012 - 06:45 .