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[Daashi]

Blue_Shayde wrote...

Hmm...I do agree on the previously mentioned fact...Liara's little side glances and looks and words at the start of the game whenever I was around Kaiden......it was like..she knew. *bursts out laughing* I swear, I kept getting the vibe that she knew my Shep was crushing on Kaiden, and vice verse. Which...personally, I love that. xD

It certainly took her long enough to figure it out. Keep on accidently getting into a relationship with her during ME1, I was only being nice.

[Chaotic Loon]

Blue_Shayde wrote...

Hmm...I do agree on the previously mentioned fact...Liara's little side glances and looks and words at the start of the game whenever I was around Kaiden......it was like..she knew. *bursts out laughing* I swear, I kept getting the vibe that she knew my Shep was crushing on Kaiden, and vice verse. Which...personally, I love that. xD

Heh, agreed!  Those side glances had me grinning from ear to ear...she must have used her network to discover my Kaidan shrine...I thought I hid it so well...

So guys, were there any points in your game, particularly in respect to the s/s romances or characters that had you laughing outrageous or bawling like a baby?

"What was that?" ...."Sorry...I tripped" in the Ardat-Yakshi monastery had me laughing for a good minute. 

Listening to the soundtrack atm is making me tear up

[Daashi]

Chaotic Loon wrote...

"What was that?" ...."Sorry...I tripped" in the Ardat-Yakshi monastery had me laughing for a good minute. 

Sorry who said this?

[Cuddlezarro]

pretty much any time James and Cortez had conversation going on...loved it when cortez said he was all worried for me and james was like "im hurt esteban what about me"

those 2 have such a bromance going on

[Chaotic Loon]

Daashi wrote...

Chaotic Loon wrote...

"What was that?" ...."Sorry...I tripped" in the Ardat-Yakshi monastery had me laughing for a good minute. 

Sorry who said this?

Kaidan does

[Daashi]

Chaotic Loon wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Chaotic Loon wrote...

"What was that?" ...."Sorry...I tripped" in the Ardat-Yakshi monastery had me laughing for a good minute. 

Sorry who said this?

Kaidan does

To Shepard or someone else. There is a picture in my mind on how that would go down, but I'm not sure what I'm thinking is what was intended.

[Chaotic Loon]

Daashi wrote...

To Shepard or someone else. There is a picture in my mind on how that would go down, but I'm not sure what I'm thinking is what was intended.

He says it to Shep, it's not a cinematic scene, just auto dialog as you walk through the monastery.

[Ricvenart]

Maybe you misunderstood me a bit but a reaction to them being two men is exactly what I wouldn't want. At most Maybe something along the line of Chakwas or who ever saying "So you and Kaidan finally got you're act together then" (Kaidan in the room and blushing optional) but It could also apply to a new FemShep/Kaidan romance. Or his Students clapping when he grabs you and he snorts afterwards, might have been hilarious although it might have also ruined a otherwise great scene. Not so thrilled either that the first time together is only implied not seen, would have rathered it the other way round if anything and at least then the nightmare doesn't come into the first scene but he could still be there.

I laughed at him tripping too, imagined he was too busy pointing his flash light at my Behind to see where he was going. Nearly teared up from a few moments of joy too but not quite. Steve was the first to make me cry out of a happy sadness as he let go. One of the reasons I would have liked more active content with Kaidan. Though seeing him in the Hospital was sad, funny when he asked if I was flirting with him (which I still think is a reference to Him telling Shepard he's a more powerful biotic in ME1, a bit flirty then).

[shepskisaac]

@Ricvenart but if the sex-before-Cerberus-base was their first time together, then it would also be the last one. That I wouldn't want for my poor Shep, only 1 sex in 3 years just to have his LI gone right after lol

[Ricvenart]

Bring the sexy time forward and before the cerberus base have shep wake up with the nightmare with Kaidan's arm over him, slide out and put the "You didn't wake me" there instead.
I'm just saying thier first time together is the more special moment so it should have been witnessed, even if it meant 2 sexy time scenes (makes up for non til now a bit too).

[Zandilar]

Chaotic Loon wrote...

Daashi wrote...

To Shepard or someone else. There is a picture in my mind on how that would go down, but I'm not sure what I'm thinking is what was intended.

He says it to Shep, it's not a cinematic scene, just auto dialog as you walk through the monastery.

It's not a unique line. I just did that part last night, and Ashley said it. I'm sure it could be said by anyone on the squad (I just happened to have Ash and Liara with me at the time).

To put it into context: You're walking through a dark room, with bits and pieces scattered over the floor from an attack. As you're getting to a door, Ash/Kaiden/Whoever trips and makes a noise... which results in the exchange mentioned. (I was playing FemShep, for a little more context there. It's not a line particular to the romance.)

Modifié par Zandilar, 12 mars 2012 - 10:31 .

[goodventure]

HJF4 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

HJF4 wrote...

Am I the only one who is curious about why female Shepard gets "I love you" from Kaidan (even from the new romance), but male Shepard doesn't?

Most likely because of animations. When FemShep says that, she's sitting on Kaidan in a way/pose that's very feminine so they just cut it straight to sex scene for mShep.

So it looks like they didn't bother to make specifically M/M animations for the Kaidan M/M romance, then.

I wouldn't have minded having my ManShep sit on Kaidan the way FemShep did...  and then having Kaidan carry ManShep to bed like he did to FemShep.

Game_Fan_85 wrote...

No "I love you" line is disappointing but I am still happy with what we got. The romance scene and goodbye kiss on Earth say it all for me.

Agreed. I'm just glad it's in the game AT ALL.

[shepskisaac]

Just saw Kelly's romance in ME3 on YouTube. I'm surprised, I thought it was cut in the end but it's not and you actually can make quite an actual commitment to her even though she says she needs to stay where she is for now (which ain't different to Miri or Jack).

Does it unlock Paramour Achievement?

[bas_kon]

I have a question, I finished a playthrough with 2025 efective war assets, and Kaidan died in the final confrotation before the crucible. Why was he at the Normandy ALIVE and smiling?? I saw his body!! Is it a bug or what?? Didn't want to send him to that planet, but he went anyways...

Modifié par bas_kon, 13 mars 2012 - 12:24 .

[Zandilar]

IsaacShep wrote...

Just saw Kelly's romance in ME3 on YouTube. I'm surprised, I thought it was cut in the end but it's not and you actually can make quite an actual commitment to her even though she says she needs to stay where she is for now (which ain't different to Miri or Jack).

Does it unlock Paramour Achievement?

I'm not sure.

However, I have to say I was taken completely by surprise when she died in my game. I play pretty much pure Paragon, which means I almost always take the upper right option when conversing. So I didn't tell her to change her identity (since that was sitting right in the Renegade slot).

[rant]The first thing I hear is some NPCs saying that Kelly was stupid enough to tell Cerebus who she really was. Honestly, even without me telling her to change her identity, surely she would have done something like that of her own volition? It isn't like she was stupid. (How come people always seem to think councellors/psychologists are dumb people people?)[/rant]

[Abispa]

Zandilar wrote...

However, I have to say I was taken completely by surprise when she died in my game. I play pretty much pure Paragon, which means I almost always take the upper right option when conversing. So I didn't tell her to change her identity (since that was sitting right in the Renegade slot).

Unless a dialog option is locked, I always think it best that everyone picks the BEST sounding option and NOT automatically choose UP if you're a Paragon and Down if you're a Renegade. Unlike DA2, the VA tones aren't dramatically different so that it sounds odd if you suddenly change direction in the middle of a conversation. I usually, but not always, choose Paragon for allies and Renegade for enemies unless options are locked.

One of the things I do sort of like in this game is that it at least tries to give the illusion that the Paragon choices can bite you in the ass.

[devSin]

Abispa wrote...

Unless a dialog option is locked, I always think it best that everyone picks the BEST sounding option and NOT automatically choose UP if you're a Paragon and Down if you're a Renegade. Unlike DA2, the VA tones aren't dramatically different so that it sounds odd if you suddenly change direction in the middle of a conversation. I usually, but not always, choose Paragon for allies and Renegade for enemies unless options are locked.

Is it just me, or did it seem in a lot of cases that the choices weren't really Paragon/Renegade?

There were cases where they were practically identical, and others where there didn't seem to be any morality difference between the two? It seemed that instead of the old way where they would sometimes make two options sit left and right (instead of up and down) they just always used up and down, even in a case where the two options were not "good/evil" but simply mutually exclusive?

The problem I had is that morality ended up being incosequential most everywhere, so except for epic moral decisions, there's really no reason not to meta-game all the choices (especially since you really can't get enough EMS without multiplayer no matter what).

bas_kon wrote...

Why was he at the Normandy ALIVE and smiling?? I saw his body!! Is it a bug or what??

No, that's the way the game ends.

And yes, you're correct, it doesn't make any sense that your crew suddenly become deserters and fly away to Happily Ever After land, even the ones who were dead or unconscious by your side not 30 minutes ago.

Modifié par devSin, 13 mars 2012 - 12:57 .

[Akrim_Drak]

I'm okay that they never really mention anything like "OMG Shepard you dig guys! hur hur" but I really woulda killed for a line from Miranda(who says she's perfect right) if you don't romance her in ME2 along the lines of: "Now I see why you never had any interest in me," with a smirk or something. It's SO in her character!

[Aurellia]

For what it's worth I was able to create a modded import for FemShep on Xbox 360 who romanced Ashley in ME1. So far it has been working out pretty well. At one point I get Shelaloo voicing FemShep but after that the dialog is just silent. I'll let you know if I can complete the romance this way.

[Maria Caliban]

IsaacShep wrote...

HJF4 wrote...

So it looks like they didn't bother to make specifically M/M animations for the Kaidan M/M romance, then.

No, and considering there's not a single romance scene that's completly unique...

FemShep/Samantha has unique animations.

[Game_Fan_85]

Aurellia wrote...

For what it's worth I was able to create a modded import for FemShep on Xbox 360 who romanced Ashley in ME1. So far it has been working out pretty well. At one point I get Shelaloo voicing FemShep but after that the dialog is just silent. I'll let you know if I can complete the romance this way.

How did you manage that?  Is it done through the ME save editor or with a modded 360?  Do you know if Kaidan/mShep is possible through save edditing or mods?

bas_kon wrote...

I have a question, I finished a
playthrough with 2025 efective war assets, and Kaidan died in the final
confrotation before the crucible. Why was he at the Normandy ALIVE and
smiling?? I saw his body!! Is it a bug or what?? Didn't want to send him
to that planet, but he went anyways...

Happy smiley Kaidan getting of the Normandy after what just happened to Shepard really irritated me when I finished it, but it was just one of many knives through my heart at the time.  It seems that the LI always gets off the Normandy, whether they were in the final battle or not.  Even Steve is on the Normandy if you romance him.  Nobody has figured out what determines the second character, I had Garrus which if what I am thinking about that particular scene turns out to be true, makes sense to me.  That is, if the "ending is a hallucination" theory is correct, I think the whole Normandy thing is Shepard having his LI and closest friend go off to "paradise" guided by Joker.  Maybe the final goodbye to each companion determines the other person with the LI, I have no clue but for me, Garrus was perfect.  I'm just glad BioWare didn't take that scene as a final opportunity so shove Liara onto my Shepard.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 13 mars 2012 - 03:17 .

[Game_Fan_85]

Ricvenart wrote...

Maybe you misunderstood me a bit but a reaction to them being two men is exactly what I wouldn't want. At most Maybe something along the line of Chakwas or who ever saying "So you and Kaidan finally got you're act together then" (Kaidan in the room and blushing optional) but It could also apply to a new FemShep/Kaidan romance.

That's pretty much how I would have liked it to be.  Having characters like Chakwas, Garrus and Joker commenting on how it took them so long to finally get together when everyone else "knew" and females like Liara being happy for you and admitting she always knew she never had a chance.  I can imagine Jack saying something like "So that's why you never tried to bone me" with one of those smartar*e Jack smiles.

Having party chatter about Hawke's lovelife in DA2 is one of the reasons I wish they never took out the lift loading scenes from ME1.  That was the only time you ever had Dragon Age style party banter.

[Zandilar]

Abispa wrote...

Unless a dialog option is locked, I always think it best that everyone picks the BEST sounding option and NOT automatically choose UP if you're a Paragon and Down if you're a Renegade. Unlike DA2, the VA tones aren't dramatically different so that it sounds odd if you suddenly change direction in the middle of a conversation. I usually, but not always, choose Paragon for allies and Renegade for enemies unless options are locked.

One of the things I do sort of like in this game is that it at least tries to give the illusion that the Paragon choices can bite you in the ass.

Well, the choice for Kelly was "change your identity" or "keep helping people". The latter is the obvious paragon/good guy/best sounding IMHO option. I don't just mindlessly select the paragon option. I've got a few renegade points on my play through so far (not very many, but enough to give me the option to use some renegade specific responses on the dialogue wheel (ie: bottom left red coloured text)). I am not even sure why the "change your identity" option was renegade. In fact, it should have just been a no brainer for Kelly, it shouldn't even have been an option for Shepard to suggest. (In fact, given her change in appearance, I just kind of assumed she'd already done that - until I had the option to tell her to do it...)

Kelly was an intelligent woman, surely she should have realized that saying "yes, I'm Kelly Chambers" to an agent from an extreme organization(1) she had deserted, and was specifically asking for her in a hostile manner(2), wasn't a good idea?

(1) Cerebus
(2) They were attempting to take over the Citadel at the time, they obviously wouldn't want to give a deserter hugs and rainbows and kittens.

This is a thing that sometimes irritates me about games like Mass Effect, NPCs don't seem to have wills or minds of their own - they all seem to rely on the protagonist to make important decisions. This is just POOR WRITING. Maybe the protagonist can influence their decisions, but ultimately the NPCs should be able think for themselves.

[Frozen83]

Ricvenart wrote...

Steve's friendship was great, It was touching at times, but he becomes incredibly quiet after the dance once you only want friendship, is it the same for romance? Did they bundle all the active conversations and mission comments into the first part of the game and just stopped bothering after? Know I said I'd play though them both to show appreciation for the inclusion but I don't think it'll be happening any time soon, not even sure I could go back to finish off my cannon shep and make those adjustments I wanted to right now.

I'll tell you tomorrow. Last night just danced, and afterward it seems he only changes his comments from friendly to flirty. Even says something about smiling because of the last night. I'm guessing it is implied that they are spending quite some time together after that (between the missions, off screen, when you turn off your computer and don't force Shep to kill evetything that moves). M.

[lietk12]

Frozen83 wrote...

I'm guessing it is implied that they are spending quite some time together after that (between the missions, off screen, when you turn off your computer and don't force Shep to kill evetything that moves). M.

Exactly. Also, Shepard makes a comment to Steve about trying it under the bed next time., if I recall correctly.

Modifié par lietk12, 13 mars 2012 - 06:37 .