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[Daashi]

Ailith430 wrote...

Asperius wrote...
should do a DLC starring your LI which ends up in jungle planet (I still think it is Africa )...

How could it be Africa when there are two large moons/planets visible in the sky from the ground? It's definiately NOT Earth.

Actually recent science has proven that we have more natural satelites than just "the moon".

[Ailith Tycane]

Daashi wrote...

Actually recent science has proven that we have more natural satelites than just "the moon".

Not like the ones that were visible from the ending.

[Daashi]

Ailith430 wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Actually recent science has proven that we have more natural satelites than just "the moon".

Not like the ones that were visible from the ending.

Can you say for certain that you know what the Earth's night sky will look like in the late 22nd century.

Modifié par Daashi, 15 mars 2012 - 12:01 .

[Ailith Tycane]

Daashi wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Actually recent science has proven that we have more natural satelites than just "the moon".

Not like the ones that were visible from the ending.

Can you say for certain that you know what the Earth's night sky will look like in the late 22nd century.

Fairly certain it wont look like this.

[Frozen83]

Daashi wrote...

Can you say for certain that you know what the Earth's night sky will look like in the late 22nd century.

Read Codex. Plus on ME1 you have Luna mission. Unless the Reapers have dragged another moon for Earth with them, nope, no two moons. But i think Zorya has two moons? Correct me if I'm wrong. M.

[ElitePinecone]

Asperius wrote...

ElitePinecone wrote...

(and if the request is for a happy rainbows unicorns ending with the LIs, that can easily be done with pre-ending DLC that just gives another option for enough War Assets)

Enough war assest has nothing to do with endings I believe. Main point of endings is making a choice. You can have all the war assest in the world but you still need to go in there and make that choice.

I wrote my happy ending in my head depending on the out come of ending. Kaidan is still alive after all. Heh maybe they should do a DLC starring your LI which ends up in jungle planet (I still think it is Africa ). In which you can make your LI go to Shep's picture and mourn. Just like the Sims where your sim can cry over his lost ones' tombstone.

I'm hypothesising. 

If people want a happy ending, the best way to do it would be a fourth option with enough war assets, or something. It's probably far easier to do than scrapping the last fifteen minutes of the game and remaking it all.

(and war assets do affect the endings significantly, to the point of unlocking one or more of the three endings. With a low enough score you only get two options, and both of them turn out badly - well, even more badly)

[Daashi]

Ailith430 wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Actually recent science has proven that we have more natural satelites than just "the moon".

Not like the ones that were visible from the ending.

Can you say for certain that you know what the Earth's night sky will look like in the late 22nd century.

Fairly certain it wont look like this.

*snip*

Fairly certain is not absolutely certain. I know, call me nick-picking but if Asperius wants it to be Africa in his head-canon, then it's Africa.

[Daashi]

Frozen83 wrote...

Read Codex. Plus on ME1 you have Luna mission. Unless the Reapers have dragged another moon for Earth with them, nope, no two moons. But i think Zorya has two moons? Correct me if I'm wrong. M.

Actually modern science has discovered at least 4 moons orbiting the Earth.

[Ailith Tycane]

Definitely not Earth.

And if he wants it to be Africa in his head that's fine, God forbid I keep someone from their delusions ;P

And no we dont have 4 moons, the Moon is, in fact, Earth's only known natural satelite. Anything else orbiting us would be too small to be considered a moon.

Modifié par Ailith430, 15 mars 2012 - 12:11 .

[Arik7]

Daashi wrote...

Frozen83 wrote...

Read Codex. Plus on ME1 you have Luna mission. Unless the Reapers have dragged another moon for Earth with them, nope, no two moons. But i think Zorya has two moons? Correct me if I'm wrong. M.

Actually modern science has discovered at least 4 moons orbiting the Earth.

Don't remember that from my Astronomy class.

[Ailith Tycane]

Arik7 wrote...
Don't remember that from my Astronomy class.

That's because it's false. Regardless, whatever planet the Normandy landed on, it wasn't Earth, and even though I assume Bioware has DLC to explain the ending, I doubt they will bother clarifying what planet it is. And thats assuming they even actually landed on a planet at all and it wasn's a hallucination on Shepard's part.

[Daashi]

Ailith430 wrote...

And no we dont have 4 moons, the Moon is, in fact, Earth's only known natural satelite. Anything else orbiting us would be too small to be considered a moon.

Actually rencent changes to the definition of what size a permantly orbiting piece of spece debris has to be for it to be classified as a moon has meant that several of the larger chunks of debis that orbit Earth have been re-classified as moons.

[Knightly_BW]

Daashi wrote...

I was just reading one the Mass Effect articles Forbes had put up. Yes, Forbes, is commenting on the Mass Effect situation better the "professional" gaming "journalists".

And this is a comment I found hilarious and just wanted to share with the rest of you;

SailorHarry87
Casey Hudson is the Illusive Man, Bioware is Cerberus, and EA are the Reapers. Those that say the ending was fine and the rest are whiners, are sucumbing to the indoctrination.

I believe this is a comment on the entire "dream/halluication/indoctrination" theory that is floating around. And seriously if I have to buy my ME ending, well I haven't bought anything from Maxis in almost two years because of what EA is doing to The Sims brand. And BioWare seems to be the only company out there making the RPGs that I never knew I wanted to play until my first BW game (KOTOR).

Nah, Casey is hotter than Illusive Man. Plus probably he gave us Kaidan. So he can only be Catalyst.

I am with Bioware since Neverwinter Nights: OC. Since that day Bioware means gaming to me. I compare every damn RPG even MMO ones with their work. I partly understand their drastic decisions of late. I know I will stick with Bioware 'till they close their doors. They were working with Atari before EA which is also called worst in business by many people. Publishers will change important part of the Bioware is it's... soul. They trading it with demons most of the time tho'.

I couldn't sh*t Bioware for 5 minutes of my 22 hours of game play. It is kinda funny like wanting to change a movie or book just because you don't like ending. Yeah maybe I find them ugly/weird/bad but it is how they see fitting to their master work (Mr. Hudson and his whole team). Yeah galaxy is doomed. So what everything will be alright as that after credit scene shows. ME 3 is a war story, in wars it is normal to feel you lost it even when you win.

[Ailith Tycane]

Daashi wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

And no we dont have 4 moons, the Moon is, in fact, Earth's only known natural satelite. Anything else orbiting us would be too small to be considered a moon.

Actually rencent changes to the definition of what size a permantly orbiting piece of spece debris has to be for it to be classified as a moon has meant that several of the larger chunks of debis that orbit Earth have been re-classified as moons.

lol, no. Just no.

At most, they would be considered quasi-satelites, and they all orbit the sun, not the Earth. Our planet has only one moon, Luna.

Modifié par Ailith430, 15 mars 2012 - 12:19 .

[Knightly_BW]

Ailith430 wrote...

And if he wants it to be Africa in his head that's fine, God forbid I keep someone from their delusions ;P

Thanks sir/madam.

Edit: Yes no one can take Kaidan that far from Matt Shepard. Also still Kaidan and Liara will find his body. Then Kaidan/Shep will play English Paitent. Liara and Miranda will come for tea parties (Yes, Miranda was also hiding on earth). They will visit Grunt and Tali on summers.

Point is. Ending is open and good to write your own epilogue.

Modifié par Asperius, 15 mars 2012 - 12:27 .

[Daashi]

Ailith430 wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Ailith430 wrote...

And no we dont have 4 moons, the Moon is, in fact, Earth's only known natural satelite. Anything else orbiting us would be too small to be considered a moon.

Actually rencent changes to the definition of what size a permantly orbiting piece of spece debris has to be for it to be classified as a moon has meant that several of the larger chunks of debis that orbit Earth have been re-classified as moons.

lol, no. Just no.

At most, they would be considered quasi-satelites, and they all orbit the sun, not the moon. Earth has only one moon, Luna.

Actually in terms of astromony a synchronized orbit that 3753 Cruithne has or the horseshoe orbit that AA29 display can have them termed as satelites.

Edit: They are referred to as co-orbital satelites.

Modifié par Daashi, 15 mars 2012 - 12:26 .

[Ailith Tycane]

Daashi wrote...

Actually in terms of astromony a synchronized orbit that 3753 Cruithne has or the horseshoe orbit that AA29 display can have them termed as satelites.

Satelites, not moons. They both orbit the sun, not the Earth, so they are not moons.

[Daashi]

Ailith430 wrote...

Daashi wrote...

Actually in terms of astromony a synchronized orbit that 3753 Cruithne has or the horseshoe orbit that AA29 display can have them termed as satelites.

Satelites, not moons. They both orbit the sun, not the Earth, so they are not moons.

W must be working under different assumptions because the word satelite (according to what I've been taught) is a synonym to moon/luna. And for some strange reason if a satelite's orbit is affected by Earth's gravity well it is considered a moon/luna/satelite of Earth.

Seriously off topic here.

Riegning it back in; whooo m/m relationships in ME finally.

[Ailith Tycane]

Daashi wrote...

W must be working under different assumptions because the word satelite (according to what I've been taught) is a synonym to moon/luna. And for some strange reason if a satelite's orbit is affected by Earth's gravity well it is considered a moon/luna/satelite of Earth.

Seriously off topic here.

Riegning it back in; whooo m/m relationships in ME finally.

Technically that's true, but as I said, those two asteroids you mentioned are technically quasi-satelites and not full fledged moons. Their orbit is not affected by the Earth at all, they orbit the sun, therefore they are not moons, as I have been told by a few astronomy professors over the years. And yes this is very off topic, I'll stop now, lol.

[Daashi]

Asperius wrote...

I couldn't sh*t Bioware for 5 minutes of my 22 hours of game play. It is kinda funny like wanting to change a movie or book just because you don't like ending. Yeah maybe I find them ugly/weird/bad but it is how they see fitting to their master work (Mr. Hudson and his whole team). Yeah galaxy is doomed. So what everything will be alright as that after credit scene shows. ME 3 is a war story, in wars it is normal to feel you lost it even when you win.

So you honesty have no problem that a game where "every choice matters" is suddenly condensed to a choice where only the colours of the graphics change reguarding choice. (Lets give a moment of silence to the colour-blind.)

And lets not forget Arrival, where we are told that the destruction of a relay will cause a supernova like devisation to the system it is in. Hell in the prologue we are being detained for destroying a Mass Relay and killing all inhabitants in that system. No matter your choice, Earth, Pavelon, Rannock, Tuchanka (and many more) planets get wiped out because they are in a system where a relay is located. And what about the god-child VI/AI that Shepard interacts with in his last moments, did it hoenestly feel like Shepard was talking with it, s/he can't ask questions, s/he can't argue his/her case.

I also love how each variation of the ending is classified as two endings because your final choice in ME2 changes the stats needed to achieve those variations differ.

[Zandilar]

 

Ailith430 wrote...
Or according to parappa the rapper; "Kick, punch, it's all in the mind."

OMG. I remember when the very first Parappa game came out... lol.

ElitePinecone wrote...
To be honest I don't think the team were thinking of metaphysics when they wrote the Lazarus Project. Or physics, even.

I think you're right. I don't think they gave it much thought at all. The implications of what Cerebus achieved are staggering, and perhaps should have had the galaxy on an even footing with the Reapers as far as technology is concerend. (Provided, of course, that Cerebus shared it... But then you have to ask the question, why are Cerebus so far in advance of everyone else, especially the Asari? And if they are so advanced, what possible advantage would they have gained by dominating/controlling the Reapers? I mean, they can bring people back from the dead!)
(I'm sorry, I find this sort of discussion fascinating.)

Asperius wrote...
Science doesn't believe existence of what it can't prove. Until science finds a way to prove there is something called "soul" exist, most science fiction works will probably dismiss it. 
As once a good writer said; If you want to work on science fiction you need to understand science. If you want to work on fantasy fiction you need to understand religion.

I am not so sure about that. Science fiction usually contains speculations and theories that we can't currently prove. That's why it's fiction.

As for the quote from your good writer, I partially agree with it. Understanding science is a plus for sci fi, but one does not need to understand religion for fantasy - understanding of or knowledge of classical mythology is probably more important. 

However, the single most important thing a good writer needs to write solid speculative fiction, is an excellent imagination. 


Now I'll let you get back to your Shepdan/Sheptez fest. (Where are the f/f fans? Why aren't we talking about the Liaramance and the Samance?)

ETA: missing line breaks.

Modifié par Zandilar, 15 mars 2012 - 12:50 .

[Knightly_BW]

Yes it is off topic but I love when you people chime in and spill your scientific knowledge. It makes me learn new things.

This is how I learned terrible fate of red heads from Daashi.

While we try to drag it to on topic, let me ask you a question.

Did you have anyone your male or female shep wanted to romance (except VS) on your crew? Especially male shepards as I can't remember anyone from ME2 that made me wish they were m/m options. So for my Shepard "waiting for the right man" sounds geniune even that line belongs to Steve romance.

Female shepards had more interesting people in ME2. I'd love to be able to play f/f romance with Jack. Miranda's romance is good but I can't picture her as f/f material.

[Ailith Tycane]

Zandilar wrote...
(Where are the f/f fans? Why aren't we talking about the Liaramance and the Samance?)

ETA: missing line breaks.

Good question!







Boosh.

[Knightly_BW]

Zandilar wrote...

As for the quote from your good writer, I partially agree with it. Understanding science is a plus for sci fi, but one does not need to understand religion for fantasy - understanding of or knowledge of classical mythology is probably more important. 

I wondered it at first actually. Couldn't understand what has religion to do with Fantasy Fiction. It is not about religion systems or God. It is about how people see them, how they reacted to supernatural, how they see magic in thing we see as everyday occasions (lightnings, fire, storms etc.). So as you say classical mythology also belongs to it as much as it belong to religion as they are mostly reflection of those societies religion (like Greek or Egyptian ones).

[Ailith Tycane]

Asperius wrote...

Zandilar wrote...

As for the quote from your good writer, I partially agree with it. Understanding science is a plus for sci fi, but one does not need to understand religion for fantasy - understanding of or knowledge of classical mythology is probably more important. 

I wondered it at first actually. Couldn't understand what has religion to do with Fantasy Fiction. It is not about religion systems or God. It is about how people see them, how they reacted to supernatural, how they see magic in thing we see as everyday occasions (lightnings, fire, storms etc.). So as you say classical mythology also belongs to it as much as it belong to religion as they are mostly reflection of those societies religion (like Greek or Egyptian ones).

I know it pisses off modern practicing theists to hear, but their religion actually IS mythology.

People always assume mythology = a lie for some reason, and that's not true. So in a sense, they're the same thing, and when one says their religion is mythology does not mean they are saying their religion is false or a lie.

And as for romances I would have liked to see, I would have really liked a F/F Jack romance. Didn't make much sense that it wasn't an option. I suppose they were afraid of being steriotypical because she had a shaved head and a bad attitude? I really don't know.

Modifié par Ailith430, 15 mars 2012 - 12:59 .