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[Abispa]

Siansonea II wrote...

Back to the main point though, I like Kaidan and Cortez. When I did my gay Sentinel playthrough, I felt really torn, I wasn't expecting that. I thought I was going to be able to dismiss Steve as an LI pretty easily. I was very happy that BioWare gave us two good m/m romances. I was less pleased with the f/f options though. That's the real bummer of ME3, that the very promising human f/f pairing comes off as truncated. I can only really compare her to Cortez, but I just felt Samantha could have been more than she was. I wanted to know about her family, I wanted to know more about her life in general. The galaxy is going to hell in a handbasket, and she comes off rather like she doesn't quite get what's at stake sometimes. I liked her moments when she's talking about intel she's found and analyzed and Shepard's interactions with her after the missions are complete, but I found most of EDI's interjections in these conversations to be patronizing and condescending. Like EDI couldn't have analyzed all that data herself?

"Straight" female Shepard got screwed in quantity and "lesbian" Shepard got screwed in quality is what I gather reading all the comments.

[Knightly_BW]

Daashi wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

I dont really see how you can be ninjamanced by steve when he only ever flirts with you if you pick the clearly marked flirting option and proceed to tell him you are looking for the right man

you have to be blind to somehow be locked into a relationship with him

People are idiots!?!

That would be my answer.

Yeah! Like I said several posts before you get more renegade points for refusing pimping EDI to Joker. 

This game, like all Bioware game about choices. All choices have an outcome. Instead of clicking goody-two-shoes answer if they try to understand what's been said in a conversation or give some attention to story at hand no one can be "ninjamanced".

Everyone can blame devs for being something something, however they don't want to blame themselves with  being witless idiots. I wonder if they answer any question in real life with "I was waiting for the right man" then whine about a guy is harrassing them.

Modifié par Asperius, 16 mars 2012 - 10:11 .

[Akrim_Drak]

One of my straight ladyfriends ninjamanced Samantha. I laughed so damn hard when she told me. I was like "She asks you to take a shower WITH YOU IN THE ROOM, then you have to CHOOSE to join her, how the hell do you "accidentally" do that!" Was so hilarious. She's cool with homosexuality and all so it was just a laugh for us both(and we've been fighting over Kaidan ) I'll forever laugh at her for unlocking Paramour in a lesbian relationship.

Edit: She's an editor for a major newspaper in her state so she's not like dumb or blazing past dialogue or anything, just off or something.

Modifié par Akrim_Drak, 16 mars 2012 - 10:19 .

[Abispa]

Asperius wrote...

Everyone can blame devs for being something something, however they don't want to blame themselves with  being witless idiots. I wonder if they answer any question in real life with "I was waiting for the right man" then whine about a guy is harrassing them.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! When I tell guys, "I was waiting for the right man," I'm really just telling them I'm looking for an awesome bro to go out drinking with, crush beer cans on our foreheads, and make constant wolf whistles at girls taking part in wet t-shirt contests! It's politically correct stuff like ME3 that is making it that much harder to do normal guy stuff with other guys!



*Best EDI impersonation I can manage* That was a joke.

[Akrim_Drak]

Abispa wrote...

Asperius wrote...

Everyone can blame devs for being something something, however they don't want to blame themselves with  being witless idiots. I wonder if they answer any question in real life with "I was waiting for the right man" then whine about a guy is harrassing them.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! When I tell guys, "I was waiting for the right man," I'm really just telling them I'm looking for an awesome bro to go out drinking with, crush beer cans on our foreheads, and make constant wolf whistles at girls taking part in wet t-shirt contests! It's politically correct stuff like ME3 that is making it that much harder to do normal guy stuff with other guys!



*Best EDI impersonation I can manage* That was a joke.

The way Cortez's VA reads that "Who says I'm not." in response to the "Why aren't you looking over here?" line is SOOOO freaking sexual, I was like "omg he wants to do all kinds of bad things to me! Run Shepard, run... slowly!" Anyone who ninjamances Steve seriously has issues.

[shepskisaac]

I love the way he says "Who says I'm not" ;P

[breyant]

IsaacShep wrote...

I love the way he says "Who says I'm not" ;P

I love everything he says.

His voice actor is seriously great.

[shepskisaac]

breyant wrote...
I love everything he says.

His voice actor is seriously great.

My favourite lines of his are from the sex scene - "You have that effect on people". He says it soooo perfectly, acting calm lines like that is the hardest but he just does it great

[Abispa]

Like I said before, I usually don't do the gay romances unless I'm just running through a game to try out all the options for the hell of it, but even from just a "friend" standpoint Steve is one of the better characters in the game. I haven't tried the Samantha romance, but I definite did NOT find her "friendship" to be much more than filler. I almost feel the same about her as the Jacob non-fans feel about him, only without the blind hatred.

Modifié par Abispa, 16 mars 2012 - 11:10 .

[Zandilar]

syllogi wrote...
Now, jumping in the shower with Samantha...that was just weird.  And while obviously Samantha wants Shepard to make the move, I felt like that whole scene was bad porn material.  I can't see any Shepard of mine wanting to initiate a romance that way, and it's a shame, since Samantha seems nice otherwise.  It also sucks that even her friendship seems lacking compared to Steve's.  I really have to wonder what the reasoning was behind it.

Everyone keeps calling that scene (bad) porn, but it's not porn, even though it is bad, given what they were aiming for and how it came out in the end... It's hillarious. Comedy gold, even. The animations, the facial expressions... I was LOLing all the time I was stepping back and reloading, as my main Shep's heart belongs to Liara. (I do plan to follow through with the Samance on my next playthrough, if I ever manage to get to it between Uni and SWTOR.)

They could have done SO much better with that scene. I wouldn't even mind if it WAS soft-core pornography - the context of the scene is poigniant, the galaxy is being destroyed piece by piece, and neither Sam nor Shepard knows how much longer they've got. So jumping into the shower with each other and/or having sex before really getting to know each other actually makes sense. It makes a whole lot more sense than trying to take it slowly, because they could all be dead the next day.

I get that it makes some people uncomfortable, so maybe it really wasn't the best way to have Sam or Shepard initiate the romance - but I think there's not a lot of room for taking things slowly when the galaxy is falling apart around them.

[ElitePinecone]

Tom Bissell suggested Bioware stop doing 'sex' scenes completely, since they're usually so horrifically awkward:

http://www.grantland...n-mass-effect-3

I'd have to agree, honestly - they add almost nothing to the LI arc, they're really clunky and I don't know why Bioware keeps putting them in except to cater to fans.

For some reason they never really hit the same tone as they did in the first ME, and instead of 'artistically tasteful' it looks like a trainwreck.

Then there's stuff like femShep/Sam...

Modifié par ElitePinecone, 17 mars 2012 - 03:29 .

[Arik7]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Tom Bissell suggested Bioware stop doing 'sex' scenes completely, since they're usually so horrifically awkward:

http://www.grantland...n-mass-effect-3

I'd have to agree, honestly - they add almost nothing to the LI arc, they're really clunky and I don't know why Bioware keeps putting them in except to cater to fans.

For some reason they never really hit the same tone as they did in the first ME, and instead of 'artistically tasteful' it looks like a trainwreck.

Then there's stuff like femShep/Sam...

I enjoyed the mShep/Kaidan love scene....   Yes rolling in bed in underwear is a little strange, but you know what they meant,,, but yes ME1 style would work even better...

[Cuddlezarro]

ElitePinecone wrote...

Tom Bissell suggested Bioware stop doing 'sex' scenes completely, since they're usually so horrifically awkward:

http://www.grantland...n-mass-effect-3

I'd have to agree, honestly - they add almost nothing to the LI arc, they're really clunky and I don't know why Bioware keeps putting them in except to cater to fans.

For some reason they never really hit the same tone as they did in the first ME, and instead of 'artistically tasteful' it looks like a trainwreck.

Then there's stuff like femShep/Sam...

steve got a fade to black like the old days of bioware rpgs =3

though i find it odd the cuddle scene after the dream didnt get a blanket ontop of them...

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 17 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[shepskisaac]

Cuddlezarro wrote...
though i find it odd the cuddle scene after the dream didnt get a blanket ontop of them...

I'm glad there was no blanket. It looks awful lol. Did you see it in Liara's sex scene? Looks like a piece of rock covering her boobs xD

[Game_Fan_85]

Daashi wrote...

luukee wrote...

By the beard of Zeus, pray, tell me friend how do you mod the xbox into romancing Kaidan. 

Snip...

Aha, so it does work like the PC version.  I was looking at the files of my ripped ME1 and found the file that gets changed in the PC version but could not see anything about gender.  I will have to try this A.S.A.P.  Using my glitch hack I might not need to mess with USB stcks.

Asperius wrote...
LOL!

That remind me how my mind wandered everytime TIM mentions they rebuild Shepard as he was.

Did Miranda handled important parts?

How did they know exact size?

Could they find Shepard's junk at all?

Heh, I couldn't help but have a similar thought during the video logs, and a few times during ME2.  Just how did they know how to rebuild Shep "exactly" as he was born?  There'd be no problem with FemShep and her chest as BioWare uses the same model for every female in every game, .

[Game_Fan_85]

syllogi wrote...

Now, jumping in the shower with Samantha...that was just weird.  And while obviously Samantha wants Shepard to make the move, I felt like that whole scene was bad porn material.

And absolutley, 100% aimed at female players right?

[Game_Fan_85]

Abispa wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

I dont really see how you can be ninjamanced by steve when he only ever flirts with you if you pick the clearly marked flirting option and proceed to tell him you are looking for the right man

you have to be blind to somehow be locked into a relationship with him

Not only that. After telling him that you're waiting for the right man, you have to agree to dance with him and then you have to tell him you want to be with him. Only after that you're locked in the romance. That's why I'm like when I read complaints that someone got "ninjamanced" by Steve. You have to be an idiot to get ninjamanced by him. I mean, how more clear "waiting for the right man + I want more than friendship" could be???

I agree that you are free to be as nice as you possibly can to Steve WITH NO WORRIES about a ninjamance, but the problem is that Bioware has a track record. If Steve has existed in DA:O, ME1. or ME2, he would already be planning your wedding after the second conversations if you didn't treat him like a jerk. And if you ever said, "I'm there for you, Steve." after the personal video, you'd be locked into a bedroom scene with him even if you were female Shepard.

My best friend is playing ME3 now and really loving it which surprised me because I didn't think it would his type of game.  I think I told him about Steve's character before he started.  I was asking about how his game is going and told him he better be nice to Steve.  He said he was but he picked whatever the opposite of "I'm here for you Steve" during the crying scene so I told him he WAS mean.  I can see lots of straight guys doing that, being worried the gay guy is going to jump their character in the next scene.  I told him not to worry, being nice to the guy wont make Shepard gay.  I have a feeling he will die at the end of his game somehow, haha.

Modifié par Game_Fan_85, 17 mars 2012 - 04:49 .

[Quething]

I also think part of the thing with ninjamances is just that people, for some reason, can't separate "option to begin romance" from "in a romance." If I had a dollar for every person on the LJ comm I've seen say "oh I accidentally got in a relationship with Sam, we were talking and then suddenly the dialog wheel is asking me if I want to get in the shower with her," I would be a rich, rich person. And these aren't stupid or homophobic people; they all just clicked the decline option and didn't shag her and moved on to romance Kaidan or whatever, and none of them are bothered by the idea that they were briefly in a gay relationship with their yeoman-substitute. But they weren't and I am still perpetually baffled by how they can possibly think they were.

[Daashi]

Quething wrote...

I also think part of the thing with ninjamances is just that people, for some reason, can't separate "option to begin romance" from "in a romance." If I had a dollar for every person on the LJ comm I've seen say "oh I accidentally got in a relationship with Sam, we were talking and then suddenly the dialog wheel is asking me if I want to get in the shower with her," I would be a rich, rich person. And these aren't stupid or homophobic people; they all just clicked the decline option and didn't shag her and moved on to romance Kaidan or whatever, and none of them are bothered by the idea that they were briefly in a gay relationship with their yeoman-substitute. But they weren't and I am still perpetually baffled by how they can possibly think they were.

My theory still stands.

Some people are just idiots.

[Cuddlezarro]

Daashi wrote...

Quething wrote...

I also think part of the thing with ninjamances is just that people, for some reason, can't separate "option to begin romance" from "in a romance." If I had a dollar for every person on the LJ comm I've seen say "oh I accidentally got in a relationship with Sam, we were talking and then suddenly the dialog wheel is asking me if I want to get in the shower with her," I would be a rich, rich person. And these aren't stupid or homophobic people; they all just clicked the decline option and didn't shag her and moved on to romance Kaidan or whatever, and none of them are bothered by the idea that they were briefly in a gay relationship with their yeoman-substitute. But they weren't and I am still perpetually baffled by how they can possibly think they were.

My theory still stands.

Some people are just idiots.

^this

its not like say dragon age where you can say something like "I like shoes" and have the bisexual female rogue want to jump in your pants they are labled pretty clearly in this game

[bleetman]

Leliana was an unstoppable juggernaught of love. She would not be denied.

[Daashi]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

^this

its not like say dragon age where you can say something like "I like shoes" and have the bisexual female rogue want to jump in your pants they are labled pretty clearly in this game

God Leliana! I loved her, just not like that! One moment we were having a girly discussion about Alistair's performance and next thing I knew she was declairing her love for me and talking about how close we were and about how she thought she would never have a relationship like that ever again, but now she does.

Wait, what!?!

Modifié par Daashi, 17 mars 2012 - 05:23 .

[ElitePinecone]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

its not like say dragon age where you can say something like "I like shoes" and have the bisexual female rogue want to jump in your pants they are labled pretty clearly in this game

I thought everyone knew that professing a love for footwear is an accepted wooing practice in Thedas. 

(and DA2's flirt icons made that *a lot* less ambiguous)

[MACharlie1]

This thread needs more love.

Yes. I am just looking for an excuse to post images of my Shep and Kaidan finally (after three games) consummating.