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Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.

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ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3

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SinnSly wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3


Ah, thank you. Disappointing.

Nevermind, I'm halfway through a Liaramance on another Shep. I think I'll just finish the game with that one instead.

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ReallyRue wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3


Ah, thank you. Disappointing.

Nevermind, I'm halfway through a Liaramance on another Shep. I think I'll just finish the game with that one instead.


I thought it was disapointing too :/ Romanced no-one in my first ME3 playthrough as I was hoping Ash was a femshep LI

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Laamaa wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3


Ah, thank you. Disappointing.

Nevermind, I'm halfway through a Liaramance on another Shep. I think I'll just finish the game with that one instead.


I thought it was disapointing too :/ Romanced no-one in my first ME3 playthrough as I was hoping Ash was a femshep LI


I was gonna do a seperate Shep for Jack romance but no.. I get screwed over for the hotty with the tattoo's.. AGAIN D:

Still, Forever loyal to Liara :)

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SinnSly wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3

Wow...that page needs some serious formatting and clean up. 

Too bad Wikis tend to reverse my changes whenever I try to help. :mellow:

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MACharlie1 wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3

Wow...that page needs some serious formatting and clean up. 

Too bad Wikis tend to reverse my changes whenever I try to help. :mellow:


I know how you feel, I once edited some stuff that they got wrong badly, next day they changed it back and banned me on my account on there =l

I was like: WTF I edited your crappy info and I get banned?!

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Thank you. It is just as I "remember" it. Only I seem to recall that Vega was doing the Chip N Dale dance routine at the reception.

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chunheichunheichunhei !

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The reports of my demise have been exaggerated. I am sure the Cerberus assassins must have lied in the report to cover their asses from TIM. At least this way I will not be expected to pay taxes.

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From Wikipedia...

There is a glitch in Mass Effect 3, where if you are continuing a relationship with Tali from Mass Effect 2 only for her to die during the battle to retake Rannoch, she will still appear to you before the assault on the Cerberus base as though she had survived.


Wow. Xenophilia AND necrophilia. But it is not controversial since her relationship is o/s.

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Chun Hei wrote...

Thank you. It is just as I "remember" it. Only I seem to recall that Vega was doing the Chip N Dale dance routine at the reception.



Oh, my - you've just given me an idea for another drawing!  I'll call it "The Reception" and James will be the entertainment.


Remind me to consult with you before I commission Miss Aimo for more ME-inspired artwork. Posted Image

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I was playing ME3 and just wanted to know if anyone else got the line from Kaidan (for their male Shepard) about; "want to be friends, perhaps more" concerning Horizon before you even start flirting with him. I honesty thought that line was specific to a ME1 romanced Kaidan.

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Sorry to ask again but I was never clear on some points.  You played ME1 romancing Ashley?  I wasn't sure if you modded an ME2 file to make ME3 think you romanced her or if you played through ME1&2 in full.  As I said a bit back, I could not find an ME1 save editor, only ME2 and it does not work with 360 ME1 saves.  I achieved it by ripping the files from within the save (player.sav, state.sav, WorldSavePackage.sav) and used a hex editor to change the way the other characters in the game see Shepard.  Sorry to ask again.


You can look up my earlier post for detailed instructions on how I did it but in short I did the following
- moved my xbox ME2 career to a usb stick
- used modio to open my carreer (back it up at this point)
- used gibbed ME2 save editor on an ME2 post end save to change my ME1 decisions to having romanced Ashley and removed the romance settings for Liara
- used modio to copy the new save back into my career
- copyed the career back to xbox HD
- play  through the game
- There is one gender flag check at the citadel cafe scene before you speak with Ashley use Gibbed's ME3 save game editor to change the isFemale flag to false. 
- go through this scene with what will look like a huskified FemShep model (this kind of adds to the charm in a way because of the sacrifice my FemShep had to endure to win the love of her life)
- once that scene is done edit the save to set isFemale back to true.  To be sure double check that AshleyTrueLove is now set to true but if you did the dialog and everythign right it should be.- Now you can finish the game and enjoy a beautiful SS romance with an occasional voice change (thankfully it isn't too bad) and silent dialog.

Modifié par Aurellia, 18 mars 2012 - 08:01 .


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Daashi wrote...

I was playing ME3 and just wanted to know if anyone else got the line from Kaidan (for their male Shepard) about; "want to be friends, perhaps more" concerning Horizon before you even start flirting with him. I honesty thought that line was specific to a ME1 romanced Kaidan.

When and where does he say this, exactly? On Mars? I don't remember that line from the conversations in the hospital.

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goodventure wrote...

Daashi wrote...

I was playing ME3 and just wanted to know if anyone else got the line from Kaidan (for their male Shepard) about; "want to be friends, perhaps more" concerning Horizon before you even start flirting with him. I honesty thought that line was specific to a ME1 romanced Kaidan.

When and where does he say this, exactly? On Mars? I don't remember that line from the conversations in the hospital.


It was the second hospital visit. When he wakes up and sends you a message.

We were talking about Horizon and getting past it and mentions about; "being friends or more". And I had yet get around to talking about his biotics. Like I said, I thought this was a line from ME1 romanced Kaidan.

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SinnSly wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

ReallyRue wrote...

Could I ask a quick question?

Who are the f/f options in ME3 - is it Sam and Liara? I've been holding out for Ashley, but I think I'm almost at the end of the game now, and I still haven't had an option to initiate a romance with her and femShep.


http://masseffect.wi...ance_options_3

Wow...that page needs some serious formatting and clean up. 

Too bad Wikis tend to reverse my changes whenever I try to help. :mellow:


I know how you feel, I once edited some stuff that they got wrong badly, next day they changed it back and banned me on my account on there =l

I was like: WTF I edited your crappy info and I get banned?!

Really? Why? :mellow: I was about to make some changes (better Cortez pic). Why start a Wiki if you don't want other people to add to it? :mellow:

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IsaacShep wrote...

SinnSly wrote...

I know how you feel, I once edited some stuff that they got wrong badly, next day they changed it back and banned me on my account on there =l

I was like: WTF I edited your crappy info and I get banned?!


Really? Why? :mellow: I was about to make some changes (better Cortez pic). Why start a Wiki if you don't want other people to add to it? :mellow:


Because some people seem to think that they are all that and if they don't know it than it is worth s***. But then that could be just some of the a***holes I know.

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Daashi wrote...

goodventure wrote...

Daashi wrote...

I was playing ME3 and just wanted to know if anyone else got the line from Kaidan (for their male Shepard) about; "want to be friends, perhaps more" concerning Horizon before you even start flirting with him. I honesty thought that line was specific to a ME1 romanced Kaidan.

When and where does he say this, exactly? On Mars? I don't remember that line from the conversations in the hospital.


It was the second hospital visit. When he wakes up and sends you a message.

We were talking about Horizon and getting past it and mentions about; "being friends or more". And I had yet get around to talking about his biotics. Like I said, I thought this was a line from ME1 romanced Kaidan.


Has your Shepard romanced anyone yet? I read somewhere on the dark depths of the internet a few days ago that this kind of Kadian dialogue happens when Shep hasn't been with anyone else. My headcannon is that Kaidan thinks Shep might like him and vice versa but both have been quiet about it. I have yet to try it out though, but you might be evidence of it working.

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luukee wrote...

Daashi wrote...

goodventure wrote...

Daashi wrote...

I was playing ME3 and just wanted to know if anyone else got the line from Kaidan (for their male Shepard) about; "want to be friends, perhaps more" concerning Horizon before you even start flirting with him. I honesty thought that line was specific to a ME1 romanced Kaidan.

When and where does he say this, exactly? On Mars? I don't remember that line from the conversations in the hospital.


It was the second hospital visit. When he wakes up and sends you a message.

We were talking about Horizon and getting past it and mentions about; "being friends or more". And I had yet get around to talking about his biotics. Like I said, I thought this was a line from ME1 romanced Kaidan.


Has your Shepard romanced anyone yet? I read somewhere on the dark depths of the internet a few days ago that this kind of Kadian dialogue happens when Shep hasn't been with anyone else. My headcannon is that Kaidan thinks Shep might like him and vice versa but both have been quiet about it. I have yet to try it out though, but you might be evidence of it working.


And to think I was so worried that I might of accidently of set off the romance flags for Ashley in that game save.

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Well second playthrough finally completed and my like for this game just get lower.

Now I can understand if some straight players complain about they are ninjamanced by Kaidan. First in hospital they will get "are you flirting with me?" and their brother-in-arms suddenly turns to a gay. Then their Shep becomes gay by asking Kaidan if he flirts with him. What???? It's very short sighted act on Bioware's account.

Okay moving on let's say you are a gay player. Your Shep romances with Kaidan and trying to be friend to Steve. Then comes Purgatory scene where he mentions "eye-candy" in the crowd. Your Shep has two options to reply. One is where he questions Steve for not checking him out. Other is "I prefer ladies"... Sorry but I never ask that kind of question to someone I see as a friend.

Anyway second playthrough really gave me cold feet from ME3. With messages around saying how poorly Samantha romance is done I think my lesbian Shep will never leave Earth.

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Daashi wrote...

luukee wrote...

Daashi wrote...

goodventure wrote...

Daashi wrote...

I was playing ME3 and just wanted to know if anyone else got the line from Kaidan (for their male Shepard) about; "want to be friends, perhaps more" concerning Horizon before you even start flirting with him. I honesty thought that line was specific to a ME1 romanced Kaidan.

When and where does he say this, exactly? On Mars? I don't remember that line from the conversations in the hospital.


It was the second hospital visit. When he wakes up and sends you a message.

We were talking about Horizon and getting past it and mentions about; "being friends or more". And I had yet get around to talking about his biotics. Like I said, I thought this was a line from ME1 romanced Kaidan.


Has your Shepard romanced anyone yet? I read somewhere on the dark depths of the internet a few days ago that this kind of Kadian dialogue happens when Shep hasn't been with anyone else. My headcannon is that Kaidan thinks Shep might like him and vice versa but both have been quiet about it. I have yet to try it out though, but you might be evidence of it working.


And to think I was so worried that I might of accidently of set off the romance flags for Ashley in that game save.


Ooh okay so I wanted to test out your idea about non-Romance Shep.  I loaded up a save with my PS3 Shepard.  Seeing as PS3 doesn't have ME1, I chose to romance nobody in the Genesis comic and I didn't romance anyone in ME2. I replayed my conversation with Kaidan at the point you were talking about.  The first option I chose was about Horizon.  This is what they said:

Shepard: "Are we gonna be able to get past Horizon?"

Kaidan: "I'd like to, Shepard.  I'd like to move past the harsh words and be… friends, at least."


Shepard: "So how do we fix it?"

Kaidan: "I'll admit, I own a lot of that.  You were standing right in front of me, and I was… I shut you down. I'm sorry."

Shepard: "Okay."

Kaidan: "Okay. So, let's just put it behind us and get on with what's important right now."

Shepard: "Bury it?"

Kaidan: "Bury it. Forgive it… I think that's how we get past Horizon."


I take it that this dialogue isn't what you were referring to?  Because I didn't get lines about wanting more than a friendship.

Modifié par goodventure, 19 mars 2012 - 07:51 .


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goodventure wrote...


Shepard: "Are we gonna be able to get past Horizon?"

Kaidan: "I'd like to, Shepard.  I'd like to move past the harsh words and be… friends, at least."

Shepard: "So how do we fix it?"

Kaidan: "I'll admit, I own a lot of that.  you were standing right in front of me, and I was… I hut you down. I'm sorry."

Shepard: "Okay."

Kaidan: "Okay. So, let's just put it behind us and get on with what's important right now."

Shepard: "Bury it?"

Kaidan: "Bury it. Forgive it… I think that's how we get past Horizon."


I take it that this dialogue isn't what you were referring to?  Because I didn't get lines about wanting more than a friendship.


Same conversation with my un romanced Shepard also.

However I know Shep saves from ME1 have several numeric variables for romances. I know 4 is for romanced but on some saves Ashley have 5 or Kaidan have 6, while sometimes it is 2 or 3. I don't know if those means something.

Maybe it is related to that.

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I watched Dana's video for modded ManShep romance with Kaidan in ME1 (http://www.youtube.c...2sHdGVA#t=297s' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>link: http://www.youtube.com/watch), and Kaidan does say this line in response to being asked about how to get past Horizon:

Kaidan: "I'd like to Shepard. As friends... as more than friends.  I mean, I don't know, I just like having you in my life."

... if you got this line without modding ManShep, I'll be slightly surprised, because I believe that is for romanced ME1 Kaidan, or at least a FemShep.  Did you give him the whiskey for this conversation?

I'm going to test out my 360 Shepard, but he romanced Liara in ME1.

Modifié par goodventure, 19 mars 2012 - 08:17 .


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Asperius wrote...

Well second playthrough finally completed and my like for this game just get lower.

Now I can understand if some straight players complain about they are ninjamanced by Kaidan. First in hospital they will get "are you flirting with me?" and their brother-in-arms suddenly turns to a gay. Then their Shep becomes gay by asking Kaidan if he flirts with him. What???? It's very short sighted act on Bioware's account.

Okay moving on let's say you are a gay player. Your Shep romances with Kaidan and trying to be friend to Steve. Then comes Purgatory scene where he mentions "eye-candy" in the crowd. Your Shep has two options to reply. One is where he questions Steve for not checking him out. Other is "I prefer ladies"... Sorry but I never ask that kind of question to someone I see as a friend.

Anyway second playthrough really gave me cold feet from ME3. With messages around saying how poorly Samantha romance is done I think my lesbian Shep will never leave Earth.


Huh?

You can say Shepard is eye candy (the first gateway dialogue), mention you've been waiting for the right man (second one) then decline Cortez's offer to dance (the third one). Cortez never asks Shepard about their sexuality; the ladies line is a response to Cortez talking about the hot menz in the crowd ("oh you like A, I'll be looking at B"). 

Even then, I think there's a fourth option to dance but decline any actual romance.

It's really easy to play as a gay character while not romancing Steve. 

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Even then, I think there's a fourth option to dance but decline any actual romance.

Yes there is. Unfortunately, if you do romance Kaidan, Steve turns you down immediately and you don't get to dance with him. So: Steve -> dance -> turn him down -> Kaidan... If you wish to, well, dance :). If you romance Kaidan before, jos can just drink. Steve is actually aware of you and Kaidan and turns you down.

BTW, if you choose to dance alone on the floor, the animation is the same as in ME2 Samara's loyalty mission if you don't pick paragon option with the asari. M.