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#2651
khevan

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android654 wrote...

We've probably discussed this a bunch of times before, but I'm a bit curious what others have to say about this topic.

Why do you think a lot of ME fans aren't too fond of Jack? What is it about her that makes you like her over other characters?



I'm a bit late to this party, but I figured I'd throw my two cents in.

I was originally put off by Jack's attitude.  She seemed over the top in a not-so-good way, like the writers were trying too hard to make her into the "bad girl."  I almost didn't explore her character much further because of that, but I'm glad I did.  I still think the writers took her a little too far, but that's just personal opinion, and it's a minor quibble at best.

I think the thing I like the best about Jack is how her character evolves over the course of the game.  She remains the same brash, loud, foul-mouthed woman throughout, but her walls start slowly breaking down as the romance progresses.

Her entire life has been filled with people who use her, take what they want, and leave her.  She's got severe attachment issues, abandonment issues, trust issues, take your pick, but they all make sense.  With Shepard, and by extension the team, she finally finds a place of (relative) stability.  A Shepard that romances her doesn't just take, doesn't just use her.  He listens, without any other overt expectations.  At least, that's how I personally see it.  He doesn't fit into Jack's expectations about how her world works, and it throws her.  That's why she's so emotional when she comes to him before the suicide mission.  She's finally letting all her walls down, letting herself be vulnerable to the one person who has earned her trust.

I've heard people talk about Shepard having the "healing dick" when it comes to Jack, but I disagree.  I feel that it totally fits Jack's story arc for her "healing" to take place during the romance, because it takes such an emotionally intimate (not talking about sex, you pervs...Posted Image) relationship, a person willing to be that emotional rock for her that finally allows Jack to let her guard down.  The physical intimacy at the culmination of the romance is a natural progression, but it's not what "heals" her.  She had to be "healed" before the relationship could get to that point.  And yes, I'm using the word healed very loosely.  She still has issues, and probably always will, but something in her softened during the romance, enough to let Shepard past her walls. 

While I fully agree that some degree of "healing" should have been available to a friendship path, I honestly think that it makes sense for the romance to be the way it is.

#2652
ZaroktheImmortal

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I saw this posted on a Jack facebook page.

i.imgur.com/mY0Jz.png

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Modifié par ZaroktheImmortal, 30 décembre 2011 - 07:53 .


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Soviet Rei

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Also, I just have to ask this.

Does anyone know if there's an image of Jack's DLC costume without the shades? Because I love the DLC costume but the shades just completely ruin it.

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Soviet Rei wrote...

Also, I just have to ask this.

Does anyone know if there's an image of Jack's DLC costume without the shades? Because I love the DLC costume but the shades just completely ruin it.


If there is one I haven't seen it. I've been looking for one myself.

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'tis bad that Jack will no longer be bald.

#2656
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khevan wrote...


I've heard people talk about Shepard having the "healing dick" when it comes to Jack, but I disagree.  I feel that it totally fits Jack's story arc for her "healing" to take place during the romance, because it takes such an emotionally intimate (not talking about sex, you pervs...Posted Image) relationship, a person willing to be that emotional rock for her that finally allows Jack to let her guard down.  The physical intimacy at the culmination of the romance is a natural progression, but it's not what "heals" her.  She had to be "healed" before the relationship could get to that point.  And yes, I'm using the word healed very loosely.  She still has issues, and probably always will, but something in her softened during the romance, enough to let Shepard past her walls. 

While I fully agree that some degree of "healing" should have been available to a friendship path, I honestly think that it makes sense for the romance to be the way it is.

 

well  at for me that was more as  knock on how the romance is presented... a couple of choices and few missions later and it time to hope in the sack. - its more of knock on how all the romance progress and are portayed in ME 2. I do agree with you post  though... I don't think she softened... i believe she always had the compacity some one the emotionally traumatize has too. I think that it was just had harden for  sheer survival and it was buried...bureid to the point that she may have forgotten it was there or never even new.  

 

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Think if you LI Jack in ME3, she'd send you poetry?

#2658
Shiro_the_Gambler

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aang001 wrote...

Think if you LI Jack in ME3, she'd send you poetry?


I would like this.

#2659
SlottsMachine

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Reciting poetry is Ashley's domain, and it should stay that way.

#2660
android654

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Jack actually makes her own poetry. Sorry, but she wins that one.

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Shiro_the_Gambler wrote...

aang001 wrote...

Think if you LI Jack in ME3, she'd send you poetry?


I would like this.


Me too! :wub:

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It's a little late, but it's in the spirit of the season:

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#2663
SlottsMachine

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Haven't seen that one before, very nice.

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

It's a little late, but it's in the spirit of the season:

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I don't know whether to be elated or horrified.

And combining the two just sounds wrong. 'Horrated' is not my reaction to this picture, that's for sure.

#2665
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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! WOOT!! Drawing this for you awesome people here on the forum!! <3 (It's still in progress.)

I wanted to make a "We can do it" poster with ME3 Jack. As you can see I gave her a stylish mohawk. What do you think? The blue biotic fire is just killing me though... I can't seem to get it right. :blink:

I was going to add the words: "Tear Cerberus a New One? -- I Can Do It!"

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Modifié par Nightfable, 01 janvier 2012 - 02:50 .


#2666
android654

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Was just almost headed out the door when my phone *dinged.* So I followed the email link and it brought me here.

Nightfable, you're pretty damn talented, and now I'm pumped to read your story.

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android654 wrote...

Was just almost headed out the door when my phone *dinged.* So I followed the email link and it brought me here.

Nightfable, you're pretty damn talented, and now I'm pumped to read your story.


Aw thanks Android 654, I'm trying to compasate for my really poor writing skills. I warn you, the story's not that great, lol. ^^

Modifié par Nightfable, 01 janvier 2012 - 04:44 .


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Nightfable wrote...
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Wow.  I'm loving your work, it keeps getting better and better. 

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Nightfable

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spiros9110 wrote...

Wow.  I'm loving your work, it keeps getting better and better. 


Thanks Spiros! I am trying a more realistic look. Tough to do! O.o

Modifié par Nightfable, 01 janvier 2012 - 05:58 .


#2670
SlottsMachine

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Count me as a fan too, Nightfable. Would love to see more.

#2671
Labrev

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^ Me three!

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Nightfable

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Thanks! :D

Modifié par Nightfable, 02 janvier 2012 - 12:41 .


#2673
Double_02

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Happy New Year, Jack fans.

#2674
Cultist

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Anyway, she'll be temporary or permanent squad member in ME3?

#2675
Shiro_the_Gambler

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According to the rumors; our beloved Jack will only be a temporary squad member. Which is a disappointment, if true.