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[Dr. Doctor]

android654 wrote...

That would've been cool, but if you read her leak, this doesn't apply to Jack. I'm a little perturbed as to how it'll all play out since I only read an outline of what she'll be doing. But, that wouldn't be fun to play, at least not her portion.

The outline really doesn't do Jack justice. The actual leaked script goes into a lot more detail about what she's doing and it doesn't disappoint.

[ZaroktheImmortal]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Manip. Y/N?

Well I'd say there is a resemblance there.

[What a Succulent Ass]

...Wut?

[rockstyle6]

Thats only one pic . I make it my onwn .
Have changed the backround and so , hope you like it .

 

the original : 3.bp.blogspot.com/-cCl5i7abykg/TbwuYnb2CKI/AAAAAAAAARM/Kgu_W8bl7O8/s1600/Mass%2BEffect%2B3%2BJack.jpg

Modifié par rockstyle6, 14 janvier 2012 - 05:00 .

[Confused-Shepard]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I'm actually wondering if we'll see Jack and her merry band pull off any of her old tricks:

Student: How the hell are we going to take out that Reaper?! The third fleet won't have orbital artillery support available for ten minutes!

Jack: Well it looks like we're going to need to engage in a little vandalism.

Student: How is spray painting something going to stop a giant robot hermit crab?!

Jack: We're not tagging it kid, vandalism is what the Hanar called it when I crashed a station into their favorite moon. Now, what do you know about causing orbital decay?

Student: M'am, I barely passed calculus.

Jack: Well, nothing beats hands on experience.

So how old are the students supposed to be? Younglings from STAR WARS or Wesley Crusher from Star Trek?

[What a Succulent Ass]

Teenagers.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Late teens, to be precise.

[10K]

rockstyle6 wrote...

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I love this. sooo awesome

[Dr. Doctor]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

So how old are the students supposed to be? Younglings from STAR WARS or Wesley Crusher from Star Trek?

As said before they're teenagers, Jack's pretty much leading the ME equivalent of the X-Men.

[What a Succulent Ass]

...And now I'm tempted to draw bald Jack in a wheelchair a la Professor Xavier.

[10K]

^^ LOL

[android654]

Its so bad, like cartoonish bad, they made her into a school teacher. This character would not be doing this. It looks like they struggled with finding something for her to do, and took the first suggestion someone made. There are at least half a dozen things I could better imagine her doing than this.

Modifié par android654, 14 janvier 2012 - 10:58 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

I can see her as a biotics instructor...but sometime in the future, not immediately after the SM, because honestly, I don't see her trusting anyone besides Shepard, or having even a grudging respect/like for anyone besides (some) of the Normandy's crew.

Of course, it really depends upon how it's handled in-game.

[Shiro_the_Gambler]

android654 wrote...

Its so bad, like cartoonish bad, they made her into a school teacher. This character would not be doing this. It looks like they struggled with finding something for her to do, and took the first suggestion someone made. There are at least half a dozen things I could better imagine her doing than this.

There is one specific instance where  her becoming a teacher I can buy.  A paragon romanced Jack might, I stress might, take to being a teacher.  That is really the only one.  Any other playthrough, then yeah I agree.  Stretching and unsure how to fit her in on Bioware's part.

[Labrev]

I still struggle to find how bad her ME3 role is that so many people say it is. I would expect it out of non-Jack fans, but here, I don't get the outcry.

You're either giving Jack's character too little credit, or school teachers too much (or both). Teachers are not always perfect. They can be incompetent, unqualified, not likeable, among many other potential issues. I don't see why Jack wouldn't work out as a teacher for kids w/ biotics. She definitely has talent of her own, and teenagers sound like an age-group she'd relate to really well.

[Dr. Doctor]

It depends, Jack's LM focuses on her resolving her past. Maybe she just decided that it was time to move on with her life? Of course there's always the chance that we'll find out in game:

(highlight)


Shepard: You're doing a good job with those students.
Jack: Yeah. I am. 'Cause I'm dependable now, apparently. I blame you for this, Shepard.

[What a Succulent Ass]

Damn. I think that dialogue just gave me diabeetus.

@Hah: I think her role is quite believable, just a bit soon. Realistically, a person with as traumatic a life as Jack has had wouldn't take to anyone but the few that have proven themselves. I can accept it in fiction, though. Especially since hanging around Shepard is like hanging around a reaper artefact. It's only a matter of time until you become indoctrinated.

[rockstyle6]

yes I dont like jacks part in ME3 , but I think i wouldnt be SO terrible when her main character ist still the same .
You know what I mean 

Modifié par rockstyle6, 15 janvier 2012 - 12:02 .

[android654]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

I still struggle to find how bad her ME3 role is that so many people say it is. I would expect it out of non-Jack fans, but here, I don't get the outcry.

You're either giving Jack's character too little credit, or school teachers too much (or both). Teachers are not always perfect. They can be incompetent, unqualified, not likeable, among many other potential issues. I don't see why Jack wouldn't work out as a teacher for kids w/ biotics. She definitely has talent of her own, and teenagers sound like an age-group she'd relate to really well.

The problem isn't that she couldn't be a school teacher, but rather that she wouldn't. Its not about her being dependable or reckless, but more about what would the character actually do.

If you ask me, if Jack had the compullsion to help children she wouldn't be doing it as a teacher in an Alliance biotic camp. Jack is the type of person who --if she were inclined to-- would help out using the methods she knows to work.

I expected her to be attacking Batarian slavers that were kidnapping children in their sleep from colonies in the Terminus system. Stopping a new Cerberus Teltin facility before it was able to steal biotic new borns from maternity wards and turn them into weapons like they did to her. Even finding and saving one biotic child from an experimental facility run by Cerberus/SB/Alliance and helping him/her to find their way home while on the run.

Its not like she can claim that these children remind her of herself. None of them were kept in the condition she was in. She may be helping, but considering what she's been through it wouldn't have the effect as if she were helping someone(s) in a similarly perilous situation.

Its very clear to me that Jack's a character that has a strong wanderlust, a strong will and even if she's doing the right thing, she wouldn't do it by someone else's methods, which is what they wrote her doing. It just seems like they castrated her.

[Labrev]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Damn. I think that dialogue just gave me diabeetus.

@Hah: I think her role is quite believable, just a bit soon. Realistically, a person with as traumatic a life as Jack has had wouldn't take to anyone but the few that have proven themselves. I can accept it in fiction, though. Especially since hanging around Shepard is like hanging around a reaper artefact. It's only a matter of time until you become indoctrinated.

That's why I buy her role, she's working with kids. I think it's an age-group that would receive her style very well and accept her too. And I don't think she'd need to be too worried about them or anything either.

As far as too soon, I'm not sure. I don't know much about people who go through serious childhood trauma. But, I the issue of time doesn't stand out to me or strike me odd. That's JMO.

[Labrev]

android654 wrote...

Its very clear to me that Jack's a character that has a strong wanderlust, a strong will and even if she's doing the right thing, she wouldn't do it by someone else's methods, which is what they wrote her doing.

Why not? She has to respect Shepard's authority on the mission for Cerbreus, I highly doubt his/her methods were completely in-line with her own. I mean, she even cooperated with Cerberus to get it done.

Kelly may have said it best, that Jack doesn't understand her own intentions. Up to the point we meet her, she's very misguided and lost. But since then, she's learned to be part of a team and cooperate, and she's put her past behind her in a big way as well. So I think that after an experience like that, I think she'd greatly welcome a change that would give her a sense of belonging/niche in the world where she otherwise never had one (apart from possibly the suicide-mission itself).

[rockstyle6]

Don't imagine jack now as a boring teacher , and the important is that you can continue the romance  <3
I would like something different but we can't change. 
We'll see how its going to be , just hope the best 

Modifié par rockstyle6, 15 janvier 2012 - 12:57 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

When I worked for my parents in an abuse shelter, I saw a lot of kids (mostly teens) who had been emotionally, physically, or sexually abused (or all of the above). Even many of the ones who suffered "only" verbal abuse were extremely fragile emotionally, were possessed of an extreme paranoia, had trouble trusting even kids their age or younger, and were prone to self-isolation.

The way her character is written (the tendency to push people away, exaggerate her abrasiveness, the nihilism, "reclaimation" of her body with tattoos) is quite true-to-life for trauma victims. A person who's experienced abuse may end up broken completely, self-destructive, or an abuser themselves. One of the things that impressed me most about Jack was that, realistically speaking, someone with Jack's background is far more likely to end up a psychopath, and though Jack likes to pretend she is, taking her even on a few missions will allow you significant glimpses of genuine empathy (amidst the swears) without making her character feel contrived. That's why I like her.

That being said, once someone like Jack makes an attachment, it doesn't apply to anyone else but the person in question (in this case, Shepard). Just because she accepts Shep's authority doesn't mean she wouldn't scorn external structure, stability, and discipline (even if she secretly wants it) -- especially if she's in the position to enforce it. A person who's only just learnt to depend on other people still wouldn't be quick to accept someone else depending on him or her. It usually takes some serious counselling to wade through all the attendant issues, and in Jack's case, most likely more than sixth months. That's why I said I find it a bit soon.

But, like I said, I can accept it as fiction. 'Specially since everyone drinks the Shepard Kool-Aid.

[SlottsMachine]

Excellent post. This thread has needed some of that.

[spirosz]

I don't know, I'm still excited for her role, but still being cautious about it at the same time. I think the one key thing about her role in ME3 is her perspective towards what she's getting herself into. Think about it, Biotics + kids = a chance of them becoming experimented on/be a target for attacks from Cerberus. To me, the thing that scares Jack the most is seeing someone go through what she went through. Now she has a chance to "protect" them in a sense, give them examples of real life experiences, make them aware of the dangers that lurk out there, especially for being a biotic. Which is why I find her role to be quite suitable because of those factors and remember, still has to ADJUST, she isn't going to one of those "perfect" teachers, she's just going to be someone who's been through a lot of **** and will try to help in the best way she can.

The only thing that concerns me is the time frame between the suicide mission and the present time in ME3. Again though, it is a game, you can only expect so much; especially one character.

Modifié par spiros9110, 15 janvier 2012 - 02:27 .