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This is true. But my whole goal from the beginning has been to destroy the reapers. Taking over the controls or merging everyone into some weird organic/synthetic combination didnt really make a whole lot of sense. Of course nothing in the last 10 minutes or so made sense so its kinda a moot point.

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GothamLord wrote...

This is true. But my whole goal from the beginning has been to destroy the reapers. Taking over the controls or merging everyone into some weird organic/synthetic combination didnt really make a whole lot of sense. Of course nothing in the last 10 minutes or so made sense so its kinda a moot point.


lol exactly!!

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I haven't seen the endings, I don't really want to actually. I've heard of them. I thought that instead of writing a fanfic, I could make a short comic with Jack rescuing Shepard who's barely alive in the rubble. I don't know where she ends up in the end, but I'd like to think that being with Shepard is more important to her then she lets on in the game... and that she would do whatever it takes to make sure he survives.

I drew this today for fun, let me know if you guys would like to see more. You can send me some ideas... I like the tattooed bands someone mentioned. ^^

http://i8.photobucke...-me3-rescue.png

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Omg, please make more!  :wub:  I love this idea.  Just more evidence of the Jackolytes being an extremely creative and talented bunch.

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

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This is what I've been complaining about as well... I'm guess Jack isn't as popular with other people or simply everyone is so focused on the HORRIBLE ending to nitpick with this but I really, really loved Jacks story. 

It really did feel disconnected in the bar scene.. like, come on Jack I didn't give up on you before the suicide mission why would I give up on now when I could die at any moment? Why would SHE want to give up on that? Shepard helped her through some major emotional turmoil, she should be bouncing off the walls to see him and want to be with him... it's ridiculous and lazy and a way to have Jack not be involved. She was my favorite character cause she was so deep once you peeled some of the security layers away. 

Let's just be honest with each other, as Jack fans.... Bioware ****ed us over big time and we're going to have to headcanon the fact that there was more going on between them in the game. Ridiculous I know. 


Jack was enthusiastic, in her own way, to see Shepard at Grissom
Academy.  The punching, the anger, the sarcasm, and then the humor, and receptiveness to being grabbed and kissed.  Then, at the bar, she's almost completely neutral to Shepard, even if romanced.  One thing that bothered me is how her tone really changes between the previous line, and the next line, where she says "I'm not like you.  I don't run off when people are depending on me."  It makes the whole conversation sound very canned, despite Ms. Taylor's excellent voice-acting.  There's no personal contact, no nothing.  Miranda and Shepard get busy, but only if Miranda is romanced.  Jack and Shepard go dancing, romanced or not.  Why?  :(


The not seeing Jack thing is not a bug, I went through .bik files... all the flash back scenes are there, they only include the ME1 love interests. AAARRGGGHH!!!! /rage

Also, the Grissom Academy meeting was just fine in my book, the punching the kiss and snarky humor were all fine. It's everything afterwards that just sucks ass, like you mention at the bar scene. The 
"I'm not like you.  I don't run off when people are depending on me"  literally made no sense to me.... like I understand theyre depending on you but SO WOULD I JACK.. need some help SAVING THE FARKIN GALAXY HERE MY LOVE... but nope. Also, I've said time and again there's no way she wouldn't come see him for a last encounter before they all go to their possible deaths no matter how much of a hard ass she is... we saw her soft side in ME2... she made us wait then for a reason but I see no reason to postpone it after paragoning her, makes no sense. 

I swear I will **** and moan about this till I die... I don't know why I'm so upset about it, I just really liked her character and wanted some justice done for it. 

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I'll put the below in "spoilers".  It pertains to doing the Grissom Academy mission too late:

When you assault the Cerberus base at the end of the game, you find an audio file of Jack talking trash and then screaming as she's being operated on. Later, you encounter a phantom who yells "I will DESTROY you!" in Jack's voice.

I remember a while ago, reading on Courtenay Taylor's Twitter, that she had recorded some lines that made her cry.  Ever since then, I wondered what it was that she was recording that would make her cry.  I guess those must have been the lines.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 09 mars 2012 - 11:15 .


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Militarized wrote...

The not seeing Jack thing is not a bug, I went through .bik files... all the flash back scenes are there, they only include the ME1 love interests. AAARRGGGHH!!!! /rage

Also, the Grissom Academy meeting was just fine in my book, the punching the kiss and snarky humor were all fine. It's everything afterwards that just sucks ass, like you mention at the bar scene. The 
"I'm not like you.  I don't run off when people are depending on me"  literally made no sense to me.... like I understand theyre depending on you but SO WOULD I JACK.. need some help SAVING THE FARKIN GALAXY HERE MY LOVE... but nope. Also, I've said time and again there's no way she wouldn't come see him for a last encounter before they all go to their possible deaths no matter how much of a hard ass she is... we saw her soft side in ME2... she made us wait then for a reason but I see no reason to postpone it after paragoning her, makes no sense. 

I swear I will **** and moan about this till I die... I don't know why I'm so upset about it, I just really liked her character and wanted some justice done for it. 


You're upset because they made a great character in the previous game, and didn't follow through entirely on what made her great, making her character just seem neglected.  It's understandable, and I completely agree with you.

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Oh, and here's the "Jack Troublemaker" face.  She's planning something, and you better be scared.  Can't wait to use this as my avatar.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 09 mars 2012 - 11:26 .


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Premier Bromanov wrote...


I remember a while ago, reading on Courtenay Taylor's Twitter, that she had recorded some lines that made her cry.  Ever since then, I wondered what it was that she was recording that would make her cry.  I guess those must have been the lines.



I dont normally deal with Twitter.  Having a Facebook account for me is bad enough. I wonder what she can/can't talk about regarding the game now that its out.  I'd love to hear her thoughts on how the character developed into ME3 and what may or may not have made it into the final game from what she recorded. 

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I'd love to send her another e-mail. We should maybe a wait a little longer, though, since the game was just released? Contracts and permissions and all that? I'd love to hear if she was surprised by the small amount of Jack dialogue.

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@ Premier Bromanov
that tweet about the dialogue that made her cry gave me hope through out the game after the mission at the academy

So whats the deal if we show up late to the academy, do we see anything? or do we show up and nobody's there at all?

Modifié par thesnake777, 09 mars 2012 - 11:41 .


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If you show up late Jack is a cerberus phantom you have to kill.


Premier Bromanov wrote...

You're upset because they made a great character in the previous game, and didn't follow through entirely on what made her great, making her character just seem neglected.  It's understandable, and I completely agree with you.

 

Thank you. :) 

Modifié par Militarized, 09 mars 2012 - 11:46 .


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Well worst I can see from an email is her saying she cant discuss anything at this time.

Of course now I need to see if I still have Keythe Farley or Robin Sachs emails. I talked to them before back when ME2 first came out. Be curious to get Keythe's take on Thane's lack of real content.

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Militarized wrote...

If you show up late Jack is a cerberus phantom you have to kill.


Premier Bromanov wrote...

You're upset because they made a great character in the previous game, and didn't follow through entirely on what made her great, making her character just seem neglected.  It's understandable, and I completely agree with you.

 

Thank you. :) 


Thanks..hmm maybe if I can bring myself to import another character ill hold off on going to the academy to check it out...

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thesnake777 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

If you show up late Jack is a cerberus phantom you have to kill.


Premier Bromanov wrote...

You're upset because they made a great character in the previous game, and didn't follow through entirely on what made her great, making her character just seem neglected.  It's understandable, and I completely agree with you.

 

Thank you. :) 


Thanks..hmm maybe if I can bring myself to import another character ill hold off on going to the academy to check it out...


I checked on Youtube but there's no footage of  that yet... Wow. It must be heart-wrenching -- I'll be bawling my eyes out when I see it, I just know it.

:crying:

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I'm still trying to find a clip of the 8-second holo bit. My Xbox isnt set up to capture video and I havent purchased the game for the PC yet (not sure if I want to now).  I'm not sure I can handle hearing the torture audio at this point. 

Modifié par GothamLord, 10 mars 2012 - 01:25 .


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I'm still trying to find a clip of the 8-second holo bit. My Xbox isnt set up to capture video and I havent purchased the game for the PC yet (not sure if I want to now)


It's irking, I can repeat it from memory having only seen it once. 

Shep - "Hey Jack.. how you holdin up?"

Jack - "Hey we're holdin the line back here! Don't get killed! When this is all over I wanna get laid!" 

Shep - "Love you too....(monotonish btw) 

Video feed cuts. 

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

Nightfable wrote...

I haven't seen the endings, I don't really want to actually. I've heard of them. I thought that instead of writing a fanfic, I could make a short comic with Jack rescuing Shepard who's barely alive in the rubble. I don't know where she ends up in the end, but I'd like to think that being with Shepard is more important to her then she lets on in the game... and that she would do whatever it takes to make sure he survives.

I drew this today for fun, let me know if you guys would like to see more. You can send me some ideas... I like the tattooed bands someone mentioned. ^^

http://i8.photobucke...-me3-rescue.png

[snipped picture]


Omg, please make more!  :wub:  I love this idea.  Just more evidence of the Jackolytes being an extremely creative and talented bunch.


Thank you so much!!! :wub:

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Nightfable, you have seen Epantiras & Mondo's "Door", right? The comic set about Jack?

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Premier Bromanov wrote...
 
Nightfable, you have seen Epantiras & Mondo's "Door", right? The comic set about Jack?


Yeah, that was wonderfully well done, I love her her comics! <3

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Militarized wrote...

GothamLord wrote...

I'm still trying to find a clip of the 8-second holo bit. My Xbox isnt set up to capture video and I havent purchased the game for the PC yet (not sure if I want to now)


It's irking, I can repeat it from memory having only seen it once. 

Shep - "Hey Jack.. how you holdin up?"

Jack - "Hey we're holdin the line back here! Don't get killed! When this is all over I wanna get laid!" 

Shep - "Love you too....(monotonish btw) 

Video feed cuts. 



Yeah it generally sucks no argument on the fact that its irksome.  I more wanted the video more so I can grab any and all image captures of Jack / all audio clips.  Normally I'd just wait till I get the PC version for it, but at this point I dont have the motivation to give them more money.

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Honestly I like Jack much better now. I didn't like her much in Mass Effect 2. The new style is great.

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Honestly I like Jack much better now. I didn't like her much in Mass Effect 2. The new style is great.


What didn't you like?  What do you like now?

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this stuff is going to be bothering me for months I'm sure.


My male shep was full on renegade on most war front choices and slightly paragon on more serious choices like destroying the collector base. The only time i didn't have him put a female companion in the friend zone or even soften up was when he was with jack. now all these choices really don't effect any thing.  any way I end I die and the one chance I get a chance to survive I wind up sacrificing Joker's love EDI.
it just feels like sucha horrible set up for all the choices and character devlopment I made to have the only person my shepard cared about become so distant and unreachable.


I decided to go with the synthesis option in hope that it would leave a better life for every one but it all just feels like suicde to me. the only one I find coming out truely happy from this are joker and edi if you save them =\\. why can't I get that slice of happiness without having to take so much away in return.

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Jack has a doodad on each ear in ME3. Is this symmetry symbolic of the balance Jack is seeking for her life, or is that reading way too much in to it?

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prob just style thing for all we know they are space age earings or somethin. she seems a little impulsive when it comes to her style and her body. I think that shows when one of the students ask jack how many tatoos she has, but she can't recall the number. I also think thats the great thing about Jack she loves to express herself




on a side note has anyone complete a playthrough with Jack via the casual sex option? does she still give you the cold shoulder when you guys meet up or is she willing to open up to you afterwards?

Modifié par ExiledTyrant, 10 mars 2012 - 02:59 .