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[WRXtacy]

Yup she says she is south of Shephard in London. Gotta imagine she is still there after the ending.

[Militarized]

Well.... I don't mean to be a total **** but if the endings are to be taken literally, most likely the Citadel rains down onto earth due it's explosion in 2/3 endings and kills a large swathe of people populating that area of the planet. So Britian/Europe... how big is the Citadel?

Ugh I don't even wanna think of Jack being crushed from that crap. >.<

[WRXtacy]

What has me questioning the ending

*SPOILERS*
Shephard in one ending he is alive, he is laying in almost like a rocky cement structured building. The citadel does not look like this architecture wise. So I'm thinking maybe he is waking up in the rubble of a building in London.

So I don't think Jack or anyone was crushed by the citadel. 

Modifié par WRXtacy, 21 mars 2012 - 10:44 .

[Aver88]

Militarized wrote...

Well.... I don't mean to be a total **** but if the endings are to be taken literally, most likely the Citadel rains down onto earth due it's explosion in 2/3 endings and kills a large swathe of people populating that area of the planet. So Britian/Europe... how big is the Citadel?

Ugh I don't even wanna think of Jack being crushed from that crap. >.<

Citadel was in Vacuum. It can't just drop down. It may orbit around earth for a while and then crush on earth but they should have enough time to remove it from the orbit. 

[Aver88]

spiros9110 wrote...
Quality over quantity.

I think so too, but it's other story if we are talking about devs that want to decide what DLC they should add next.

[Premier Bromanov]

In my mind, Shepard is beamed back down to Earth by the Godler, as a "Well done, mortal" gesture. After the Reapers kick the bucket, Jack sees the Citadel self-destruct, or is told about it happening. In denial and desperation, Jack hightails it to the site of Shepard's last known whereabouts, and finds him there.

As for the Citadel falling to Earth, Earth is suddenly every species' new home. The galactic fleet is right there, and everyone has an interest in keeping Earth capable of sustaining life.

If you think the Citadel falling to Earth was a problem, check out the space battle cinematic. Everyone was going all out with their big guns, and not every shot was hitting the Reapers. A single missed shot would hit Earth, and a single missed shot from a naval mass accelerator weapon would hit with the force of a thermonuclear weapon.

[jackncoke28]

I'm in the indoctrination theory camp, so after Shepard breaks indoctrination attempt he wakes up in London were Harbinger was pew pew-ing everyone. Jack finds him, gives him some medigel, and they proceed to kick reaper a**

[spirosz]

For anyone who's read the leak script, was there more dialogue for Jack, compared to what we got in game?

[Visii]

spiros9110 wrote...

For anyone who's read the leak script, was there more dialogue for Jack, compared to what we got in game?

Not at all. Only thing I did see there that didn't make it in game (though it was in the cut audio) was her speech to her kids before the battle.

I was deluding myself with the hope that there had been a lot more, and it just hadn't been the outdated, old version, of the script.

[Aver88]

Well, some of character was treated that way because of "limited budget". Probably it's why we have small amount of Jack in ME3 .

It's sad that one of the best selling aRPG out there have a such limited budget. It took only 2 years to produce ME3, graphics are kinda outdated and there aren't many locations. So where is all this money? 
Don't get me wrong. Game is still awesome and I love it. but I'm very sad/angry when I read that they didn't have enough budget for some characters.

I'm saying that based on what one dev said about Samara:

I regret I didn't put in a little more branching for the "tried to romance" fans, but we had a pretty strict line budget near the end.

Modifié par Aver88, 21 mars 2012 - 03:33 .

[GothamLord]

Well given the large cast of voice actors gathered over two games combined with even more new ones in the third installment I've sure the budget on voice overs added up quickly. People like Martin Sheen, Lance Henriksen, Keith David, Carrie-Anne Moss, are all going to pull a sizable paycheck even for minimal voice work because they have major Hollywood resumes. Sure Courtenay Taylor doesnt have the weight for more but when you have dozens of people it adds up. If anything the awesome cast of character actors probably became the budgets own worst enemy.

[Aver88]

GothamLord wrote...

Well given the large cast of voice actors gathered over two games combined with even more new ones in the third installment I've sure the budget on voice overs added up quickly. People like Martin Sheen, Lance Henriksen, Keith David, Carrie-Anne Moss, are all going to pull a sizable paycheck even for minimal voice work because they have major Hollywood resumes. Sure Courtenay Taylor doesnt have the weight for more but when you have dozens of people it adds up. If anything the awesome cast of character actors probably became the budgets own worst enemy.

Yeah, I see your point. But I don't think that their budget was higher than 50kk and they will get a few hundreds of millions of revenue.

Modifié par Aver88, 21 mars 2012 - 03:50 .

[GothamLord]

Its EA. Nothing else really needs to be said beyond that. Minimal cost for maximum profit.

[Aver88]

It seems that another reason why there are so few scenes about Jack:


30% of players lost her during last mission in ME2.

Modifié par Aver88, 21 mars 2012 - 04:44 .

[spirosz]

Aver88 wrote...

It seems that another reason why there is so few scenes about Jack:
*snip*

30% of players lost her during last mission in ME2.

Wow. Just because she's disliked and we're not "vocal" enough... doesn't really give me much hope for a true romance DLC, especially one suiting Shepard and Jack's relationship. If I see Bioware making one, I can only see it being generic and basically being the same regardless of who the Shepard is romancing - same date area, same dialogue basically (minor differences at best), same scenes.. basically.

I'd rather just stick to reading Mondo's blogs, lol, they're more detailed and stay true to Jack's character. Funny how that works.

[Aver88]

spiros9110 wrote...
Wow. Just because she's disliked and we're not "vocal" enough... doesn't really give me much hope for a true romance DLC, especially one suiting Shepard and Jack's relationship.

Well, I don't know how others, but I send them few twitts per day asking them for DLC about her and they always answer.

Also now I think that her survivability is not that bad. She dies automatically when ship is not upgraded and she has only 4% lower survivability than Tali. And Tali has great romance scenes, few missions about her and a lot of other scenes in the game.

Modifié par Aver88, 21 mars 2012 - 04:53 .

[spirosz]

Aver88 wrote...

spiros9110 wrote...
Wow. Just because she's disliked and we're not "vocal" enough... doesn't really give me much hope for a true romance DLC, especially one suiting Shepard and Jack's relationship.

Well, I don't know how others, but I send them few twitts per day asking them for DLC about her, and they always answer.

Also now I think that her survivability is not that bad. She die automatically when ship is not upgraded and she has only 4% lower survivability than Tali. And Tali has great romance scenes, few missions about her and a lot of other scenes in the game.

Yeah I know, I was pretty vocal before the game came out, but our ME3 thread tended to stay quiet for a few weeks, which wasn't bad, there was just nothing to talk about, lol.  Ah, we'll just wait and see what they come up with. 

[Premier Bromanov]

It'd be a shame if that's true. Out of all of the ME2 squadmates, doesn't Jack have the greatest number of ways to die on the suicide mission?

[CroGamer002]

Doing playthrough where I romanced Jack.

So far, excellent.

[spirosz]

Premier Bromanov wrote...

It'd be a shame if that's true. Out of all of the ME2 squadmates, doesn't Jack have the greatest number of ways to die on the suicide mission?

I believe so, but she goes out in such a touching way if you pick her as a leader.  I always loved her cut dialogue from that scene, the one about she wasn't supposed to care or find happiness, I can't remember the exact line. 

[axl99]

"How'd you talk me into this? I wasn't supposed to care."

[jackncoke28]

I've seen a lot of people come around on Jack, people that didn't really "get" her on ME2, now enjoy her in ME3. I take the surviving the end game thing with a grain of salt, only because she was one of the characters that could die simply because you didn't upgrade the Normandy. The fight with Miranda effected it to, since Miranda was pretty popular many people without enough rep points ended up siding with her, causing you to loose Jack's loyalty, which I believe also effected suicide mission survival.

Modifié par jackncoke28, 21 mars 2012 - 04:59 .

[Aver88]

Mesina2 wrote...

Doing playthrough where I romanced Jack.

So far, excellent.

When I saw her in Grissom I thought so too. But it's pretty much everything what you will find in the game. There are only 2 one-liners more in a whole game.