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I just noticed she says "That's what pisses me off, we're doing good work. If we were useless I could drop this **** and come with you, but we're not and they need me..." that leads into if you want to break up with her and not, but I didn't realize she said those words, makes me sad that I can't see her more, but happy that she is finally happy, that's more important IMO, especially after all she's been through.

Though, the no strings still sort of bugs me because it's sort of contradicting the "that's what pisses me off", lol.

Modifié par spiros9110, 22 mars 2012 - 09:42 .


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spiros9110 wrote...

I just noticed she says "That's what pisses me off, we're doing good work. If we were useless I could drop this **** and come with you, but we're not and they need me..." that leads into if you want to break up with her and not, but I didn't realize she said those words, makes me sad that I can't see her more, but happy that she is finally happy, that's more important IMO, especially after all she's been through.

Though, the no strings still sort of bugs me because it's sort of contradicting the "that's what pisses me off", lol.


Hurts a little more that Tali reasons that she can stay, when she'd probably be better off making sure the geth and quarians don't kill each other, even if you negotiate peace.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 22 mars 2012 - 09:46 .


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I'd like to ask Ms. Taylor some questions on her twitter, but I'm not sure if it's been long enough since the release of ME3, and if it'd be appropriate, considering the ME3 ending fiasco.

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

Nightfable, that picture hurts me, but it's very well-done. It's just so sad. The background makes it feel like the only thing that exists in that moment is the two of them, and Shepard's sorrow at losing Jack.

Are you still working on your other picture, Nightfable?


No worries, I'm still working on the other one! I just needed to take a little break focusing on something else. There's only so much of staring at a picture I can take, lol!

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Okay, I just found something out.

Turns out, Jack's romance really IS a "no-strings" thing. Ash was my LI in 1. Jack in 2. I got back with Ash, THEN went to talk to Jack at Purgatory. Same scene: Told her I still wanted her, I make the best mistakes. Then I got the Ash love scene before the Cerberus HQ mission. Then on Earth... Jack still wants to get laid.

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

Okay, I just found something out.

Turns out, Jack's romance really IS a "no-strings" thing. Ash was my LI in 1. Jack in 2. I got back with Ash, THEN went to talk to Jack at Purgatory. Same scene: Told her I still wanted her, I make the best mistakes. Then I got the Ash love scene before the Cerberus HQ mission. Then on Earth... Jack still wants to get laid.


:crying: My Shepard was single and I really don't view their relationship developing that way, bah - I don't know what to think of her romance, like I love her in ME3, but I don't know if I like the way things turned out for them - different vision for Bioware I guess, tis' all good.  

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

Okay, I just found something out.

Turns out, Jack's romance really IS a "no-strings" thing. Ash was my LI in 1. Jack in 2. I got back with Ash, THEN went to talk to Jack at Purgatory. Same scene: Told her I still wanted her, I make the best mistakes. Then I got the Ash love scene before the Cerberus HQ mission. Then on Earth... Jack still wants to get laid.


Sounds like the game not having enough content to account for context.

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

Okay, I just found something out.

Turns out, Jack's romance really IS a "no-strings" thing. Ash was my LI in 1. Jack in 2. I got back with Ash, THEN went to talk to Jack at Purgatory. Same scene: Told her I still wanted her, I make the best mistakes. Then I got the Ash love scene before the Cerberus HQ mission. Then on Earth... Jack still wants to get laid.

If I had to guess, I'd say that's most likely due to a development oversight (or a bug, I suppose). I know for a fact that you can't start a new romance with anyone (well, at least not any of the women; I don't know about Cortez) after you've locked things in with Jack at Purgatory. The dialogue options simply don't come up. Heck, you can't even flirt with Samantha Traynor (which you can do if you don't have Jack locked in as your love interest yet), despite the fact that flirting with her wouldn't lead anything anyway because she's gay.

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Padt wrote...

Rip The Reaper wrote...

Okay, I just found something out.

Turns out, Jack's romance really IS a "no-strings" thing. Ash was my LI in 1. Jack in 2. I got back with Ash, THEN went to talk to Jack at Purgatory. Same scene: Told her I still wanted her, I make the best mistakes. Then I got the Ash love scene before the Cerberus HQ mission. Then on Earth... Jack still wants to get laid.

If I had to guess, I'd say that's most likely due to a development oversight (or a bug, I suppose). I know for a fact that you can't start a new romance with anyone (well, at least not any of the women; I don't know about Cortez) after you've locked things in with Jack at Purgatory. The dialogue options simply don't come up. Heck, you can't even flirt with Samantha Traynor (which you can do if you don't have Jack locked in as your love interest yet), despite the fact that flirting with her wouldn't lead anything anyway because she's gay.


oversight. Basicly it all comes down to a the lack of jack. period. Choosing to break-up with her when you first meet her had NO effect. You can pursue another relationship before talking to her a purgatory...NO effect.

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Rip The Reaper wrote...

oversight. Basicly it all comes down to a the lack of jack. period. Choosing to break-up with her when you first meet her had NO effect. You can pursue another relationship before talking to her a purgatory...NO effect.


It's like Bioware was hoping Shepard would throw his relationship with Jack away, so they would't have to make extra scenes and spend the extra money on ME2 characters...  When I run around the Normandy in ME3, I feel like the characters are being forced on me and I keep having to turn down their advances or make sure I don't say something that'll make them think I'm flirting with them. I wanted more of my Love Interest, but that's not what I'm getting.

Modifié par Nightfable, 22 mars 2012 - 11:50 .


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MrFrank wrote...

I see some of you are trying to ask @masseffect about Jack DLC and all that jazz. I'd love to see some too, but getting an answer from that twitter feed is likely not going to happen. Someone should tweet @courtenaytaylor and see what her opinion would be on DLC for that character.


Replies from offical ME3 twitter to me (note: tweets that starts with "@masseffect" are from me and those that starts with "@aver88" are from Bioware):
1)
@masseffect Give us more Jack. Pretty please.
@aver88 More Jack, eh? What sorts of scenarios would you like to see?
@masseffect I would like to see her as a companion. Also more developed romance would be great too.

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@masseffect any chances for a DLC about Jack?
@aver88 Nothing's impossible!

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@masseffect Please make a DLC about Jack. She is awesome. I want to recruit her to my squad. :)
@aver88 Noted, thanks for the suggestion!

4)@masseffect I'm disappointed that Jack in ME3 isn't a squadmate. Please make a DLC that will change it. :)
@aver88 We're glad you like her- she is a cool chick. We'll pass on your feedback!

And I already talked with Ms Taylor:

@courtenaytaylor Your voice acting in ME3 was awesome. I just hope that there will some DLC about Jack so I will be able to hear more of it.
@Aver88 well thank you! Me too! I will be happy to do so should it come around! #IloveJack

So yeah, there is no any problem with getting an answer from them :).

Modifié par Aver88, 22 mars 2012 - 11:45 .


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I remember reading that all the mass effect twitter responses are from a bot.

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Makaveli The Don wrote...

I remember reading that all the mass effect twitter responses are from a bot.


Nope, very often they talk about random stuff, or comment people's pictures. Of course some responses are pre-made but you can't always be original when you answer few hundreds of twitts per day.

Modifié par Aver88, 23 mars 2012 - 12:00 .


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Rip The Reaper wrote...

Padt wrote...

Rip The Reaper wrote...

Okay, I just found something out.

Turns out, Jack's romance really IS a "no-strings" thing. Ash was my LI in 1. Jack in 2. I got back with Ash, THEN went to talk to Jack at Purgatory. Same scene: Told her I still wanted her, I make the best mistakes. Then I got the Ash love scene before the Cerberus HQ mission. Then on Earth... Jack still wants to get laid.

If I had to guess, I'd say that's most likely due to a development oversight (or a bug, I suppose). I know for a fact that you can't start a new romance with anyone (well, at least not any of the women; I don't know about Cortez) after you've locked things in with Jack at Purgatory. The dialogue options simply don't come up. Heck, you can't even flirt with Samantha Traynor (which you can do if you don't have Jack locked in as your love interest yet), despite the fact that flirting with her wouldn't lead anything anyway because she's gay.


oversight. Basicly it all comes down to a the lack of jack. period. Choosing to break-up with her when you first meet her had NO effect. You can pursue another relationship before talking to her a purgatory...NO effect.

That's hardly unique to Jack. Near as I can tell almost every love interest from the previous games has several points where you can express interest or disinterest in them (on my first playthrough, for example, I had to tell Ashley twice that things between us were over so I could be free to stick with Jack for the duration of the game). Most likely, the reason why they give you multiple opportunities to do this is because they want you to be absolutely certain when you rekindle or break things off with an old love interest, since ME3's revamped romance mechanics don't allow for any, uh, "backsies" (that is to say, unlike in ME2, after a certain point in the game's overarching narrative you can neither break up with a love interest or pursue a new one).

So in Jack's case, for example, they give you the opportunity to tell her that you're no longer interested in her when you meet her at Grissom Academy, but then, at Purgatory, they give you the opportunity to say that you are still interested in case you've changed your mind. And the opposite is also true: you can say that you're interested at Grissom and that you're no longer interested at Purgatory (or you can say that you're interested at both places, or that you're not interested at both places).

I think it's better this way. Frankly - and I honestly don't intend this to come across as rude to anyone here in any way, so if it does I truly apologize in advance - I get the sense that if they did allow us to break up with her permanently the first time we meet her, it would simply feed into the notion I've seen expressed a few times here that BioWare supposedly "wants" us to break up with Jack.

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Makaveli The Don wrote...

I remember reading that all the mass effect twitter responses are from a bot.

I thought it was run by Jessica Merizan (and there is a thankless task if I've ever seen one, running the Mass Effect Twitter account. I mean...damn).

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The @masseffect twitter is responding pretty heavily right now, it might be a good time for you to voice your concerns about the lack of Jack!

They already responded to @meneedsmorejack with "Mass Effect needs more Jack. Noted!"
Now that's a pretty generic response, but it's something.

Looks like I was wrong originally about people being able to get responses from them. Just last time I tried they hadn't responded to anyone for a while, so I gave up.

Modifié par MrFrank, 23 mars 2012 - 12:15 .


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I got a response from their twitter unfortunatley I look like a lunatic on my twitter picture so I feel they may not have taken me too seriously. Hopefully we get something. I'm glad miss Taylor is on board with it though! And thanks aver88 keep posting lets make it happen.

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Either there is a bot responding to those twits, or whoever is answering them is using fairly generic and common answers. I've seen almost identical answers from it before.

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

Either there is a bot responding to those twits, or whoever is answering them is using fairly generic and common answers. I've seen almost identical answers from it before.


Yeah, that's half of what's worrying me about asking the @masseffect twitter. A lot of the replies are just recycled so the point might not be getting across too well. That being said, it's hard to reply to thousands of people and think of a creative response for each one.

I doubt it's a bot though, the responses seem too accurate for that.

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MrFrank wrote...
Yeah, that's half of what's worrying me about asking the @masseffect twitter. A lot of the replies are just recycled so the point might not be getting across too well. That being said, it's hard to reply to thousands of people and think of a creative response for each one.

I doubt it's a bot though, the responses seem too accurate for that.


Exactly. Look how many twitts they get. It's impossible to be always creative especially when many requests and questions are asked over and over (make a new ending, I want DLC about character XXX etc.).

But, I bet that they really note down suggestions and send them to devs (and least those which are asked over and over ;) ). BW is known for listening to fans.

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The more times you ask the greater chance they jot a note down about more jack IF enough people ask. You are right they won't respond to everything or note everything but hey if you keep asking they may make a note to pass on.

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I think it would be pretty easy to come up with some Jack-centric DLC.

It's pre-TIM base, like any non-ending DLC would be, so... get an email from Jack on the Normandy, saying she's got some intel about Cerberus (pre-TIM base, Cerberus is alive and kicking) and needs/wants your help. Meet on Citadel.

LotSB/Arrival-length DLC mission kicking Cerberus ass with plenty of opportunities for character and relationship development (possibly involving her family, my personal request) and snappy Jack one-liners. Wrap it up with a big explosion and a feisty Jack-style love scene for Jackmancers (quick shot of N7 tat on butt? Yes please).

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KingNothing125 wrote...

I think it would be pretty easy to come up with some Jack-centric DLC.

It's pre-TIM base, like any non-ending DLC would be, so... get an email from Jack on the Normandy, saying she's got some intel about Cerberus (pre-TIM base, Cerberus is alive and kicking) and needs/wants your help. Meet on Citadel.

LotSB/Arrival-length DLC mission kicking Cerberus ass with plenty of opportunities for character and relationship development (possibly involving her family, my personal request) and snappy Jack one-liners. Wrap it up with a big explosion and a feisty Jack-style love scene for Jackmancers (quick shot of N7 tat on butt? Yes please).


You just wrote the whole thing! Brilliant!! There is a famous meme that I would like to use here if it doesn't work someone post it for me
Didnt work here's the link

http://i3.kym-cdn.co...money_super.jpg

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WRXtacy wrote...
http://i3.kym-cdn.co...money_super.jpg


In that case somebody should make a Jack's version of this meme. Jack with her biotic fist and "Take my money or I will destroy you!"

BTW. I still hope they will make Jack a full squad-mate for a whole campaign.