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#4851
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That's a great idea Spiros, it would have made it so much more fun. ^^

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I was gonna refrain from posting for a little while, but screw it.


You could probably tell from my fic how I think Jack sleeps. Normal. At least, when she knows Shepard is around. Or whenever she knows she's safe.

I got the feeling that it was a habit developed from being who she was before Shepard found her at Purgatory (Prison), and the experiences she went through. For the sake of simplicity, I'm going to assume we're talking romanced Jack, and say that I'm not implying that years of being on her guard is just gonna get thrown out of the window just because one person feels for her.

Old habits die hard. She may be comfortable sleeping with him, but her body isn't. She has to get used to it before she starts being a heavy sleeper. Otherwise, she would usually wake up at the faintest, sudden sounds. Like a pen dropping.

And while I'm talking, I found myself thinking about this while I was passed out (Don't judge me).


How do you guys think Jack handles sex? With Shepard, I mean. I mean, I'm sure we'd all love some tenderness, from time to time, but still, it's Jack. I don't think it's going to be as clear cut as getting used to it.

The way I see it, there are two things supporting my idea, the first and foremost being the Renegade sex option in ME2. 'Round this time, Jack's taking charge, and putting Shepard through as much pain as pleasure. Second one is Grissom Academy.

The girl (Ahem, excuse my wording) blows your sh*t out before kissing you.

The only other three things that COULD disprove the idea doesn't really do it when you realize it wasn't her initiative:


Paragon "Sex Scene": Shepard led her to his bed. Implied that there was no actual sex involved, just caressing.

Paragon Interrupt: Shepard takes point again, and this goes no further than kissing.

L.I. Lock-In at Purgatory: Shepard -again- takes point, taking Jack into his hands and kissing her after telling her she was not getting rid of him that easily.


Hell, I even explored this bit in the Son Of Mindoir fic, once. I believe the chapter is "Hate Me."

#4853
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Regarding Jack's sleeping habits - I didn't mean to make it seem as if they've changed completely just because Shepard's around.  She probably wakes up with a start.  Waking her up would leave her fully tensed and ready for a fight, and she might give you a biotic punch in the face.  She probably leaps out of bed at the sound of the Space Hamster nibbling on some food.  No, I think she'll be like this for a long time.  But, she will unwind eventually, in my opinion.

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I think Jack is more of a "Hardcore" lover. I could see Shepard trying to bring the tenderness to the bedroom from time to time, but not Jack. How I see it, is Jack past with rape and other horrable acts that were comitted upon her have conditioned her to see sex more of a physical activity. Rather than something emotional. (if that makes sense)

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I agree... the Paragon scene in ME2 shows us there will be tender moments, but I think the Renegade hookup is much more her normal style... just look at how they meet up again in ME3 for example. That is not to say she doesn't care (like the Renegade hookup), rather that she's very aggressive, very passionate in the sack.

And I'm OK with that :P

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Just noticed an inconsistency on the Grissom Academy mission. When you talk with Jack, she mentions that when the students get tired she reminds them of how she was holding the bubble on the collector base, but when you walk up to the students afterwards, 2 of them are talking and say: "So Jack has worked with commander Shepard? why did she never mention that?"

So either an inconsistency, or Jack told them that she took out the collector base single-handedly =)

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Yeah that was mentioned a few pages ago. Either she told them she took out the Collectors single-handedly (unlikely, lol) or maybe Rodriguez is just something of an airhead :P

The other kids are like "I can't believe it!" which sounds more like they heard the story, but found it hard to believe like "no way!"

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Again, speaking in LI terms...

Remember how she didn't really talk about Murtock? He was sort of used as a last resort to keep Shepard away, no?

Not saying that applies here, but I don't think she really talks about any of the people she feels for.

Just because she left Shepard out of the story doesn't automatically mean she told them she did the deed herself -- even though I know why she WOULD say it. She probably could've mentioned Miri, Jacob, Thane, Legion, Kasumi, Mordin, Tali, Garrus, Joker, Edi, Zaeed, or Grunt.

Most likely Grunt.

They don't have dialogue regarding other squad members as far as I can tell; just Shepard. So you never really know.

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I think they know (or should know) she helped Shep because she says, "the Alliance knew I helped you with the Collectors, so they offered me this." Granted, she's talking about Sanders, not the kids, but I dunno, I think they would put 2+2 together.

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KingNothing125 wrote...

I agree... the Paragon scene in ME2 shows us there will be tender moments, but I think the Renegade hookup is much more her normal style. 


Agreed. I think there will (depending on the situation) be tender moments. But most of the time it's gonna be aggressive. 

Jacks song to other shep LIs would be "Halestorm - Love Bites (so do I)" :D

Modifié par WRXtacy, 29 mars 2012 - 08:09 .


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KingNothing125 wrote...

I think they know (or should know) she helped Shep because she says, "the Alliance knew I helped you with the Collectors, so they offered me this." Granted, she's talking about Sanders, not the kids, but I dunno, I think they would put 2+2 together.

Well, I don't think it's very clear how well-known Shepard's destruction of the Collectors is to the galaxy at large. The Alliance WOULD know about it, of course, since Shepard turned himself into them and presumably explained his reasons for joining Cerberus (and Sanders, especially, would be likely to know and believe it, considering her involvement with Anderson). But perhaps it's less likely that a group of teenagers would be aware of all the details, if any.

I find it more curious that, you know, after seeing their teacher get into a raging makeout session with Commander Shepard, the students would refer to their relationship as just "working together".

Modifié par Padt, 29 mars 2012 - 08:36 .


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Just wanted to remind you that you can send me via PM few lines what do you think about Jack DLC and it will be sent to BW HQ.

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You know what I want to see? The conclusion of Miranda and Jack's feud. I'm replaying ME2 and I Just ran into the heavy argument. It would just be so awesome if the two could meet up again. Honestly both of'em are my favorite ME female characters, and seeing them going at each others throats was by far my favorite ME2 moment.  

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Aver88 wrote...

Just wanted to remind you that you can send me via PM few lines what do you think about Jack DLC and it will be sent to BW HQ.


What do you mean by lines? could you provide me with an example?

#4865
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Here you have an example: "Every Boy Scout needs his Jack. That's why I'm asking for more of Ms. Nought. Jack as a squadmate!" by Premier Bromanov.

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Aver88 wrote...

Here you have an example: "Every Boy Scout needs his Jack. That's why I'm asking for more of Ms. Nought. Jack as a squadmate!" by Premier Bromanov.


Okay I see. Thanks, if I think of anything clever I'll send it your way Image IPB

#4867
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Aver, how many submissions do you have so far? Feels like the Jack community around here is kind of small :(

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 29 mars 2012 - 09:30 .


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Aver88 wrote...

Just wanted to remind you that you can send me via PM few lines what do you think about Jack DLC and it will be sent to BW HQ.


Done, I hope that was okay.

#4869
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Premier Bromanov wrote...

Aver, how many submissions do you have so far? Feels like the Jack community around here is kind of small


5 but it's not a problem. I have a plan to get more later. I will post list of interesting phrases made by myself and people will be able to pick one. I think that most of people just don't have a good idea for it.

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kumquats wrote...
Done, I hope that was okay.


It was perfect! :)

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

Aver, how many submissions do you have so far? Feels like the Jack community around here is kind of small :(


I wasn't really active, Liara thread is insane. I'm doing my insanity playthrough and of course a lot of MP.
Forgive me, Jack. :crying:

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#4872
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To any artist here: support DLC about Jack by drawing some fan art about Jack. It will be printed as lithography and sent to BW HQ with other fan arts and letter.

#4873
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Starting another playthrough of ME3 reminds me of one of the lines from ME2:

"So it'll suck, but just think about how fun the ride to the end will be."

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Dr. Doctor wrote...

Starting another playthrough of ME3 reminds me of one of the lines from ME2:

"So it'll suck, but just think about how fun the ride to the end will be."

It's an awesome line! Want me to quote you in our latter to BW? :)

#4875
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I also have an idea for a short comics (3 frames long) about Jack to support idea of DLC. If there is an artist that would like to draw it just PM me.

Modifié par Aver88, 29 mars 2012 - 11:47 .