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Regarding Jack's sleep habits, her romantic inclination, and her sexual behavior with Shepard, these are Mondo's thoughts, re-posted with permission:

"Just to put in my ten cents on the Jack in the Bedroom debate (you can let the others know or not) my take is fairly outlined thus far in my blog scenes; Jack is a light sleeper, but she's becoming more comfortable with her surroundings - that in itself worries her. She'll definately be a person that wakes at the slightest noise, or even a sense of something being wrong... she'll have a sixth sense almost for wrong-ness - if she's on a ship, she'll feel if the ship's thrust is off, she'll hear the slightest creak of a the bulkheads and know if a sound is normal and she can go back to sleep, or she has something to worry about. I don't see her snoring unless she passes out drunk - you need to be heavily asleep to snore loudly, and she doesn't get there easily.

She won't be an easy cuddler... she'll like to be cuddled, sure, but she'll want her own space just as much. Waking up with arms around her won't be something that'll always sit well with her. She'd be unsure of her feelings about it; she'll love the sense of security and comfort, but the habits of a lifetime, and the experiences of a lifetime, will not go away easily. Jack will just as often not be there when Shepard wakes up as she will be. He'll have to accept that in her for now, because it might take a long time to change... he'll be putting a blanket over her while she sleeps on the couch and putting up with her elbows in his ribs to make him let go already. And there's the drugs she has to take to stop the furniture floating around while she sleeps. Maybe that would get better over time, but she's going to be using inhibitors a lot to stop side effects - biotic-power-wise she's a nuke in a tin can; all that power has little to hold it in sometimes, and perhaps her prophecy of killing Shep accidentally would be a concern for a long time too.

Romantically, I think Jack will be a bit of a joker; she's probably not used to being romanced at all. She might think Shepard's attempts to woo her are a bit silly, and openly call him on them being just that. I'm not saying she wouldn't like being treated right, but she hasn't lived a life where anyone is likely to have treated her as the centre of their universe often - or at least not without an ulterior motive. If Shep brought her flowers, she'd probably crack out laughing - I mean, what use are they? Chocolates and booze though she'd hammer down, say thanks, and then move on. A dinner date would probably lack masses of conversation while Jack pigs out, completely fails to use the right cutlery, has the champagne in the wine glass. Any conversation there was would probably lack decorum, and any sideways glances from other diners would result in verbal abuse, bottles of wine suddenly and inexplicably exploding, thrown food - the works. In some ways, Jack isn't that mature socially, and in public, chances are it'd show. She can be herself with Shepard and know he accepts all her quirks, she'd expect the same from the rest of the world or it's going to get a black eye.

Sexually, I think Jack bigs herself up a little. Sure, she enjoys sex (sexual assault doesn't stop  many women leading normal sex lives with their partners, though it can often change it - a very good literary example of it is in a Henry Rollins verbal-take called Day of the Bed where he discusses a girlfriend who was an abuse survivor who was no wallflower sexually, though certain positions would make her stop with a soul-crushing "No, that's my uncle."), and I think the Renegade scene does give a little insight, but it's a bit of a red herring; Jack is on top - she's the controlling, active partner. She's boss. This is what she wants, and it's on her terms. All the pleasure is hers to be in charge of.  Dominance. When you get down to the Omega Four scene, Jack is on the bottom; she's letting Shepard in, she's not so much surrendering (not that she ever would), but she's trusting someone to come into her space and be good to her. It's submissive in a good way.

While I certainly imagine Jack would be sexually demanding sometimes, and be equally sexually adventurous, sometimes she would be the one to let Shepard in, to let him take charge and please her on his terms. She trusts him, after all, and this is a woman that does not trust easily.  She can let her guard down and know he isn't one of the people that hurt her before. To use the rather sleazy metaphor, she is both **** and virgin in that respect - open, eager and uninhibited on one hand, though on the other sometimes she is closed, vulnerable and restrained.  Shepard will get to see both Jacks in the bedroom, and she'll move between them at will. How Shepard will cope with a woman that isn't afraid of asking him for sex in the Normandy elevator will depend on his restraint and his sense of humour. Westerlund News covering stories of Alliance war hero Commander Shepard being caught having sex in a public place are probably not far away with Jack... and while Shep will most likely have his head in his hands, Jack will probably shrug and say at least her ass doesn't look enormous in those pictures."

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 30 mars 2012 - 02:37 .


#4877
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Nice thoughts. Why he/she don't post here?

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B)

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Aver88 wrote...

Nice thoughts. Why he/she don't post here?


Mondo has Mondo-reasons.  Not my place to mention them.

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New series of userbars:
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If someone want userbar with his own text/color/image just PM. I can make it for you.

Modifié par Aver88, 30 mars 2012 - 02:13 .


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@premier Bromanov

I couldn't agree more with mando's thoughts. s/he really sat down and thought about jack's personality. It was very well writen and a great read. I think mando nailed what s/he was trying to get across. Thank mando for me.

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Hey Aver88, something like this? I've been drawing it for you and then saw your post. ^^


Yeah, something in this style. I like those cup cakes :D

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Premier Bromanov wrote...
Mondo has Mondo-reasons.  Not my place to mention them.


It's pity then. It would be nice to have Mondo here :).

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mosesarose wrote...

@premier Bromanov

I couldn't agree more with mando's thoughts. s/he really sat down and thought about jack's personality. It was very well writen and a great read. I think mando nailed what s/he was trying to get across. Thank mando for me.


Mondo*

Yeah, she's always been spot on with expressing Jack. 

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Great insight, Mondo!

#4886
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Daily those of spam: :innocent:

The most important thing:

Go and write few words in official feedback topic. It may be short or long, whatever. Just ask for Jack.
http://social.biowar...ex/10098213/201

Ask them for it via Twitter:
Official ME twitter
Mac Walters Lead Writter of ME
Producer of ME - Gamle Mike 

Show your support in this topics:
DLC about Jack 

Don't worry. Soon I will stop asking you to spam them. ;)

#4887
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We stop spamming bioware once jack gets more love. That's when you can stop spamming your post ;)

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I just feel that other people are running out of fuel, so I think about giving you a little break after PAX. ;) For some time I will keep BioWare busy by myself :D

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Yay! just got to a bit in my fic I've been looking forward to for AGES! Big Jack scene coming up that's specifically tailored towards Jackmance Shepards. Now I just need to work on getting it juuuust right....

anybody got some good Jack insults they'd like to throw out there for a Paragonmance Jackmancer MaleShep? Not specifically looking for a vulgarity blast that'll be caught by the censor on here, but something very clearly Jackish in quality. Bear in mind, this is a Jack in a relationship with a Shepard who made a decision that Pi***d. Her. Off., in capital letters. she loves shep, but she wants to rip his face off and stuff it up his butt-pucker at the same time.

Fainmaca Out.

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BTW, if you're wondering what annoyed Jack so much in this fic, just read chapters 35-37 of my fic. It explains everything.

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How can I find Mondo's profile?

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Premier Bromanov wrote...

Regarding Jack's sleep habits, her romantic inclination, and her sexual behavior with Shepard, these are Mondo's thoughts, re-posted with permission:

That is...almost disarmingly insightful. I'm very glad I read it.

And I don't mean to come across as a creeper now or anything, but several months back I read through portions of the previous Jack thread - "Into The Bad Girl" was the name, I think? They really ought to incorporate that into the games somehow, because it's just so lovingly perfect for Jack - and I remember Mondo's posts were always among the most enjoyable and thought-provoking. Even when I didn't always agree with them, the insights into Jack's psyche were quite extraordinary.

And, of course, I've read that Door comic several times.

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Mondos take seems really good......Did Mondo write Jack?

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fainmaca wrote...

BTW, if you're wondering what annoyed Jack so much in this fic, just read chapters 35-37 of my fic. It explains everything.


This is going to sound like a complaint but it isnt.  I hate you a little bit right now.  40ish chapters and I am trying to pack right now and I am so distracted.  Good stuff!!!!

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40 chapters and they are each long as hell. Should be a good read. Im stupid though and started at 35 where you mentioned why jack is pissed lol.

Modifié par WRXtacy, 30 mars 2012 - 03:54 .


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Aver88 wrote...


Daily those of spam: :innocent:

The most important thing:

Go and write few words in official feedback topic. It may be short or long, whatever. Just ask for Jack.
http://social.biowar...ex/10098213/201

Ask them for it via Twitter:
Official ME twitter
Mac Walters Lead Writter of ME
Producer of ME - Gamle Mike 

Show your support in this topics:
DLC about Jack 

Don't worry. Soon I will stop asking you to spam them. ;)


The facebook page (link in my sig) is for Jack too. Sadly, we're not getting a lot of support from the other ME2 squaddies.

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Udalango wrote...

Mondos take seems really good......Did Mondo write Jack?


Nope.  Must be flattering for Mondo to hear someone ask that, though.  In the old Jack thread, we always said that Bioware should hire Mondo to write Jack :o

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 30 mars 2012 - 04:30 .


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::Sigh:: I had forgotten just how much I missed Mondo on here.

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The beginning voice samples remind me of Jack Owsey - Places We Never Went Together

"You're not coming back are you?"

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Jack is by far and away my favourite character from the whole series. I was kinda sad she didn't get much attention in ME3.