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[His Name was HYR!!]

No huge changes, just a few small but significant ones. Prangley pretty much takes Jack's place completely. He tells Shepard that their instructor was killed, and he took over. There's also that dialogue with Rodriguez, she says that she just killed someone for the first time and asks Shepard if it gets any easier, to which there is a Paragon and Renegade response option to reassure her.

Back on the shuttle, there's a very emotional moment with Kahlee and Rodriguez remembering Prangley. Kahlee is also clearly unwilling to put the students in battle - noting the deaths of their instructor and Prangley - and is relieved if you put them in support (but the option to do otherwise is still there).

Here's the video:


@ Padt... I noticed that too. On a recent playthrough I put the kids in support, I usually have them fight. I was surprised by the students' objection. But then I was also pretty impressed with how Jack responded to them. She was firm, but reasonable, explaining to them that they'll do whatever the Alliance asks of them and not complain about it. Very mature on her part.

[KingNothing125]

Having gone through more than a few playthroughs, sending Jack and her cubs to both the back ranks and the front lines, I like sending them to the front more. The kids respond well and actually kick some ass and rescue a thousand or so Turian civilians on Palaven.

As for contradicting Jack's recommendations, I don't really look at it like she doubts the kids too much, I think she's just being overprotective. Sending them to the front and them kicking ass pretty much says Jack taught them well. At the end of the day, that's all a teacher can really hope for.

[Padt]

I usually send them to the front lines because...well, you know. Because it gives you more War Assets.

That said, during my first playthrough my original inclination was to have them work as support, not necessarily because I didn't think they were ready, but because Jack...well, she clearly loves those kids a lot, and I kinda wanted to minimize the chances of her losing any of them to the war (I mean, y'know. My Shepard wouldn't exactly be what you'd call a good boyfriend if he got one of her pups killed).

But then I figured, what the hell. They were trained by Jack and they have her around, and she's a pretty big booster for them. They can probably handle whatever. I just hope they appreciate the fact that my Shepard's lonely as hell up in the Normandy. It's all for you, kids.

[imp187]

 Okay, my letter for Jack is in...Just a few days and nearly no letter at all... please, take the 10 minutes it costs and write something down... YOU want more content for her, so please do something for it!
http://social.biowar...dex/11315889/1' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/325/index/11315889/1

[Urdaniel]

fainmaca wrote...
I wrote a letter for the Jack and the LI fanbook! What do you think?

Oh dear lord.    Here I was thinking I was going to submit a letter to the project as a break from writing Day 6 of TWK when I come upon this masterpiece.  Might differ in some of the details, but the sentiment is there.   Can I just point to you and say "Ditto?"   

<Waves>  Hello dead people (old and new).  Glad to see the Jack appreciation thread is going strong.  I used to visit "Into the Bad Girl" (this thread's predecessor)  once in a while back in the day, but real life got in the way (and is still threatening to, really).  Just wanted to pop in to say hi, really, but I'd like to offer my two cents on the recent topics:

1) I'm actually pretty satisfied with what little we see of Jack in ME3, my main annoyance being that my MShep keeps on waking up to an empty bed.  That's just, well, cold.  But compared to the cameos of the other ME2 folks (not counting Tali and Garrus who have received huge chunks of time over all three games), hers shapes up pretty well and seems to ring more true, unlike say Jacob and Miranda's (or even Kasumi's).  Which is not to say that I wouldn't welcome more content for Jack in the EC, but after ME3, I'm not holding my breath.

2) Jack vs. Cyberninja wannabe?  Bias says "Jack."  More objective says "Jack."  Kai Leng is apparently bada** only when the cinematic says he is (and the Thane sequence denies him even that).  The only concern would be KL's bushwhacking tactics (not to mention his cheapshot "get out of jail" abilities), but otherwise he barely rates in terms of sheer power level (I doubt he could storm-punch three Ymir's into scrap).  Also, what is it with people injuring villains in the legs then just leaving them?  This happens in Star Wars too, and remains (for me at least) inexplicable.  If you're willing to seriously maim someone then leave them for dead, why not finish the job and save future people the trouble of cleaning up the mess you didn't take care of?

3) My Shep tends to follow Jack's recommendations on Grissom and put the kids in the back line, for much the same reasons that have been raised here.  However, after reading the latest posts, I may try putting them in the trenches during my FShep's playthrough (which I have yet to complete as I'm dreading going through that dang ending again).

And that's all I've got for the moment.  I'll try not to be a stranger, but I've never been a big forumite (I tend to have little to say that's not already being said, and said better at that).  Crossing my fingers that the EC will be adequate (I have low expectations).

[Premier Bromanov]

More "Things Worth Keeping"? Yes, please!

I submitted my own letter to the LIA project.

[MattFini]

Sauruz wrote...

Jack' still waiting to get laid, Bioware.
+1 for more closure on Jack's romance in the Extended Cut DLC.

+20000000

[fainmaca]

Welcome back, Urdaniel! Glad to see you back in action. Can't wait for more TWK!

And thanks for the comments on my letter. I just hope it reaches the right ears at the Bioware offices.

[Padt]

I think as far as Jack's romance is concerned, the most we could probably expect from the Extended Cut would be...I don't know. Having her face appear along with Joker and Anderson during the flashbacks at the end. Maybe - maybe - having her find Shepard's body in the cutscene of the best possible Destroy ending. But as things stand right now, I think the likelihood of either of these things happening - the second one, especially - are extraordinarily low. I could, however, see her getting an epilogue slide or cutscene, something that isn't romance-specific detailing what happens to her after the events of the game.

(By the way, speaking of those ending flashbacks, I know people who romanced Miranda, Garrus and Kelly have modded the game to have the face of their preferred love interest appear during the flashbacks in place of Liara. Has anyone tried doing that with Jack? Would be really cool to see)

Modifié par Padt, 23 avril 2012 - 08:34 .

[imp187]

I think this could be very well something they get into the extended dlc...so the face of you LI is showing up etc... And maybe a little epilogue about jack, but nothing "special"...

that´s why we try everything to get a dlc just for the LI´s... but in my opinion they can´t put every LI in there because of resources etc... so, everybody who really wants more of jack, should show bioware that we are many and contribute to the LI Tribute project...
I really think that this will be our only chance...

[KingNothing125]

Resources schmesources. The flashback cutscenes for Joker, Liara, etc. are all about 2-3MB in size. They could have eeeeeeeasily fit one for each of the LI's on the disc. And they still can easily add them... all together, they would add about 20 or 30MB to a DLC. Big whoop.

[imp187]

And that´s why i clearly can see them adding these in the extended end dlc...

By the way, i´ll repeat it over and over if i have to ;-)
Jack is behind Samara in the contributed Art (even though i think/hope Nightfable will have her astounishing work ready in the next day or two)...
And Jack is even Samara in letter count... WRITE SOMETHING :-P

[calveers]

More Jack LI in me3

Don't wake up alone again

Modifié par calveers, 23 avril 2012 - 10:54 .

[Padt]

I think I'd actually be okay with it if we got something like the "staring at the picture frame" cutscene from Mass Effect 2. Perhaps something a little more lively, since by the end of ME3 Jack and Shepard at least are on good terms, unlike Shepard and Ashley/Kaidan in ME2, but the basic concept...yeah. I could live with it.

[DarkPrinceRevan]

ok heres my attempt at a letter, i think its too long thou



Dear Bioware

 

                First I wanted to say that I was initially on the
fence about getting into the mass effect series. Even thou I've played the originally
knights of the old republic and jade empire, thoroughly enjoying both for their
rich character driven stories. I wasn't sure if I wanted to get into the first
mass effect when it came out, I didn't think it would be a bad game. On the
contrary, I thought it'd be pretty good. Where most RPGs I’ve played have
compelled me to care about the characters and the story, I wasn't fully
immersed into the main characters because I didn't see myself as them. However
your games have given me the chance to make the character my own, by defining
their looks with a customizable appearance and intricate dialogue that gives
them a personality I control. I knew all this when mass effect came out but I
still wasn't convinced I could engage myself in the roll of Commander Shepard, at
least not yet.

                So a few years later mass effect 2 rolls around and
I'm not quite there yet. I hear the praise and see the accolades but still not committed.
Finally one faithful day my cousin buys the second game and I get a chance to
watch someone play first hand. I sit and observe and I think "hey it’s
like knights of the old republic, with just more sci fi". So as I’m
watching I get introduced to the squad one by one, see them go on missions and
interact with one another. But I’m getting tired of watching my cousins Shepard
take the strict paragon route in every instance and I’m like "oh come on you
could’ve shot that dude with Garrus sniper rifle and save yourself a bullet
later".

                Sometime later my cousin comes across the mission to
purgatory and I recognize it from the psychopath commercial. I remember
instantly who he’s about to recruit but I keep quiet cause I wanna see the
surprise look on his face when he finds out. And sure enough in the words of Tali
"It was worth", so priceless. After his shock wears off and I have a
moment to stop laughing, he finally catches up to that human biotic train. So
of course after his Shepard shoots the guy coming up behind Jack and they get
to talking, she does the one thing I swear I’ve wanted to do since I started watching
my cousin play. Like always he picks the paragon introduction and Jacks first
reaction his to call him out on being a by the book boy scout paragon, I couldn’t
have said it best.

                Understandably my cousin was thrown for a loop by
everything Jack said and did from that point on. She made him have to second
guess himself every time he approached right her up until they hit a
crossroads. He got all the way up to the point Jack challenged him on what was
he after, whether or not he had feelings or was just screwing around. Not
having to have heard Kelly’s psych evaluation about Jack, I instinctively knew
she was baiting him. I tried to warn him but the instant I opened my mouth he
had made his ever first renegade choice and had royally screw up. Jack shut
down and closes herself off and my cousin couldn’t understand what he did
wrong. Like any good gamer he went back a checkpoint and learned from his
mistake.

                Moving along he made good progress he had already
completed both Jack and Miranda’s loyalty missions when he was presented with
another crossroads. Despite whose strict paragon play style he surprisingly hadn’t
accumulated enough points to break the tie so he had to choose, Jack or Miranda
whose side was he on? I was vehemently against Miranda’s argument that Jack was
in the wrong so i had already made my pick but it wasn’t up to me. Weighing his
options he made the moral decision that Miranda was at fault and I was satisfied
Jack got some justice. However his decision came at a price, up until then he’d
been romancing Miranda and his going against her screwed the pooch pretty hard
for him so he made an immediate about face and left Jack hanging just like
that. Not knowing how to reconcile with her he just gave up on her like
everyone else.

                The end is near, the suicide mission is here. My
cousin blazes through collectors left and right, ending with a smoking reaper
larva thing falling down a shaft...twice. So he and his team are about to pull
out and get outta dodge when the last thing I expected happens. Jack dies. I
was crushed; I couldn’t believe she was just gone like that. But the kicker was
my cousin was just meh about it, Jack had rubbed in the wrong way and he just didn’t
care anymore. I wanted more time; it wasn’t enough just watching from the
sidelines without any power of the course of the story. So I caved, I went out
and got me a copy of both mass effects. I needed to experienced Jacks story for
myself, not just looking over someone’s shoulder or a YouTube video but i also couldn’t
just jump in head first in the middle of the trilogy without knowing the
beginning.

                I popped in the first game and set to work on molding
my Shepard. Knowing what little I gleamed from Jacks history i knew she was kidnapped
as a baby and was forced to grow up on her own in gangs. I decided I would be
earthborn without a family of my own and ran with a gang myself. Jack was in
every sense of the word a survivor, she made it this far in life on her own
however hard it may have been. My Shepard would also be a sole survivor,
through the harshest of conditions he would find a way to live. This also
cemented another factor they both shared, Cerberus involvement in shaping their
lives. So now feel i have both become Commander Shepard and laid the foundation
for understanding Jack.

                Now I’m hooked, fully immersed into the game. I’m
meeting Anderson, Joker, and Kaiden. Finding Ashley, solving crime with Garrus,
making friends of my enemies’ enemy with Wrex, saving Tali and Liara. We’re all
getting along. Ashley and Liara are both hitting on me, and I all I can think
is "Jack would make me work harder to catch her interest'. Not to say that
Ashley and Liara are easy far from it but there’s something about Jack not
being impressed with everything I’ve done that makes me pay attention. Ashley’s
and Liara's admiration and curiosity are the driving forces behind their
interest in me. While Jack doesn’t have a clue who i am or really care one way
or another. Not to mention it wouldn’t feel right to lead along either when i
really wanna get to know Jack later on.

                So more and more i find myself making decisions that I
normally wouldn’t have made otherwise if I wasn’t thinking of how would Jack
respond to this. Trying to save a bunch of biotics from some crazy zealot
instead of shooting up the place, defusing a hostile situation with biotics
involved where again id just shoot them instead of intimidating them into
submission and making Banes do something for biotics. Heck I even spared the Rachni
queen because she was taken tortured and experimented on by force like Jack. And
finally I have my first runs in with Cerberus, from the first moments I knew I
hated these guys. Aside from Akuze and Pragia, Cerberus is like the guys in
white hazmat suits who come out of nowhere in E.T. that dissect your best
friend right in front of you. Every opportunity I could I went after these guys
and anybody associated with them or thought along their mantra.

                Virmie’s the first real player punch I felt in a
while, Ashley or Kaiden whose it gonna be. I deliberated on my decision for at
least an half hour before I decided. I saved Kaiden and left Ashley on Virmire.
Not out of any malice for Ashley but mainly i hadn’t really given my chance to
get invested in her story. Kaiden was a biotic and had abit of a rough
beginning learning to use his abilities, and knowing what I know about Jack I
paid more attention felt his story alittle more. And remembering how my cousin
left Jack to die on his playthrough that gave me the extra little nudge to
spare Kaiden that fate, I still feel torn up about it Ashley as i should but it
was a tough call.

                The galaxies safe from the threat of sovereign but
the reapers are still out there, cut to the Collector’s blowing the crap of my
ship out of nowhere and I’m resurrected by the one organization I can stand
with all my being...Cerberus. I wanted to shoot the illusive man on sight just
off principle but I hate to admit I need his resources just as much as he
needed my leadership. So I dialed back the hatred for the mission but I refused
to wear their uniforms, got me some spacer clothes for off duty and I went to
work on recruiting the team. First stop was immediately Jack and I was ready,
but she still blew me away the instance she was out of cryo. Watching it from
the outside looking in is different than being in the front row, this time I
could take all of it in at my own pace. I’ve never really was into head to toe
tattoos because being an artist I like for designs to have a scheme or symmetry
to them. And Jacks are not only all over her body but there everywhere that
matters. Her tattoos are a road map of her life and their extremely complex in
there design and message. Simply put they mean screw off, everything about them
says "look away or ill hurt you". But I just keep my eyes off her the
whole time.

                I went through hell just to catch up with Jack and it
was bloody worth it to see her and those large expressive eyes. After the tats
the next thing that draws you in, is her eyes. If eyes are the windows to the
soul then I guess her tattoos would be the "stay of the lawn" signs
out front, but her eyes they tell her whole story. From her rage and
frustration at the sight of the Normandy hull plastered with the Cerberus logo
to her confusion and reservation when I blow the guy behind her away and
holster my weapon in a jester of trust. And the next thing you notice is her
mouth, from everything coming out of it to her very lips. Just her voice alone
is enough to tell her emotions, and watching her lovely full lips pull a sneer
to match the acid in her tone tells a story in of itself. So as funny as it was
the first time to watch, I wasn’t gonna introduce myself with the paragon
option. I took a more neutral approach to Jack, I was accepting of her
reluctance but wanted her to know I want her on my ship and if the cost was
dirt on Cerberus I’m all for it, hell if I could I id tell her I wasn’t to
happy with a Cerberus stamp on my ship either but what can you do huh.

                Back on the ship I enjoy the chances to get in Jacks
head and under her skin giving some of the dialogue. Hearing it all again and
watching the scenes as Shepard this time around, I really feel for Jack. Every story
every life lesson she sums up feels me with an emotion, from wanting to hug her
to wanting to kill the sob responsible for her pain even if she’s already
killed them once. And more and more protective of her, even if shed scold and
do bodily harm to me if any of these concerns were voiced to her person. Jack
makes you wanna do something for her because she deserved better. By her own
admission "deserves got nothing to do with it" you get what hand your
dealt in life and she got the worse of it. So maybe not so much deserve but she’s
earned something good to come her way and i want to be able to help her find
it.

                This brings us to Pragia and earning Jacks loyalty. Seeing
that place with her reaffirmed my hatred for Cerberus and the illusive man, all
that talk about a betterment of humanity and they do this to kids. But that
kind of hatred rots and eats away at you if you let it fester like that. I didn’t
want that for Jack, I wanted her leave that part of her past behind in a crater
you can see from orbit but not at the expense of killing another one like her. Aresh,
the last kid from the facility that found his way back as well. Instead of
wanting the place gone he wanted to rebuild and figure out in some twisted way
was it all worth it. I was reminded of my encounter with Toombs while hunting
down the last of the scientist responsible for Akuze. I cornered Toombs about
to kill the scientist, and listened while he pleads his case. Admittedly I
wanted to take a nice size chunk out of the scientist with my sniper rifle but I
reminded both Toombs and myself that we took an oath when we joined the service.
Killing that scientist would’ve been easy as a Spectre but bringing him to
justice as an alliance soldier to stand trial and free Toombs of his nightmare
outweighed the need for vengeance. i spared him like I’m encouraging Jack to
spare Aresh, he’s just as trapped in the past as Toombs was and has to let go
in under to come up for air from that darkness their stuck in.

                Jack and I are closing the gap and the walls don’t
seem so high from where I’m standing now but there’s always another hurdle to
get to things you want. I’m at the same crossroads like my predecessor before
me but I know the answers before the questions already been asked. I want the
real Jack, what’s hiding underneath the ink and the attitude. That took her off
her game, pushed her out her safe zone and hopefully let her know there was a
world out here worth living if she let me show her.  

                En route to omega four relay, Jack surprises me with
a visit. Having not been in a relationship with anyone in the first game I wasn’t
expecting the romance to culminate right before the final mission. and
culminate it did, all the build up all the Olympic hurdles Jack made me run to
get to this point. it was well bloody worth it, Jack needed this release this
opportunity to let go of her baggage if only for moment and to know that Shepard
would catch her. Everything about Jack romance arc was given justice and a
fulfilling closure by that one powerful scene. i got into mass effect because I
wanted to see Jacks story told and I’m glad I did. Not only did I fill
satisfied by seeing it firsthand, I was also able to enjoy building my own
story as the main character. I ended up fully embracing my role as Commander
Shepard and committed to see it through because I owe it to meeting Jack.

 
DarkPrinceRevan

Modifié par DarkPrinceRevan, 24 avril 2012 - 09:16 .

[imp187]

 I haven´t read it yet... just wanted to say, that visii, aryss and co will kill you for the lentgh of the letter 

[DarkPrinceRevan]

imp187 wrote...

 I haven´t read it yet... just wanted to say, that visii, aryss and co will kill you for the lentgh of the letter 

....heh yea i hadnt really thought about length when i started just tried to write something to help the cause

EDIT: but ill change it or write something else if it isnt exacly what theyre looking for

Modifié par DarkPrinceRevan, 25 avril 2012 - 12:56 .

[Visii]

DarkPrinceRevan wrote...

imp187 wrote...

 I haven´t read it yet... just wanted to say, that visii, aryss and co will kill you for the lentgh of the letter 

....heh yea i hadnt really thought about length when i started just tried to write something to help the cause

EDIT: but ill change it or write something else if it isnt exacly what theyre looking for

We're hoping for a letter, one page max, that kinda answers these questions from your Shepard's perspective: What did your Shepard see in (LI)? Did you see your Shepard as having
something in common with one LI in particular? How would you describe
the dynamic of their relationship? What about the interaction of the two
characters did you find particularly satisfying from an emotional
standpoint, to witness? How much did this aspect of the game add to your
overall enjoyment of Mass Effect?

Here's an example:

Dear BioWare,

My Jaine Shepard was a colonist and "Ruthless". She
had seen some terrible things, and done some terrible things. She
romanced Kaidan during the hunt for Saren, but he was too "good" for
her. To Jaine, he had made one mistake by accident a long time ago, and
she had made many bad decisions on purpose, and just couldn't seem to
let it go.

When Jaine woke up on the Lazarus station, she saw it
as a chance to do better and move forward without the iron fetters to
her past. She still had that hard edge, that tendency to lash out when
diplomacy might have suited better, but instead of beating herself up
over it, she just used to fuel her desire to be different. This was her
new chance, she wasn't going to screw it up.

Seeing Kaidan on
Horizon was, difficult. She had "hardened" Garrus during their time on
the SR1, so meeting up with him wasn't so awkward. But Kaidan; he had
changed and it wasn't her fault. Worse, he blamed her for it. She hadn't
chose to die, to leave him mourning her for two years! She'd been
dragged back from death to do her damn job and despite her determination
to do better, she wasn't about to take the blame and all the mental
anguish that goes with it, for something she didn't do. Jaine was done
with Kaidan; his email was an insult and she didn't respond.

When
she met Thane, the half-harnessed beast inside her, calmed inside its'
cage. She couldn't get the image of his cool stare, his body outlined by
the red and orange light of dawn, out of her head. He was very sure of
himself, and his skills. The news of his terminal illness, his eventual
death- if the suicide mission didn't do it- she swatted it away like an
insect.

She was determined to get to know him and quickly found
herself developing feelings for the drell. Jaine was the Butcher of
Torfan, but she wasn't racist, and wasn't concerned with his history;
for a long time, she had considered the military a means by which to
murder many, only with ribbons of honor and duty and patriotism tied to
it. Jaine saw no difference between her occupation and Thane's. She had
no problem loving an alien, and seized each day with a ferocious joy; to
do what she'd been brought back to do, to save people and stop the
Reapers, and to spend every free moment she could with Thane. Because he
was her equal. She couldn't push him around, he could hold his own in
combat and conversation. He understood what terrible deeds done in the
past do to a body, but like Jaine, he was trying to live in the present.


This is why I can't accept the culmination of Thane and
Shepard's relationship in Mass Effect 3. Shepard doesn't get to say the
things she should have been able to say; she doesn't get to tell Thane
she loves him. She doesn't get any opportunity to show some emotion at
his deathbed; denial, tears, anger. She doesn't get to express disbelief
that nothing still can be done for Thane, or demand why other treatment
options aren't available. I loved nearly everything about the Thane
romance in ME2; I only wish I could say the same for its' conclusion in
ME3.
____________

I did really like that letter of yours, though!

[DarkPrinceRevan]

Visii wrote...

DarkPrinceRevan wrote...

imp187 wrote...

 I haven´t read it yet... just wanted to say, that visii, aryss and co will kill you for the lentgh of the letter 

....heh yea i hadnt really thought about length when i started just tried to write something to help the cause

EDIT: but ill change it or write something else if it isnt exacly what theyre looking for

We're hoping for a letter, one page max, that kinda answers these questions from your Shepard's perspective: What did your Shepard see in (LI)? Did you see your Shepard as having
something in common with one LI in particular? How would you describe
the dynamic of their relationship? What about the interaction of the two
characters did you find particularly satisfying from an emotional
standpoint, to witness? How much did this aspect of the game add to your
overall enjoyment of Mass Effect?

Here's an example:

Dear BioWare,

My Jaine Shepard was a colonist and "Ruthless". She
had seen some terrible things, and done some terrible things. She
romanced Kaidan during the hunt for Saren, but he was too "good" for
her. To Jaine, he had made one mistake by accident a long time ago, and
she had made many bad decisions on purpose, and just couldn't seem to
let it go.

When Jaine woke up on the Lazarus station, she saw it
as a chance to do better and move forward without the iron fetters to
her past. She still had that hard edge, that tendency to lash out when
diplomacy might have suited better, but instead of beating herself up
over it, she just used to fuel her desire to be different. This was her
new chance, she wasn't going to screw it up.

Seeing Kaidan on
Horizon was, difficult. She had "hardened" Garrus during their time on
the SR1, so meeting up with him wasn't so awkward. But Kaidan; he had
changed and it wasn't her fault. Worse, he blamed her for it. She hadn't
chose to die, to leave him mourning her for two years! She'd been
dragged back from death to do her damn job and despite her determination
to do better, she wasn't about to take the blame and all the mental
anguish that goes with it, for something she didn't do. Jaine was done
with Kaidan; his email was an insult and she didn't respond.

When
she met Thane, the half-harnessed beast inside her, calmed inside its'
cage. She couldn't get the image of his cool stare, his body outlined by
the red and orange light of dawn, out of her head. He was very sure of
himself, and his skills. The news of his terminal illness, his eventual
death- if the suicide mission didn't do it- she swatted it away like an
insect.

She was determined to get to know him and quickly found
herself developing feelings for the drell. Jaine was the Butcher of
Torfan, but she wasn't racist, and wasn't concerned with his history;
for a long time, she had considered the military a means by which to
murder many, only with ribbons of honor and duty and patriotism tied to
it. Jaine saw no difference between her occupation and Thane's. She had
no problem loving an alien, and seized each day with a ferocious joy; to
do what she'd been brought back to do, to save people and stop the
Reapers, and to spend every free moment she could with Thane. Because he
was her equal. She couldn't push him around, he could hold his own in
combat and conversation. He understood what terrible deeds done in the
past do to a body, but like Jaine, he was trying to live in the present.


This is why I can't accept the culmination of Thane and
Shepard's relationship in Mass Effect 3. Shepard doesn't get to say the
things she should have been able to say; she doesn't get to tell Thane
she loves him. She doesn't get any opportunity to show some emotion at
his deathbed; denial, tears, anger. She doesn't get to express disbelief
that nothing still can be done for Thane, or demand why other treatment
options aren't available. I loved nearly everything about the Thane
romance in ME2; I only wish I could say the same for its' conclusion in
ME3.
____________

I did really like that letter of yours, though!

ok ill come up with another one then, maybe i'll save this one later for the jack book

[His Name was HYR!!]

 I have to say, I really hate this one derpy line: "I turned myself in to the Alliance, Jack."

Blegh, such a sheepish response.

[Visii]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

 I have to say, I really hate this one derpy line: "I turned myself in to the Alliance, Jack."

Blegh, such a sheepish response.

Yeah. After that kiss?

Ugh. It's not like she didn't know.

[DarkPrinceRevan]

ok i think i got a winner this time...i hope

Dear Bioware,

    Revan Shepard is a survivor. Born on the streets of Earth, he never had a family. Being in the Tenth Street Reds was the closest he had to one and the farthest thing from it. He did what he had and took what he needed from life to get by. When he was strong enough and old enough to fight his way out he left the Reds, and joined the Alliance. The Alliance was good for him, gave him a name and a place among its own as a soldier. The mental and physical scars of his old life still marked him but at least he could force them to the back of his mind when he put on his armor and fought alongside his new “family’. Then Akuze happened. The roar of thresher maws ripped into the calm of night. Revan used every skill he had acquired during his life on Earth with those taught in the Alliance to ensure he lasted through the night when no one else would. The massacre of his unit had hardened Revan, resigning himself in the role of a solitary infiltrator to avoid getting close to anyone else that he could lose in the line of duty.

    The Eden Prime War sought to change all that. Revan finds himself commanding a ship, recruiting a crew made up of different species, with a crew of dedicated men and women ready to follow him into hell and back. And still Revan held himself back from everyone, he could empathetic and easy going with the companions he would eventually come to call friends, but was cold and efficient out in the field. The mission had taken everything out of and from him; it was no real surprise that eventually it took his life. Revan had died after saving the galaxy but had gained nothing of personal satisfaction in life before his death; only at his final moments had he wondered if he had a second chance would he find something to live for as much as he has to fight for.

    Resurrected from the dead in depths of Lazarus, Revan Shepard is born anew. Given a second chance at life by the very people who have shaped the last few years of Revan’s life, Cerberus. During his quest to stop Saren, Revan found evidence that an organization named Cerberus had unleashed the thresher maws on him and his unit all those years ago. Now they wanted to give him a new ship and crew to work in their name for humanity, for the lost. Revan would fight for the galaxy but it wouldn’t be for Cerberus or on their terms, he made that clear to the Illusive Man from the start. Among his search to gather trust worthy specialist that would help his cause despite whose backing him, he had a chance encounter with a reckless inmate he was seeking for their or rather her biotics. Revan Shepard met Subject Zero aka Jack.

    Jack reminded Revan quite abit of himself in many ways. Both came from not so humble beginning with no family, growing under hellish conditions and hated Cerberus with a passion. She had been raised and experimented on by Cerberus in one of their facilies that Revan helped her destroy. Where Revan was fortunate enough to escape the gangs and Akuze, Jack had been trapped by Pragia and forced to fight the galaxy until now to get on with her life. Revan felt drawn to her despite her rough exterior and volatile temper. They both just wanted to be left alone but circumstances just wouldn’t let them be for long, for Revan the Reapers and Jack Cerberus. Eventually they came to trust and confide in one another that culminated in Jack letting her guard down in front of Revan to feel a genuine sense of belonging.

    I loved the Grissom Academy mission because it showed a growth for Jack and willingness to be open and upfront with Revan but also showed a vulnerability that she was still afraid to fully commit when theres so much a stake. But Revan doesn’t get the chance to confide in Jack the same way she did for him in ME2, at a time where the stress of the war has all but taken the fight out of Revan it should be this time more than ever that Jack should be there for him. I want Revan and Jack to confirm their desire to be with one another to be have more substance than a simple dance at a nightclub that you can see even if their just friends. They don’t get to see the end of Cerberus which has been a big part of both their lives together and never get to truly say goodbye without Jack masking her emotions. Revan and Jack found comfort in each other at the end of ME2, so the continuation of their story in ME3 should be seen through to the end with the same dedication it did in ME2.

DarkPrinceRevan, Cheers

Modifié par DarkPrinceRevan, 25 avril 2012 - 06:20 .

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I know this thread has been dying somewhat, so I though I'd post this beautiful screen shot of Jack to breath a little life in it. I took it while I was playing. *sigh* I just love that mischievious smile of hers, don't you

[Master_Anthony]

My Shep is still waiting to destroy the Reapers, then get laid!

More Jack Bioware....NOW!

[Padt]

Left to my own devices, I would post a truly obscene amount of Jack screenshots.