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[vX-INSANIAC-Xv]

Jonata wrote...


Rodriguez must have a lot of natural biotic potential, she just doesn't know how to use it.

I guess Jack was like that too once, a lot of potential but without the experience to know how to use it fully, but look at Jack now. Rodriguez is a possible character for future games based in the ME universe.

[spirosz]

vX-INSANIAC-Xv wrote...

Jonata wrote...


Rodriguez must have a lot of natural biotic potential, she just doesn't know how to use it.

I guess Jack was like that too once, a lot of potential but without the experience to know how to use it fully, but look at Jack now. Rodriguez is a possible character for future games based in the ME universe.

I highly doubt that, haha.  Would be a cool mention of important characters from the first three games, but I don't see her doing much in the universe.  Plus, I'd rather they not make anymore ME games, but thats just me.  

[DarkPrinceRevan]

spiros9110 wrote...

vX-INSANIAC-Xv wrote...

Jonata wrote...


Rodriguez must have a lot of natural biotic potential, she just doesn't know how to use it.

I guess Jack was like that too once, a lot of potential but without the experience to know how to use it fully, but look at Jack now. Rodriguez is a possible character for future games based in the ME universe.

I highly doubt that, haha.  Would be a cool mention of important characters from the first three games, but I don't see her doing much in the universe.  Plus, I'd rather they not make anymore ME games, but thats just me.  

well with all the relays blown to hell no matter what you do, could you even use the term Mass Effect and it have the same meaning in a new game

[CroGamer002]

spiros9110 wrote...

Plus, I'd rather they not make anymore ME games, but thats just me.  

Due to endings or something else?

[fainmaca]

spiros9110 wrote...

vX-INSANIAC-Xv wrote...

Jonata wrote...


Rodriguez must have a lot of natural biotic potential, she just doesn't know how to use it.

I guess Jack was like that too once, a lot of potential but without the experience to know how to use it fully, but look at Jack now. Rodriguez is a possible character for future games based in the ME universe.

I highly doubt that, haha.  Would be a cool mention of important characters from the first three games, but I don't see her doing much in the universe.  Plus, I'd rather they not make anymore ME games, but thats just me.  

If they'd managed to end 3 on a more upbeat note, I would have played in this universe until I died. Now, though... I'd have to be seriously impressed by a new game first.

[CroGamer002]

DarkPrinceRevan wrote...

well with all the relays blown to hell no matter what you do, could you even use the term Mass Effect and it have the same meaning in a new game

Actually in Control ending, Mass Relays aren't destroyed.

Just shutdown.


It will take far less time and resources to make them activated again.

[DarkPrinceRevan]

Mesina2 wrote...

DarkPrinceRevan wrote...

well with all the relays blown to hell no matter what you do, could you even use the term Mass Effect and it have the same meaning in a new game

Actually in Control ending, Mass Relays aren't destroyed.

Just shutdown.


It will take far less time and resources to make them activated again.

looked pretty destroyed to me in the youtube clips i saw, never done the control ending myself cause i refuse to accept any ending where the TIM is right....but it doesnt really matter cause the whole premise for the endings sucks anyway

[CroGamer002]

^Illusive Man was right that Reapers can be controlled and that's about it.


And guess what? They can be controlled.


And this is where it ends.


Illusive Man seek human elite dominance and he though with Controlling Reapers, he could accomplish that.

Shepard accepting Controlling the Reapers doesn't mean he/she is agreeing with that.
In fact, Shepard is railroaded to not agree with that thing at all.


So yeah, you choose Control for whole different reasons.




Also, we barely see Choran Relay being damaged, unlike in Destroy and Synthesis where is clearly destroyed.

That's due to cutscene department being lazy and just tried to hide destruction with lots of blue colors.


Besides, Patrick Weekes confirmed that in Control ending, Mass Relays are not destroyed like in Destroy and Synthesis.

Modifié par Mesina2, 08 juin 2012 - 06:31 .

[spirosz]

So, yeah. Who's here hoping they'll release a "hero" MP dlc and you'll be able to play as Jack or Wrex or whomever you please in MP.

Her skill list on the Xbox would be - LB = Win Y = Win RB = Win.

[DarkPrinceRevan]

Mesina2 wrote...

^Illusive Man was right that Reapers can be controlled and that's about it.


And guess what? They can be controlled.


And this is where it ends.


Illusive Man seek human elite dominance and he though with Controlling Reapers, he could accomplish that.

Shepard accepting Controlling the Reapers doesn't mean he/she is agreeing with that.
In fact, Shepard is railroaded to not agree with that thing at all.


So yeah, you choose Control for whole different reasons.

its not so much i dont believe he was wrong about controlling the Reapers, its the fact its painting as the Paragon decision that bugs me

Edit: Jack would steamroll in MP

Modifié par DarkPrinceRevan, 08 juin 2012 - 06:35 .

[CroGamer002]

^Well, you are sacrificing yourself to save everyone.


In Destroy you sacrifice your dear friend EDI and entire species geth.


In Synthesis you rape everyone in Milky Way.

[Jonata]

Mesina2 wrote...
^Well, you are sacrificing yourself to save everyone.
In Destroy you sacrifice your dear friend EDI and entire species geth.
In Synthesis you rape everyone in Milky Way.

I find the lack of Jack in this post disturbing.

[vX-INSANIAC-Xv]

Jonata wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...
^Well, you are sacrificing yourself to save everyone.
In Destroy you sacrifice your dear friend EDI and entire species geth.
In Synthesis you rape everyone in Milky Way.

I find the lack of Jack in this post disturbing.

I agree, if you have to go off topic try to keep it to something relevent to Jack and not just discuss something completely unrelated.

On another note, does anyone know if there are any affects in ME3 if you choose the casual relationship with Jack in ME2? I never classed it as a real relationship but if you choose it you cant do any other relationships in ME2 so I was wondering if it has an impact further on.

[DarkPrinceRevan]

meh what i wanna see is Shepard and Jack leading the charge with the ME2 and ME3 crew on some Reaper forces. if anything, the survival of your entire crew through the trilogy and your military strength shouldve effected the final push to the citadel to a final showdown with....maybe Reaper controlled Cerberus Hush and a Harbringer "Assuming Direct Controlled" Illusive Man? idk just something that feels like a final battle against the odds

Modifié par DarkPrinceRevan, 08 juin 2012 - 07:33 .

[Premier Bromanov]

Why are we talking about the endings in the Jack thread? There are a billion threads about the endings, go to those.

At the very least, I hope they add back in the way your war assets visibly benefit you in the final battle in London. This way, we get to see Jack and the fruit of her labors with her students.

[CroGamer002]

Sorry for being off topic, so here's some screenshot:




God I love that scene!

[DarkPrinceRevan]

somehow i can still picture Jack instead of teaching biotics leading a team of Cerberus hating mercenaries, crooks, and militia turned civilians sort of like Garrus did on Omega. and still punching Shepard to say hello

[Confused-Shepard]

Considering the kind of people and places Jack has been involved with, how kinky do you think Jack is? I don't mean to make light of years of abuse but surely hanging out in the seediest parts of the galaxy with petty thugs and criminals must have introduced her to some... interesting things. Sexual deviancy and all that.

[Premier Bromanov]

Posted this elsewhere, and posting it here, for conversation's sake:

Recently, I've heard many people mention how ME3 doesn't include the emotional aspect of Jack and Shepard's relationship. I agree with this.

In ME2, you are always at a distance from Jack, because she keeps you away. Gradually, though, you see her emotions peek through her exterior. Then, in the final romance scene, she undergoes that catharsis. After, there's the intimacy, and the smiling.

In ME3, the game does not address the emotional aspect of their relationship, and it shows, considering the ME2 arc. Jack and Shepard are physical with each other. In various lines, Jack is very forward with Shepard, expressing her desire for him. These are good, because they show that she is comfortable with him. What's missing, though, is something as deep as the scene with Jack in Shepard's cabin, in ME2.

You could argue that Jack would die before she'd let someone see her feelings for Shepard in public. That just increases the demand for a private scene, and makes me want one just that much more. That the final romance scene concludes no differently than if Shepard had just been her friend is disappointing.

if I could ask for a single scene for Jack from Bioware, it'd be something between Jack and Shepard only. It'd be them talking about the place they have in each other's life, maybe a little  about their future, and a bit about what Shepard means to her. Here and there, her concern that Shepard could die on Earth should show through in the tone of her voice and in her body language. Then, some more intimacy.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 08 juin 2012 - 09:03 .

[Premier Bromanov]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Considering the kind of people and places Jack has been involved with, how kinky do you think Jack is? I don't mean to make light of years of abuse but surely hanging out in the seediest parts of the galaxy with petty thugs and criminals must have introduced her to some... interesting things. Sexual deviancy and all that.

Mondo seems to think Jack's pretty kinky.  Sex harnesses and swings and belts and other implements.  Though, you mentioned the abuse, and for good reason, I think, because there's always the chance there's something she's not comfortable with due to the memories she attaches to it.

Modifié par Premier Bromanov, 08 juin 2012 - 09:16 .

[Confused-Shepard]

Premier Bromanov wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

Considering the kind of people and places Jack has been involved with, how kinky do you think Jack is? I don't mean to make light of years of abuse but surely hanging out in the seediest parts of the galaxy with petty thugs and criminals must have introduced her to some... interesting things. Sexual deviancy and all that.

Mondo seems to think she's pretty kinky.  Sex harnesses and swings and belts and other implements.  Though, you mentioned the abuse, and for good reason, I think, because there's always the chance there's something she's not comfortable with due to the memories she attaches to it.

Another thing is that when she was still on Pragia, she mentions being in forced cage fights and how the guards/scientists would copndition them to feel pleasure instead of pain during a fight (Using  hormones? "I still get warm feelings"). So, say she was fighting with Shepard, just a frioendly sparring session, considering how much of a reaction would that have both physically & emotionally? Also, would she be willing to share incidents and details of what was done with her? She does have a devil may care attitude and tells us of all the gruesome stuff at Pragia. So what about, "This one time at band camp..." type of stories?  

[Premier Bromanov]

It's hard to answer that question straight-up, because, by all accounts, Jack should be worse off than she actually is. I guess this is why some people say her writers overdid it with the dark and heavy elements to her character. Since Jack isn't a quivering mess, my answer is that some things may bring back horrible memories for her, but she's strong enough to not let them control what she wants to do, who she is, and who she wants to be. It's just up to Shepard to be patient and supportive.

[Jonata]

Premier Bromanov wrote...

Posted this elsewhere, and posting it here, for conversation's sake:

Recently, I've heard many people mention how ME3 doesn't include the emotional aspect of Jack and Shepard's relationship. I agree with this.

In ME2, you are always at a distance from Jack, because she keeps you away. Gradually, though, you see her emotions peek through her exterior. Then, in the final romance scene, she undergoes that catharsis. After, there's the intimacy, and the smiling.

In ME3, the game does not address the emotional aspect of their relationship, and it shows, considering the ME2 arc. Jack and Shepard are physical with each other. In various lines, Jack is very forward with Shepard, expressing her desire for him. These are good, because they show that she is comfortable with him. What's missing, though, is something as deep as the scene with Jack in Shepard's cabin, in ME2.

You could argue that Jack would die before she'd let someone see her feelings for Shepard in public. That just increases the demand for a private scene, and makes me want one just that much more. That the final romance scene concludes no differently than if Shepard had just been her friend is disappointing.

if I could ask for a single scene for Jack from Bioware, it'd be something between Jack and Shepard only. It'd be them talking about the place they have in each other's life, maybe a little  about their future, and a bit about what Shepard means to her. Here and there, her concern that Shepard could die on Earth should show through in the tone of her voice and in her body language. Then, some more intimacy.

I really hope this have the possibility to be heard by BioWare. I know we Jackolytes are not a majority amongst the fanbase, but unlike many others all we are asking is one more scene. Only one intimacy scene like Shepard has with almost every other LI (except Thane and Jacob).

They can add it amongst a "ME2 squadmates" mission pack, or with the Take Back Omega (Jack coming with us on Omega? She did liked that place), or alongside a priced DLC that only add a Shepard Bunny-suit, I don't care! I just want a single, from 50 seconds to 4 minutes long intimacy scene. It's not much but dammit it'll be enough. 

Modifié par Jonata, 08 juin 2012 - 10:23 .

[spirosz]

Word, I wanna hear her comment on her old room and Shep's new room w/ the ****ty cabin music, haha.

[spirosz]

You think she would wear a bracelet or some form of jewelry that Shepard made her? She'd probably ask what this was then throw it away - but come back later when Shepard is sleeping and secretly "take it back". Maybe not wear it, but keep it close to her. Maybe an ankle bracelet, but wouldn't that annoy her with her boots?