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#726
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Goat_Shepard wrote...

Back for a sec, been playing DA2 finally. Thankfully almost done.

demonic_cookie wrote...
But it actually is wrong. Jack is very vulnerable, especially after her LM. 

It is wrong to go around pushing someone who is as fragile as Jack is at that particular moment.

What part of "I still kinda want to kill everyone I see" speaks of vulnerability? You go full renegade in the post-LM convo and she happily agrees and then gleefully mocks you. Didn't seem vulnerable at all. Yes, she's going through a change, but she's still in control up until she realizes you're the real deal, and that's after she puts you on the spot. If she really didn't want the complication, she wouldn't bring the topic up, she would say you're pissing around and she doesn't want to play. I agree that some of the options seem like you're prodding a sad girl, the "yes, freaks you out doesn't it?" is one I particularly despise, but Shepard can take a relatively cautious approach, and at least she gives you a righteously vicious response to the former line.

I like the alternate paragon option you described, but I also don't grudge Shep for taking a chance at a hard line, with someone who always takes a hard line. Should she be handled like a vase of half-blown glass? Maybe. Maybe worrying so heavily about her fragility is counter-productive, and she calls you a pvssy and trashes your ship when you're not looking. I'm not saying it's the wrong choice, I'm agreeing with Kyrene that it's a judgement call.

axl99 wrote...

It's really nice how Jack's growing on a lotta people.

Indeed. And I appreciate your efforts in becoming Mr. Weekes' favorite Twit. That's the correct terminology, right? Getting some good information as of late.

Kyrene wrote...
Like mould, or fungus, or bacteria? :devil:

Pathogenic Jack. I like it.

Jedi Master of Orion wrote...
if he wrote Tali in the second game I have to say I'd be truly horrified if Jack turned into the nerdy awkward girl that appears in many Bioware games.

Well, he also wrote Mordin, so obviously there's no accumulation of personality between the characters that one person writes. The fact he wrote those 2 is good enough reason for me not to worry about anyone else he touches. Ever since I saw that picture of him in a belt bra I figured he wrote Jack in ME2, but maybe he only had a hand in it or something. Idk. I'm more and more convinced she's a "permanent" squaddie, tho.

This is also reassuring.

"Working hard to strike a balance. If chars don't grow, stagnate, feel like caricature. If too different, lose their magic."


That's actually kind of interesting. Mordin was perhaps my favorite character along with Jack.

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Always play FemShep but every now and then I see a clip and get curious about Jack. Like this one below.

Yay for more friendly conversations with our companions in ME3. Then my FemShep can finally get to know Jack better, now she had far to little dialogue with her.

Jack being awesome and well... Jack   =)

*goes back to lurking*

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Vertigo_1 wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...014423984082944

"Don't know if "soft side" ever applies to Jack. But can say your actions will affect her. :)"


Yay! Sounds like she won't change as drastically as some of us sometimes fear. Very good news.

Edit: fixed my typo

Modifié par punchbag, 13 juillet 2011 - 10:47 .


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punchbag wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...014423984082944

"Don't know if "soft side" ever applies to Jack. But can say your actions will affect her. :)"


Yay! Sounds like she won't change as drastically as some of sometimes fear. Very good news.


TINFOIL HAT! TINFOIL HAT!!

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@Epantiras: Now I want tinfoil hats to be part of our ceremonial Jackolyte attire. What? The robes have hoods, no one needs to--OOOH! Tinfoil-lined hoods!

I don't know how I'd feel about Jack meeting her family. Setting aside the fact that her mom will probably get killed in the Reaper attack (assuming she's still alive), and the fact that there are enough "daddy issues" in the ME universe, Jack doesn't really need her family, I don't think. I don't know if she'd know what to do with a real family. Although I've encountered some fanfics that tried to address the possibility of a reunion, I just... I don't like it, I guess. It seems like pointless extra drama. Jack has enough on her plate.

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Kyrene wrote...
Like mould, or fungus, or bacteria? :devil:

Yes. :lol:

Goat_Shepard wrote...
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This is also reassuring.

"Working hard to strike a balance. If chars don't grow, stagnate, feel like caricature. If too different, lose their magic."

Awesomeness news is awesomeness.

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Epantiras wrote...

punchbag wrote...

Vertigo_1 wrote...

http://twitter.com/#...014423984082944

"Don't know if "soft side" ever applies to Jack. But can say your actions will affect her. :)"


Yay! Sounds like she won't change as drastically as some of [us] sometimes fear. Very good news.


TINFOIL HAT! TINFOIL HAT!!


I am one the fearful ones too, where can I get this tinfoil hat?!!
(you need to join the new group btw Epantiras, your work has begun to be shared there)

Batlass8 wrote...

@Epantiras: Now I want tinfoil hats to be part of our ceremonial Jackolyte attire. What? The robes have hoods, no one needs to--OOOH! Tinfoil-lined hoods!

...


Oh, I already has tinfoil lining in my hood? Yay! now I feel safe


Batlass8 wrote...
I don't know how I'd feel about Jack meeting her family. Setting aside the fact that her mom will probably get killed in the Reaper attack (assuming she's still alive), and the fact that there are enough "daddy issues" in the ME universe, Jack doesn't really need her family, I don't think. I don't know if she'd know what to do with a real family. Although I've encountered some fanfics that tried to address the possibility of a reunion, I just... I don't like it, I guess. It seems like pointless extra drama. Jack has enough on her plate.


Yeah, Jack doesn't need her family because she loves only Shepard. And somehow I see it being done kinda lame. Maybe it should be released as a DLC (that might get them to do a good job on it... maybe).

Modifié par punchbag, 13 juillet 2011 - 11:01 .


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There's a very good fan fiction that doesn't necessarily involve Jack re-uniting with her mother, but during it's recent chapter, it has Jack finding out about her dossier from the Shadow Broker and learning how she was taken. It basically sums up that she was loved and wasn't taken away because she was bad or that no one loved her, but that her mother was tricked by Cerberus.

I'd rather have a conversation with her about how important that circumstance is. Might bring up some good conversations, depending on your background; losing your parents on Mindior, being a spacer or not having parents at all. Personally I don't see Bioware going out of their was to implement a DLC or quest involving her mother.

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@spiros: Do you have a link?

Also: I would hate to be Cerberus or any affiliated personnel after Jack finds out about that.

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@Bat

Here's the link, it's a long fan fic, but each chapter gets better and better.  http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6222882/1/
There's a line near the end of the last chapter that is so spot on for Jack, that it just makes me so sad, I won't spoil it for you, but I think you'll see which one, whenever you get to it. 

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Batlass8 wrote...

I don't know how I'd feel about Jack meeting her family.
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It seems like pointless extra drama. Jack has enough on her plate.

^ This.

Now, having her mother walk her down the aisle... Image IPB
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What tattoo would you like to have explained the meaning of?

I'd like to know what's up with the big omega on her back. Image IPB

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Agree about the parental drama. If anyone on this mission has personal issues they want you to sort I'm gonna snap.

Kyrene wrote...
Now, having her mother walk her down the aisle... Image IPB

I think Jack would lol

What tattoo would you like to have explained the meaning of?

I'd like to know what's up with the big omega on her back. Image IPB

I assumed it was a mushroom cloud.

Among the others, I'm also curious about the X on her head with the 5 digit number underneath. And the two crosses on her shoulders. And the 6-oclock corner of the star tattoo.

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@spiros

that's a good fanfic. thanks for the link

@Kyrene

I think I want every single tattoo explained by Jack in game. I want them to make dialogue options where Shepard can ask about one of her tattoos, and she answers... and as you progress through certain tatts you are able to ask about others, eventually where Shep is asking about tatts on her legs and feet (though those should require romancing her). But it should be done in a way that isn't weird or creepy. I'm not sure how to do it yet. Maybe in between missions shep can ask about a few tatts. And maybe the more hidden ones can be a part of foreplay.

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Hey SilentK! Hey Jedi Master of Orion!
Click the link in my sig and join the new growing Jack group!:)
(and all other Jackolytes reading this, that haven't already, join as well, or I may call you out specifically to join)

Modifié par punchbag, 15 juillet 2011 - 01:36 .


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How have I not noticed this before? And why is it so ADORABLE?

Image IPB

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

How have I not noticed this before? And why is it so ADORABLE?

Image IPB



You too?  When I finished off my last playthrough, which was my Canon playthrough, I noticed this for the first time.. she looks so at peace.  Something about it makes it seem so calm   

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Woah. When was that? ^^

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I always liked taking Jack along as my second on LM's. She has a lot of good lines. And she really looks good in that pic.
And that was during Tali's trial.

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I'm half way done reading that fanfic you guys were talking about. It's really damn good stuff.

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Image IPB

I just now noticed on my KOTOR playthrough how much Jack looks like Juhani (or is it Jack looking like Juhani? ^^). The lips, the eyeshadow, the widow's peak. And they're voiced by Courtenay - and hated by the majority of fans. :(

Oh Juhani, why can't you fancy guys. ;_;

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

How have I not noticed this before? And why is it so ADORABLE?

Image IPB


I can already imagine what she's thinking right now... "oh dammit when do we start killing people?"


stefanbw wrote...
I just now noticed on my KOTOR playthrough how much Jack looks like Juhani (or is it Jack looking like Juhani? ^^). The lips, the eyeshadow, the widow's peak. And they're voiced by Courtenay - and hated by the majority of fans. :(


Similar character design indeed :-)

stefanbw wrote...
Oh Juhani, why can't you fancy guys. ;_;


Then play as Female Revan (ok I'm just trolling)

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The lips I see but the rest I don't see as similar.

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Epantiras wrote...

I can already imagine what she's thinking right now... "oh dammit when do we start killing people?"


Nah, in that screenshot she's trying to deny how incredibly irresistible my manShep is when he's acting all suave and Charming his way through the Quarian legal system. She may look calm and somewhat bored, but trust me, there's an epic battle raging inside her and it's taking everything she has to hold back and not ravage my manShep.

........or maybe I should stick to fanfiction. :lol:

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KawaiiKatie wrote...

Epantiras wrote...

I can already imagine what she's thinking right now... "oh dammit when do we start killing people?"


Nah, in that screenshot she's trying to deny how incredibly irresistible my manShep is when he's acting all suave and Charming his way through the Quarian legal system. She may look calm and somewhat bored, but trust me, there's an epic battle raging inside her and it's taking everything she has to hold back and not ravage my manShep.

........or maybe I should stick to fanfiction. :lol:



Or she could be thinking of a ways to make fun of Shepard, which I find more likely to happen:lol:  

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Or she could be thinking of a ways to make fun of Shepard, which I find more likely to happen:lol: 


No, she's totally thinking of ways to integrate suave, lawyer!Shep into kinky roleplay. :wub:

"Alright, Commander, I'm on trial for 'vandalizing' a Hanar moon, and it's up to you to get me off scot-free. Now, why don't you show the jury just how well you can ply that wicked, silver tongue."

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