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[kumquats]

It's not about 'hate'. All the BW characters are designed to make people react to them, good or bad.
It just seems to me a little weird to script death of Squadmates in ME3, when you can kill all of them. It would make much more sence to me with the other ones, from ME1.

But I hope if someone dies it's a character a lot of people love, like Captain Anderson, Admiral Hackett. THAT would draw a very deep reaction from a lot of players

The comment sounded more to me: it's war, it's chaos and people will try to survive, maybe they start a resistence against the Reapers.
Maybe Jack wants to stay behind and help people, finally doing something that gives her live meaning.
I would want that for her.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I never really was that concerned about characters being potentially temporary. That wasn't really anything that was specific to her. It is an interesting idea I suppose.

[Goat_Shepard]

spiros9110 wrote...
This basically allows Shepard to enter into a heightened biotic state, enabling him to launch multiple powers.

That's pretty sweet.

I'm hoping they still keep Jack with her cool-down because using her as a squadmate in conjunction with my Adept was making Insanity too easy.

Really? I dislike Adept in general (tough on Insanity), and adding Jack to that seems extra arbitrary, and you find it easier?

Maybe she should have a power that enhances her running speed and allows her to maintain a barrier, which would allow her to use her shotgun more effectively. Obviously for a short-time and a long re-charge time, but very effective.

Idk about running speed, but barrier would go right with her survivalist personality.

Jack: I'm going down soon, get 'em off me!
*uses Barrier*
Jack: Muahahah!! Nothing can stop me!!

The reason I bring this up, is because I found warp ammo good, but well, she deserved a better unique power, especially seeing her go through 3 YMIR mechs like it was nothing.

It's not a "sexy" power, but I love it because she can share something with the rest of the squad, and in a bigger way than the ammo powers of the other biotics. Warp ammo > everything. The only thing I don't like is you can't max Warp ammo and Pull, but lv3 Pull is effective enough.

kumquats wrote...
It just seems to me a little weird to script death of Squadmates in ME3, when you can kill all of them. It would make much more sence to me with the other ones, from ME1.

Good point, but I think it'll be sort of our choice rather than a scripted death. Another Virmire situation and I'll headdesk pretty hard, might knock a screw loose.

yorkj86 wrote...

Certain squadmates will "turn" on Shepard, due to him making certain decisions, and they'll get in to a fight with him.

Indeed, like siding with the geth causes Tali to pull a gun on you and Ashley swoops in to shoot her down.

I expect videos being posted here, of Shepard teabagging Jack's corpse, accompanied by cries of "Durrhurr, u mad? u mad?".  It won't be isolated to this thread, or to Jack, either.

It will probably be a cut scene, like in ME2, so at least we won't see the teabagging. Here's the thing, Jack can already die, I've been trolled with "Jack blowd up" ss a couple times, so maybe we'll get lucky and the haters won't have a Jack to kill in ME3.

Here's another thing, unlike the geth/quarian conflict, I don't see Jack having a conflict of interest with you, unless you, ya know, try to kill her or something. What could she possibly have a problem with? Sacrificing lives? Torturing someone? Eating puppies? She'd sooner laugh her head off.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 23 juillet 2011 - 12:47 .

[Labrev]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

It will probably be a cut scene, like in ME2, so at least we won't see the teabagging. Here's the thing, Jack can already die, I've been trolled with "Jack blowd up" ss a couple times, so maybe we'll get lucky and the haters won't have a Jack to kill in ME3.

Well, Jack did say that if she'd died, she's haunting him/her, (Shepard).

Jack's ghost for ME3! That'll serve the haters right.

[spirosz]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

It will probably be a cut scene, like in ME2, so at least we won't see the teabagging. Here's the thing, Jack can already die, I've been trolled with "Jack blowd up" ss a couple times, so maybe we'll get lucky and the haters won't have a Jack to kill in ME3.

Well, Jack did say that if she'd died, she's haunting him/her, (Shepard).

Jack's ghost for ME3! That'll serve the haters right.

Lmao!!  I support Jack's ghost for ME3!!!! 


@Goat

Yeah, her cooldown gives my adept such great combinations.  Plus her shockwave is very useful in certain missions - Thane's Recruiment/Collector Base/Reaper IFF with all the husks.   Plus, since her cooldown is so short with Pull, it makes Scions so simple because it stops their shockwave animation.  I'll use pull, then get her to use it, vise versa.  Having her with Miranda or Samara are my favourite combinations or Grunt on occasion, but I only used her and Grunt during Horizon.  

Also, the reason I mentioned her running speed was because of that whole surviability aspect - I can see her running up to a Merc and just biotic punching them in the face, then quickly going back to cover.  It's all just in my imagination though, plus too many fanfics exploring ideas of her biotic power

Modifié par spiros9110, 23 juillet 2011 - 01:11 .

[Goat_Shepard]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...
Well, Jack did say that if she'd died, she's haunting him/her, (Shepard).

Jack's ghost for ME3! That'll serve the haters right.

Haha, perfect.



There we go, for all the people that fvcked her and fvcked with her but didn't kill her, they'll wish they were fighting Jack's ghost.

@Spiros

Adept doesn't really have anything for Shields tho so what do you do about those damn Blue Suns?

Also, I have to agree about the running speed, especially when I'm reminded of Purgatory where she's just flying down that corridor and gets in that squint's face before they can even raise their guns

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 23 juillet 2011 - 01:15 .

[spirosz]

@Goat

I usually just end up shooting their shields or just use Miranda's Overload. Warp and Throw does do damage against their shields, though not much and Singularity drains them, while keeping them immobilized for 1-2 seconds, depending on being upgraded or not.

[KyreneZA]

I just watched that vid, and with the exception of seeing Liara not being the SB (and yet again stalking my Shepards), I took nothing negative from it. I liked the climbing ladders (hello Witcher 2), didn't like how the biotic punch missed entirely, but somehow still hit the enemy, and liked seeing Mordin alive and kicking at least (wonder who would replace him if he died SM?)

I really love Jack (more than I have any character in any game for a good many years; I think the last was Qara in NWN2), but I'm okay with losing her in ME3 to the war. Death makes for epicness. ME was epic, because I didn't want to lose either Ashley or Kaidan, but lost one of them each and every playthrough (can you tell that Liara is my actual Virmire target?) I didn't like Jacob much, but I send him into the vents, not because of that, but because he volunteers each and every time, and his death transcends him. My second fireteam leader dies more often than not too, sacrifcing themselves for the rest of the team. I almost always get a little moist eyed when they show the caskets scene. So if Jack dies to the war, and not some cheap death+teabagging by haters, I'm really okay with it. Looking forward to it, actually.

What I did realise from that vid is that I play like a BIG GODDAMN ROOKIE. Zaeed would be so proud. Not!

[punchbag]

If she dies in some climatic event (preferably towards the end of the game), I'll probably be okay with it. But I'm more under the impression that she just might go off and do something else (even though that seems ridiculous since she has nothing in her life but Shepard). Casey Hudson's "squad mates coming and going" statements are somewhat ambiguous, and I kinda take it more as some squad members leaving for other reasons instead of dying. Most of them I'd rather they die than leave.

Modifié par punchbag, 23 juillet 2011 - 08:56 .

[KyreneZA]

If she goes off and does something else, I'd be happy too. Shepard shouldn't be the be-all-end-all of recovering Jack's life. Makes for a nice happy ever after in my mind after ME3 anyway.

And I could see an early death also working. I know I'd be steamed, so imagine how that would motivate Shepard to kick arse. I know Saren never got the easy "suicide out" because his actions led to me having to let Shepard sacrifice the VV.

Harbinger: I know you feel this, Shepard... Wtf, that hurt...
Shepard: Jack sends her regards, ****. Hello, dead Reapers!

[Goat_Shepard]

To the above statements:

Jack: No.
Sten: No.
Arishok: No.
Veetor: No no no no no no no no.
Luke Skywalker: Noo. It's not true! That's impossible!
Darth Vader: Nooooooooooo!
Dr. Evil: How bout NO?!?
Christina Norman: Noo! This isn't a realistic warfare simulation game!

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 23 juillet 2011 - 12:44 .

[kumquats]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

kumquats wrote...
It just seems to me a little weird to script death of Squadmates in ME3, when you can kill all of them. It would make much more sence to me with the other ones, from ME1.

Good point, but I think it'll be sort of our choice rather than a scripted death. Another Virmire situation and I'll headdesk pretty hard, might knock a screw loose.

Yes, people seem to want it, but I think a Virmire 2.0 szenario will be stupid and uninspired
I have two playthrough for each of them, Virmire is no big deal! Or it was a big deal, the first time.

I'm not worried for Jack not for a second, she is a survivor, that's her thing.

[axl99]

yorkj86 wrote...

axl, if you read this thread, congratulations on getting so much of your art put up on Bioware's SDCC fanart display.

Haha, thanks. I was practically shocked that not 1 but 8 pieces actually made it to the wall. I thought the judges might just choose a couple outta the package I sent them, but apparently I was wrong.

[punchbag]

axl99 wrote...

yorkj86 wrote...

axl, if you read this thread, congratulations on getting so much of your art put up on Bioware's SDCC fanart display.

Haha, thanks. I was practically shocked that not 1 but 8 pieces actually made it to the wall. I thought the judges might just choose a couple outta the package I sent them, but apparently I was wrong.

pshh, of course you were wrong, all your work is amazing!!

[KyreneZA]

Found an amazing photo op for your Shepard and his/her LI during Garrus' LM:


(Behind every successful Shepard, there's Jack)

Modifié par Kyrene, 24 juillet 2011 - 12:00 .

[Sepewrath]

I am completely against some random death for an attempt at dramatics for Jack or anyone for that matter. If Jack dies, it needs to be because of what I did, not because the game deems she is expendable enough to kill but important enough to matter.

[spirosz]

Casey was talking about how squadmates might leave you because of a certain decision or action, whatever and that you might end up needing to kill them. I wonder, what do you think would make Jack leave if that's even possible.

[Sepewrath]

Well the easy one would be siding with Cerberus, especially after they have spent the game trying to kill you, this would really resonate with an LI Jack I think, She finally opens up to you and you would be in her eyes, betraying her, the very thing she was so afraid of.

[spirosz]

Sepewrath wrote...

Well the easy one would be siding with Cerberus, especially after they have spent the game trying to kill you, this would really resonate with an LI Jack I think, She finally opens up to you and you would be in her eyes, betraying her, the very thing she was so afraid of.

Yeah, I agree, I was gonna mention that, but that one seemed too obvious.  Maybe something involving kid's and biotics, maybe even the reaction from a previous LI if you had one, though I tend to stay single in ME1

[Sepewrath]

I cant think of a situation where Shepard would be doing something with kids, Shep doesn't seem like the child soldier type, even as a renegade. Not to mention Casey confirmed that at the moment, there are no more kids in the game outside of that one from the E3 demo. I think a former LI would more than likely have to deal with a Jack flipout than Shepard.

Which one do you think looks like Jack?

[spirosz]

yorkj86 wrote...

Does anyone else think that several of the possible designs up for vote for default FemShep's appearance look a lot like Jack?

I thought the same thing about this photo