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#1176
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Slurms McKenzie wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Slurms McKenzie wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

I was thinking of doing another character (engineer) who is going Paragon so he may romance Jack and leave the Renegade infiltrator for Miranda or Tali.


Yes. You do that.

Why that response?  :whistle:


Why not? Does it freak you out?

Just curious on how you wrote it. Sounds dismissive.

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T3hAnubis wrote...

Slurms McKenzie wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Slurms McKenzie wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

I was thinking of doing another character (engineer) who is going Paragon so he may romance Jack and leave the Renegade infiltrator for Miranda or Tali.


Yes. You do that.

Why that response?  :whistle:


Why not? Does it freak you out?

Just curious on how you wrote it. Sounds dismissive.


Dismissive? Nah.........it did freak you out though didn't it?

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Slurms McKenzie wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Just curious on how you wrote it. Sounds dismissive.


Dismissive? Nah.........it did freak you out though didn't it?

Freaked out? Nope, but it did raise an eyebrow...
Anyway, no more OT, back to Jack.

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So...the "a" in "appreciation" isn't capitalized. That's sort of weird. Okay, then.

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No need to be so abrasive, Slurms.

spiros9110 wrote...
Hey Goat how do you change the text of your link? 

[*url=blahblahdotcom]Enter text here[/url*]
Minus the asterisks.

kumquats wrote...
Psychopaths manipulate other people and are very charming, as far as I know.
Jack would be the worst psychopath of all time.

Hahaha! Wouldn't it be great if she were manipulating us the whole time, and everything she said and did in ME2 was all but an act, even the crocodile tears. A truly evil squadmember, that would be so legendary :D

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

kumquats wrote...
Psychopaths manipulate other people and are very charming, as far as I know.
Jack would be the worst psychopath of all time.

Hahaha! Wouldn't it be great if she were manipulating us the whole time, and everything she said and did in ME2 was all but an act, even the crocodile tears. A truly evil squadmember, that would be so legendary :D


I would bow to Jack as my overlord forever! Brilliant. :lol:

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T3hAnubis wrote...

My Shepard basically acts like a jerk and is direct but when his action would affect a friend or a lot of people or a race, he actually thinks about it. It may not make sense to you but it does for me.

I understand that. Doesn't really sound like "going renegade" though.

For instance: my wife the other day was purposely making just paragon choices for a number of conversations post-Horizon. When asked, she replied that she was worried she didn't have enough and needed the paragon points for Tali's trial. I said it didn't matter, she could just incite the crowd, or claim there was no evidence and get Tali exiled and Tali would still be loyal. Couldn't she roleplay it, or these "all-paragon" choices she was making? She said no.

That really threw me. Then again my wife's characters are carbon copies of her, just with a different sex, occupation and LI, but she can [spacebar] through most of the game since she never deviates much from a certain dialogue path.

Long aside, aside: I thought you meant that kind of playing where if it's written in red, or flashes red on the left of the screen you do it, regardless. Your infiltrator sounds more like a rene-with a good sized dose of-gon. (Just like) Jack might actually like him, so don't listen to Slurms. Posted Image

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l DryIce l wrote...

So...the "a" in "appreciation" isn't capitalized. That's sort of weird. Okay, then.

That's why it kinda gets Jack off.

Or were you referring to the second "a" in "appreciation"? (And that's why I kinda get Jack off too)

That's it, Slurms needs to write a 100 word essay on why no title case was used for the topic title and how it could kinda get Jack off.

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well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.

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Clonedzero wrote...

"no she's a gentle little kitten!"


When did anyone say that?

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Clonedzero wrote...

well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.


You didn't state an opinion....you pretty much said "Jack is a psychopath who kills for fun" as it was a fact and it was pointed out that that wasn't true.  She's not a "gentle little kitten".  Like was said, she has issues, but she doesn't just kill kill kill for the hell of it.  She's violent, abrasive, aggrassive, loud mouthed, and ****-talking, but not psychopath. 

I don't think anyone cares that you don't really care for her that much overall.  That's an opinion and you're entitled to that.  But, when you start saying Greedo shot first, you're starting a discussion.  When there is overwhelming evidence against something you try to state as fact, you're going to be told such.  It's not people being rabid. 

Modifié par Ninjapino, 02 août 2011 - 10:33 .


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Double post

Modifié par Ninjapino, 02 août 2011 - 10:33 .


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Clonedzero wrote...

well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.

So what you're sayin' is you've been tryin' to troll this thread since five (edit:) eight pages ago?

Sh*t, you sound like a p*ssy!

Modifié par Kyrene, 02 août 2011 - 10:44 .


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Also, the point of the character isn't that she's a psycho killing machine....it's that she wants you to think she's a psycho killing machine, but she's actually much more complex and deeper than that. So, yeah, you missed the point of the character, I'd say.

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Clonedzero wrote...

well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.



By stating what you just said, you obviously missed the point of her character.  Jack is not a "gentle little kitten," and never will be in my opinion, but that doesn't change the fact that she cares about other people, she just has trouble showing that she does.  What do you expect from her position and what she's been through, just to open herself up like a book?  We've stated countless time's that she's never murdered anyone innocent, or who didn't deserve it - she's obviously killed in the past, but from what she's told us, it's always been mercs, people looking to kill her and criminals of any kind (Drug Dealers, Rapists, etc) 

Sure, you can call her a sociopath, pyschopath, whatever at first glance or even from first talking to her because of the way she presents herself, but when it comes down to it, she's a person who can care and who does care, but has issues.

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Kyrene wrote...
So what you're sayin' is you've been tryin' to troll this thread since five (edit:) eight pages ago?

Sh*t, you sound like a p*ssy!

You revealed a flaw in my argument, you're rabid, I say, rabid!

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It seems a lot of people think Bioware would actually create a character who was simply a murdering psychopath with no development, depth, or purpose except to ****** you off. I would greatly respect Bioware's decision to do something like that, cuz afterall there are people who are like that, but it'll never happen. There's a social message to all these stories and many fail to see that.

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but she IS a sociopath...lol, just because she has an emotional side, doesnt mean she's not a sociopath.

sociopath is a loosely defined term. Jack fits quite well into having antisocial personality disorder (which is commonly called a sociopath). fits pretty much every requirement for diagnosis from the DSM.

and im not trolling. im trying to discuss her character, how i found it hard to sympathize with her because of her personality and what she's done. defending her violent past IS missing the point of her character. she's supposed to be a damaged, violent person who's done horrible things. shepard is supposed to be the redeeming force, who helps her change, deal with her issues and grow as a person.

but you guys defending her past as if she's an innocent person is missing the point of her character, she's not supposed to be innocent at all. quite the opposite. she was a space pirate and merc, outlaw and thief for quite awhile, you think she was playing robin hood the whole time? grow up...

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Goat_Shepard wrote...

Kyrene wrote...
So what you're sayin' is you've been tryin' to troll this thread since five (edit:) eight pages ago?

Sh*t, you sound like a p*ssy!

You revealed a flaw in my argument, you're rabid, I say, rabid!



It seems a lot of people think Bioware would actually create a character who was simply a murdering psychopath with no development, depth, or purpose except to ****** you off. I would greatly respect Bioware's decision to do something like that, cuz afterall there are people who are like that, but it'll never happen. There's a social message to all these stories and many fail to see that.

yeah, pick one phrase i said and harp on that instead of listening to the entire arguement, it makes you look smart... :whistle:

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Clonedzero wrote...

well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.


Obviously you know more about Jacks character then we do. Thank you for coming and enlightening us.

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GOALISTAIR wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.


Obviously you know more about Jacks character then we do. Thank you for coming and enlightening us.

i thought this thread was here to discuss jack? i guess we're just supposed to talk about how she's totally awesome and post random fan pictures of her instead of have in depth discussions on how her horrible actions of her past have an effect on how some perceive her character, but yeah, why would we wanna do that?

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Clonedzero wrote...

GOALISTAIR wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

well i guess it was a bit pointless for me to try and convey my outlook on jack without rabid fans saying "no she's a gentle little kitten!"

keep up the delusions guys. i think you missed the point of her character.


Obviously you know more about Jacks character then we do. Thank you for coming and enlightening us.

i thought this thread was here to discuss jack? i guess we're just supposed to talk about how she's totally awesome and post random fan pictures of her instead of have in depth discussions on how her horrible actions of her past have an effect on how some perceive her character, but yeah, why would we wanna do that?

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You don't want to discuss Jacks character. You want to state your opinion as a fact. No one here was being rude to you. You're the one being insulting.  

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I smell a fight. Is there a fight? Please behave yourself, everyone!

[EDIT]

Posted 15 minutes ago on Courtenay Taylor's Twitter:
"Another day of work on a most excellent video game franchise...super grateful and needing some good posture exercises!"

Still teasing, eh?

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GOALISTAIR wrote...

You don't want to discuss Jacks character. You want to state your opinion as a fact. No one here was being rude to you. You're the one being insulting.  

yes, bringing up how i like her character but have problems sympathizing with her due to her past isn't discussing her at all.

and her fitting every requirement for antisocial personality disorder isn't really opinion. and her killing innocents is heavily implied numerous times. she goes into detail multiple times on how she takes pleasure in killing people. i mean im not stating opinions here, thats her character, if you do a paragon romance of her she breaks down and shows you her emotional side, but she's still that person.

her doing all those horrible things is part of her character, its supposed to be a way for you to see how damaged she really is. saying she's never killed an innocent person is ridiculous. her entire character is built around being deeply flawed, why are you all in such denial that she's killed innocents? its a big part of her character progression and development, you know, her realizing that she's done wrong things and all that?

but whatever, i'll still just get dismissed as a troll for not blindly agreeing with the group opinion, so whatever.

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LOL She has to know the anticipation is killing us!Posted Image

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This was going to be a random post to show Jack Appreciation but,

GOALISTAIR wrote...


LOL She has to know the anticipation is killing us!Posted Image


then I noticed you profile pic and had to take time out of my busy day to say that it is awesome.