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[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Zall wrote...

Jack's romance gets to me each time I replay the game. Jack as a character is interesting enough already, but I'm most moved by how Shepard refuses to leave her. Despite all odds, Jack gets the chance to be loved and accepted, to find one day peace from her past. Out of all characters, she deserves a happy ending the most.

I totally agree. I know there's more to Tali being cute and Miranda being sexy for people to like them, but I can't help but say that people are so judgemental about the way a person talks or looks. Judging a book by its cover, so to speak. It's essentially like that with Jack. And yeah, I was really moved too by the way Shepard keeps trying to be accepted by Jack. Like, "You're a crazy b*tch. So what? That doesn't mean I don't want to be with you. We're all crazy for going on this mission in the first place."

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 14 août 2011 - 11:47 .

[_Sylar_]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Zall wrote...

Jack's romance gets to me each time I replay the game. Jack as a character is interesting enough already, but I'm most moved by how Shepard refuses to leave her. Despite all odds, Jack gets the chance to be loved and accepted, to find one day peace from her past. Out of all characters, she deserves a happy ending the most.

I totally agree. I know there's more to Tali being cute and Miranda being sexy for people to like them, but I can't help but say that people are so judgemental about the way a person talks or looks. Judging a book by it's cover, so to speak. It's essentially like that with Jack. And yeah, I was really moved too by the way Shepard keeps trying to be accepted by Jack. Like, "You're a crazy b*tch. So what? That doesn't mean I don't want to be with you. We're all crazy for going on this mission in the first place."

The fact that she's not like the other women in the crew,makes her unique <3 She's crazy,sexy and not the person she refers to be!Because behind that mask of coldness,she's just like everyone else-want to be loved and be accepted But she shows that in her own way!

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Zall wrote...

Jack's romance gets to me each time I replay the game. Jack as a character is interesting enough already, but I'm most moved by how Shepard refuses to leave her. Despite all odds, Jack gets the chance to be loved and accepted, to find one day peace from her past. Out of all characters, she deserves a happy ending the most.

I totally agree. I know there's more to Tali being cute and Miranda being sexy for people to like them, but I can't help but say that people are so judgemental about the way a person talks or looks. Judging a book by it's cover, so to speak. It's essentially like that with Jack. And yeah, I was really moved too by the way Shepard keeps trying to be accepted by Jack. Like, "You're a crazy b*tch. So what? That doesn't mean I don't want to be with you. We're all crazy for going on this mission in the first place."

The fact that she's not like the other women in the crew,makes her unique <3 She's crazy,sexy and not the person she refers to be!Because behind that mask of coldness,she's just like everyone else-want to be loved and be accepted But she shows that in her own way!

Evidently. Jack's mental state has suffered greatly as a result of years of torture and abuse. And on that note, I do remember a recent article stating that you can get certain LI's pregnant in ME3. That in mind, I wonder how being pregnant will affect Jack mentally and emotionally. Will she start to question her ability as a parent? Will she tell Shepard that she is not fit for that role, given her past? Or will she become softer as a person overall and slowly revert back to her personality from before she was raped and tortured all those years ago?

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 14 août 2011 - 11:30 .

[_Sylar_]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Zall wrote...

Jack's romance gets to me each time I replay the game. Jack as a character is interesting enough already, but I'm most moved by how Shepard refuses to leave her. Despite all odds, Jack gets the chance to be loved and accepted, to find one day peace from her past. Out of all characters, she deserves a happy ending the most.

I totally agree. I know there's more to Tali being cute and Miranda being sexy for people to like them, but I can't help but say that people are so judgemental about the way a person talks or looks. Judging a book by it's cover, so to speak. It's essentially like that with Jack. And yeah, I was really moved too by the way Shepard keeps trying to be accepted by Jack. Like, "You're a crazy b*tch. So what? That doesn't mean I don't want to be with you. We're all crazy for going on this mission in the first place."

The fact that she's not like the other women in the crew,makes her unique <3 She's crazy,sexy and not the person she refers to be!Because behind that mask of coldness,she's just like everyone else-want to be loved and be accepted But she shows that in her own way!

Evidently. Jack's mental state has suffered greatly as a result of years of torture and abuse. And on that note, I do remember a recent article stating that you can get certain LI's pregnant in ME3. That in mind, I wonder how being pregnant will affect Jack mentally and emotionally. Will she start to question her ability as a parent? Will she tell Shepard that she is not fit for that role, given her past? Or will she become softer as a person overall and slowly revert back to her personality from before she was raped and tortured all those years ago?

Many possibilities here!I mean if Shepard decides to stay with her,that would surely make her softer,revealing her true personality.However if he rejects her...well it's a mistery for me.what could happen to a woman,who has constantly seen pain and torture in her life?...and again abondoned by her lover...

As to question the ability of parenting..I doubt it.With a kid on the way,she will have a deeper meaning,making sure that what she has seen,her child should never see.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Zall wrote...

Jack's romance gets to me each time I replay the game. Jack as a character is interesting enough already, but I'm most moved by how Shepard refuses to leave her. Despite all odds, Jack gets the chance to be loved and accepted, to find one day peace from her past. Out of all characters, she deserves a happy ending the most.

I totally agree. I know there's more to Tali being cute and Miranda being sexy for people to like them, but I can't help but say that people are so judgemental about the way a person talks or looks. Judging a book by it's cover, so to speak. It's essentially like that with Jack. And yeah, I was really moved too by the way Shepard keeps trying to be accepted by Jack. Like, "You're a crazy b*tch. So what? That doesn't mean I don't want to be with you. We're all crazy for going on this mission in the first place."

The fact that she's not like the other women in the crew,makes her unique <3 She's crazy,sexy and not the person she refers to be!Because behind that mask of coldness,she's just like everyone else-want to be loved and be accepted But she shows that in her own way!

Evidently. Jack's mental state has suffered greatly as a result of years of torture and abuse. And on that note, I do remember a recent article stating that you can get certain LI's pregnant in ME3. That in mind, I wonder how being pregnant will affect Jack mentally and emotionally. Will she start to question her ability as a parent? Will she tell Shepard that she is not fit for that role, given her past? Or will she become softer as a person overall and slowly revert back to her personality from before she was raped and tortured all those years ago?

Many possibilities here!I mean if Shepard decides to stay with her,that would surely make her softer,revealing her true personality.However if he rejects her...well it's a mistery for me.what could happen to a woman,who has constantly seen pain and torture in her life?...and again abondoned by her lover...

As to question the ability of parenting..I doubt it.With a kid on the way,she will have a deeper meaning,making sure that what she has seen,her child should never see.

There's also the possibility that Jack will stay away from her child, at least until the child is older and more mature, so as not to let her child be exposed to the trauma-ridden train wreck that is Jack. Personally, I'd prefer Jack slowly reinventing herself, maybe grow some hair, wear something on the upper half of her body, or get rid of some of her tatoos. Don't get me wrong. I like Jack the way she is. I'm just wondering what she'll change with herself in the event that she gets pregnant, for the sake of the child.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 14 août 2011 - 11:43 .

[eternalnightmare13]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Zall wrote...

Jack's romance gets to me each time I replay the game. Jack as a character is interesting enough already, but I'm most moved by how Shepard refuses to leave her. Despite all odds, Jack gets the chance to be loved and accepted, to find one day peace from her past. Out of all characters, she deserves a happy ending the most.

I totally agree. I know there's more to Tali being cute and Miranda being sexy for people to like them, but I can't help but say that people are so judgemental about the way a person talks or looks. Judging a book by it's cover, so to speak. It's essentially like that with Jack. And yeah, I was really moved too by the way Shepard keeps trying to be accepted by Jack. Like, "You're a crazy b*tch. So what? That doesn't mean I don't want to be with you. We're all crazy for going on this mission in the first place."

The fact that she's not like the other women in the crew,makes her unique <3 She's crazy,sexy and not the person she refers to be!Because behind that mask of coldness,she's just like everyone else-want to be loved and be accepted But she shows that in her own way!

Evidently. Jack's mental state has suffered greatly as a result of years of torture and abuse. And on that note, I do remember a recent article stating that you can get certain LI's pregnant in ME3. That in mind, I wonder how being pregnant will affect Jack mentally and emotionally. Will she start to question her ability as a parent? Will she tell Shepard that she is not fit for that role, given her past? Or will she become softer as a person overall and slowly revert back to her personality from before she was raped and tortured all those years ago?

Many possibilities here!I mean if Shepard decides to stay with her,that would surely make her softer,revealing her true personality.However if he rejects her...well it's a mistery for me.what could happen to a woman,who has constantly seen pain and torture in her life?...and again abondoned by her lover...

As to question the ability of parenting..I doubt it.With a kid on the way,she will have a deeper meaning,making sure that what she has seen,her child should never see.

There's also the possibility that Jack will stay away from her child, at least until the child is older and more mature, so as not to let her child be exposed to the trauma-ridden train wreck that is Jack. Personally, I'd prefer Jack slowly reinventing herself, maybe grow some hair, wear something on the upper half of her body, or get rid of some of her tatoos. Don't get me wrong. I like Jack the way she is. I'm just wondering what she'll change with herself in the event that she gets pregnant, for the sake of the child.

If you're talking about the article from Sarcastic Gamer that Javier posted up here on the forums the whole thing proved to be fake.  Unless Casey comes out and says in plain English that 'yes, female LI's can get pregnante in ME3' I wouldn't put much stock into it.  I love ME series and Jack but seems plain silly to be putting that in this game at this point.  It's supposed to be about war not playing house.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

If you're talking about the article from Sarcastic Gamer that Javier posted up here on the forums the whole thing proved to be fake.  Unless Casey comes out and says in plain English that 'yes, female LI's can get pregnante in ME3' I wouldn't put much stock into it.  I love ME series and Jack but seems plain silly to be putting that in this game at this point.  It's supposed to be about war not playing house.

Oh. That's too bad. Still, it would be interesting to see how Jack will approach the whole pregnancy situation.

But really? Mass Effect is all about war? I beg to differ. Sure, it is an integral part of the franchise, but I wouldn't have bought it if it was just a mindless FPS game like Call of Duty. There are plenty of games like CoD, and ME3 is not one of them. You're basically saying that Mass Effect is not about getting to know people while choosing whether or not to help with their problems along the way. Sure, that may sound cheesy, but it is essentially this RPG element that has driven the ME franchise to be as good an experience as it is. Why do you think the romance parts of the games are the most viewed scenes of ME on the internet?

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 14 août 2011 - 01:57 .

[eternalnightmare13]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

If you're talking about the article from Sarcastic Gamer that Javier posted up here on the forums the whole thing proved to be fake.  Unless Casey comes out and says in plain English that 'yes, female LI's can get pregnante in ME3' I wouldn't put much stock into it.  I love ME series and Jack but seems plain silly to be putting that in this game at this point.  It's supposed to be about war not playing house.

Oh. That's too bad. Still, it would be interesting to see how Jack will approach the whole pregnancy situation.

But really? Mass Effect is all about war? I beg to differ. Sure, it is an integral part of the franchise, but I wouldn't have bought it if it was just a mindless FPS game like Call of Duty. There are plenty of games like CoD, and ME3 is not one of them. You're basically saying that Mass Effect is not about getting to know people while choosing whether or not to help with their problems along the way. Sure, that may sound cheesy, but it is essentially this RPG element that has driven the ME franchise to be as good an experience as it is. Why do you think the romance parts of the games are the most viewed scenes of ME on the internet?

No, I'm not saying that at all. Relationships matter in ME's story because if you don't have connection to anyone anything what are you fighting for?  All soldiers have something personal they're fighting for beyond 'God and Country' or their sense of duty.  


My playing house reference is to the fact that some people, not you in particular, seem to place way too much emphasis on romancing every character that appears on screen.  

And quite frankly I feel that BW has dropped the ball when it comes to friendships with characters.  Friendship is a very valid and important type of relationship, but it seems to be a trend in gaming that any relationship has to be sex.  ME2's approach to it was horrible in general.  Characters stop talking to you...what?!  Garrus barely talks to you after two years and he's supposed to be your best bud?  WHAT?!

I like Jack. I like the writing of her romance - a lot. It's one of the best in the series given her character actually develops a lot in the story compared to others.  I think her voice acting is smexy.  I think threads for character support is great.

Yet it is a subplot and should be kept as so. 

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

If you're talking about the article from Sarcastic Gamer that Javier posted up here on the forums the whole thing proved to be fake.  Unless Casey comes out and says in plain English that 'yes, female LI's can get pregnante in ME3' I wouldn't put much stock into it.  I love ME series and Jack but seems plain silly to be putting that in this game at this point.  It's supposed to be about war not playing house.

Oh. That's too bad. Still, it would be interesting to see how Jack will approach the whole pregnancy situation.

But really? Mass Effect is all about war? I beg to differ. Sure, it is an integral part of the franchise, but I wouldn't have bought it if it was just a mindless FPS game like Call of Duty. There are plenty of games like CoD, and ME3 is not one of them. You're basically saying that Mass Effect is not about getting to know people while choosing whether or not to help with their problems along the way. Sure, that may sound cheesy, but it is essentially this RPG element that has driven the ME franchise to be as good an experience as it is. Why do you think the romance parts of the games are the most viewed scenes of ME on the internet?

No, I'm not saying that at all. Relationships matter in ME's story because if you don't have connection to anyone anything what are you fighting for?  All soldiers have something personal they're fighting for beyond 'God and Country' or their sense of duty.  


My playing house reference is to the fact that some people, not you in particular, seem to place way too much emphasis on romancing every character that appears on screen.  

And quite frankly I feel that BW has dropped the ball when it comes to friendships with characters.  Friendship is a very valid and important type of relationship, but it seems to be a trend in gaming that any relationship has to be sex.  ME2's approach to it was horrible in general.  Characters stop talking to you...what?!  Garrus barely talks to you after two years and he's supposed to be your best bud?  WHAT?!

However, when you put it that way, it seems to me that the more interaction there is with every character in ME3, the better the overall experience will be. And I agree with that statement. I mean, call me crazy, but having more romance in the game as well as friendships does not have to mean that these added parts will overtake the mission to save the universe in terms of importance. BioWare has some pretty awesome writers after all. It'll simply be a more satisfying experience by the time you finish the game. Mind you, ME3 probably will be the last game in the Mass Effect franchise that'll involve the current cast of characters, so I think making the game as fulfilling as possible is the utmost priority.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 15 août 2011 - 01:59 .

[Zall]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

_Sylar_ wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...
Evidently. Jack's mental state has suffered greatly as a result of years of torture and abuse. And on that note, I do remember a recent article stating that you can get certain LI's pregnant in ME3. That in mind, I wonder how being pregnant will affect Jack mentally and emotionally. Will she start to question her ability as a parent? Will she tell Shepard that she is not fit for that role, given her past? Or will she become softer as a person overall and slowly revert back to her personality from before she was raped and tortured all those years ago?

Many possibilities here!I mean if Shepard decides to stay with her,that would surely make her softer,revealing her true personality.However if he rejects her...well it's a mistery for me.what could happen to a woman,who has constantly seen pain and torture in her life?...and again abondoned by her lover...

As to question the ability of parenting..I doubt it.With a kid on the way,she will have a deeper meaning,making sure that what she has seen,her child should never see.

There's also the possibility that Jack will stay away from her child, at least until the child is older and more mature, so as not to let her child be exposed to the trauma-ridden train wreck that is Jack. Personally, I'd prefer Jack slowly reinventing herself, maybe grow some hair, wear something on the upper half of her body, or get rid of some of her tatoos. Don't get me wrong. I like Jack the way she is. I'm just wondering what she'll change with herself in the event that she gets pregnant, for the sake of the child.

Jack has called herself in the LoSB dossier a monster, she has marked herself with scars and tattoos in order for others to recognize that. There's no way, that she would see herself fit to raise a child, but maybe if paragonized, Shepard can convince her otherwise.

I can imagine her having nightmares, that her child might one day suffer through what she had to experience. She'd be a highly protective mother, fearing that Cerbereus might one day try to get her child. It's not too unlikely, especially if Jack's kid shows biotic potential as well.

Jack might change her appearance due to the child or she might not. She won't be running around half-naked anymore for sure, but she might get rid of her tats due to security, so that she won't be recognized as a criminal or found again by Cerbereus.

[Goat_Shepard]

eternalnightmare13 wrote...
If you're talking about the article from Sarcastic Gamer that Javier posted up here on the forums the whole thing proved to be fake.  Unless Casey comes out and says in plain English that 'yes, female LI's can get pregnante in ME3' I wouldn't put much stock into it.  I love ME series and Jack but seems plain silly to be putting that in this game at this point.  It's supposed to be about war not playing house.

lol I was about to ask where the hell is that info. I think we've already crossed the silliness boundary when they added the option to romance (aliens) on infinitely important missions that are sometimes literally titled A Race Against Time. Pregnancy does happen, and I agree with Modro that I think Jack would reinvent herself, but almost instantly, knowing she had finally added something to the 'verse instead of subtracting, much like Thane with Kolyat.

However, I'm 99% sure nothing like that will happen in ME3 because of A) Resources and The Miranda fans would cry. They would just cry...and then get Jack killed.

eternalnightmare13 wrote...
Friendship is a very valid and important type of relationship, but it seems to be a trend in gaming that any relationship has to be sex.  ME2's approach to it was horrible in general.  Characters stop talking to you...what?!  Garrus barely talks to you after two years and he's supposed to be your best bud? WHAT?!

But between Garrus' recruit and loyalty mission, I did feel like we were best buds. I know you get spontaneously derailed in the Normandy convos, but their missions are very personal, and my single!Shepard felt like he was good friends with everyone. Becoming friends with Wrex in ME1 was an amazing subplot, and I sort of got the same feeling with Grunt. The problem is it's not presented as deep as the romances, which it very well could. I Never honestly expected 3 different subplots for each of a dozen individuals, but they seem to be working on the "friendship talk" in ME3, which will no doubt ****** off the people you refered to as wanting to romance every character that appears on screen.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 14 août 2011 - 02:32 .

[Goat_Shepard]

We'll call her....Miranda.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

lol I was about to ask where the hell is that info. I think we've already crossed the silliness boundary when they added the option to romance (aliens) on infinitely important missions that are sometimes literally titled A Race Against Time. Pregnancy does happen, and I agree with Modro that I think Jack would reinvent herself, but almost instantly, knowing she had finally added something to the 'verse instead of subtracting, much like Thane with Kolyat.

It would certainly be a satisfying end to the series to see Shepard raising a family with his/her loved one. I would like to see how members of your crew and your LI would react to pregnancy, especially Jack. Mordin will have a lot on his hands as well. However, I agree with you that BioWare probably won't implement this in ME3.

However, I'm 99% sure nothing like that will happen in ME3 because of A) Resources and The Miranda fans would cry. They would just cry...and then get Jack killed.

LOL I knew getting into a relationship with Miranda had some sort of catch to it. It seems like this is the price to pay for having an unrealistically sexy body. For all we know, those breasts could be made of children's play-dough.

KingNothing125 wrote...

There's certainly inconsistency between destroying 4 YMIR mechs at once and being subdued by a group of prisoners.

I think the Jack "reveal" was just overdone to increase its "wow, awesome" factor. classic "Cutscene Power" trope. Nothing wrong with it, I enjoyed it, and I certainly said "wow, awesome", but let's face it...there's no way anyone's going to take down 3 (shown in the cutscene) or 4 (mech corpses after-the-fact) YMIR mechs singlehandedly in that amount of time. Doesn't matter who you are.

http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=5&q=jack%20mass%20effect#/d46flpf

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 14 août 2011 - 03:09 .

[Goat_Shepard]

Zall wrote...
Jack has called herself in the LoSB dossier a monster, she has marked herself with scars and tattoos in order for others to recognize that. There's no way, that she would see herself fit to raise a child, but maybe if paragonized, Shepard can convince her otherwise.

To hide the scars that make her a monster. She's not proud of it. I see where you're coming from and I can see her as an overprotective mother. Definitely not a natural one, she'd probably not even want it and/or fail at first, but I think Jack conceiving a child with someone she loves could be the catalyst to her "finding" herself, not as a "cure-all" or because she needs it to magically love life, but because she wants to.

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...
It would certainly be a satisfying end to the series to see Shepard raising a family with his/her loved one. I would like to see how members of your crew and your LI would react to pregnancy, especially Jack. Mordin will have a lot on his hands as well. However, I agree with you that BioWare probably won't implement this in ME3.

Indeed, there are few things in the 'verse as terrible as taking a life. Shepard and co do so much killing in these games, far more than they can save. For Jack, it's been her whole life. To end it with the creation of life (an act that few things are more amazing than) would be like the penultimate in feel-good moments for me, like Han Solo swooping in at the last minute to save the day

LOL I knew getting into a relationship with Miranda had some sort of catch to it. It seems like this is the price to pay for having an unrealistically sexy body. For all we know, those breasts could be made of children's play-dough.

Bleh, I don't think she's sexy at all. The man jaws, the horrible complexion, the chest-is-a-different-skin-tone-than-her-neck, the fat ass, and that wanky right eye. But the reason I find her unattractive is because of her multi-personality disorder involving fake sweet-talking charm followed by or preceded by spontaneous constipation. Bioware didn't have to go further than that to prove she's "not so perfect", but they did anyway, and I know one hardcore fan in particular who switched from Miri to Liara faster than you can say "infertile".

http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=5&q=jack%20mass%20effect#/d46flpf

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That maleshep has woman-breasts.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 14 août 2011 - 03:45 .

[eternalnightmare13]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

eternalnightmare13 wrote...
If you're talking about the article from Sarcastic Gamer that Javier posted up here on the forums the whole thing proved to be fake.  Unless Casey comes out and says in plain English that 'yes, female LI's can get pregnante in ME3' I wouldn't put much stock into it.  I love ME series and Jack but seems plain silly to be putting that in this game at this point.  It's supposed to be about war not playing house.

lol I was about to ask where the hell is that info. I think we've already crossed the silliness boundary when they added the option to romance (aliens) on infinitely important missions that are sometimes literally titled A Race Against Time. Pregnancy does happen, and I agree with Modro that I think Jack would reinvent herself, but almost instantly, knowing she had finally added something to the 'verse instead of subtracting, much like Thane with Kolyat.

However, I'm 99% sure nothing like that will happen in ME3 because of A) Resources and The Miranda fans would cry. They would just cry...and then get Jack killed.

eternalnightmare13 wrote...
Friendship is a very valid and important type of relationship, but it seems to be a trend in gaming that any relationship has to be sex.  ME2's approach to it was horrible in general.  Characters stop talking to you...what?!  Garrus barely talks to you after two years and he's supposed to be your best bud? WHAT?!

. Becoming friends with Wrex in ME1 was an amazing subplot, and I sort of got the same feeling with Grunt. The problem is it's not presented as deep as the romances, which it very well could.

Exactly.

[CroGamer002]

Goat_Shepard wrote...



We'll call her....Miranda.

Double irony?


I mean, Miranda can't be pregnant and Illusive Man, who is responsible for what happen to Jack, real name is Jack.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Indeed, there are few things in the 'verse as terrible as taking a life. Shepard and co do so much killing in these games, far more than they can save. For Jack, it's been her whole life. To end it with the creation of life (an act that few things are more amazing than) would be like the penultimate in feel-good moments for me, like Han Solo swooping in at the last minute to save the day

That kind of mirrors Thane's speech to Kolyat, but no complaints here. Thane's is easily the best written romance for FemShep anyway. But unlike Thane, Jack also needs to 'find' her true self, and I think having a child will help her get there. Conceiving a child will help 'fix' Jack, which in return will be beneficial to the child. After all, Jack's personality is a result of years of killing and people trying to kill her. Imagine the kind of change she will experience once she does the opposite of what she's been doing all these years; she adds life to the universe instead of taking it away. I think the change will be radical.

Also, I do think that Jack conceiving a child could symbolize the entire Reaper conflict too. I mean, Jack has been abused her whole life, just as the Reapers have killed many throughout the series. By conceiving a child, Jack creates hope for herself and motivation to change her self-destructive personality for the child's benefit as well as her own. Jack's horrifying life experiences are analogous to the Reapers, while Jack's child symbolizes hope and is analogous to every bit of life in the universe. Each species can have a part in saving the universe, just as Jack's child has a part to play in saving Jack.

Bleh, I don't think she's sexy at all. The man jaws, the horrible complexion, the chest-is-a-different-skin-tone-than-her-neck, the fat ass, and that wanky right eye. But the reason I find her unattractive is because of her multi-personality disorder involving fake sweet-talking charm followed by or preceded by spontaneous constipation. Bioware didn't have to go further than that to prove she's "not so perfect", but they did anyway, and I know one hardcore fan in particular who switched from Miri to Liara faster than you can say "infertile".

Don't forget her botox-overloaded immovable cheeks face render.

I really don't like Miranda all that much, but to be fair, there are certainly gamers who don't like Jack all that much either, so I guess it balances out. To me, Miranda and Jacob are essentially just sex symbols to bolster appeal to the game. As you can see, Jacob's appeal all but backfired on him, if it even existed in the first place. Miranda's, not as much.

That maleshep has woman-breasts.

Probably because it's a FemShep.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 14 août 2011 - 10:40 .

[eternalnightmare13]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

That maleshep has woman-breasts.

Probably because it's a FemShep.

Not surprised since Jack looks like a tween boy in that comic.

Modifié par eternalnightmare13, 14 août 2011 - 09:44 .

[spirosz]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

That kind of mirrors Thane's speech to Kolyat, but no complaints here. Thane's is easily the best written romance for FemShep anyway. But unlike Thane, Jack also needs to 'find' her true self, and I think having a child will help her get there. Conceiving a child will help 'fix' Jack, which in return will be beneficial to the child. After all, Jack's personality is a result of years of killing and people trying to kill her. Imagine the kind of change she will experience once she does the opposite of what she's been doing all these years; she adds life to the universe instead of taking it away. I think the change will be radical.

Also, I do think that Jack conceiving a child could symbolize the entire Reaper conflict too. I mean, Jack has been abused her whole life, just as the Reapers have killed many throughout the series. By conceiving a child, Jack creates hope for herself and motivation to change her self-destructive personality for the child's benefit as well as her own. Jack's horrifying life experiences are analogous to the Reapers, while Jack's child symbolizes hope and is analogous to every bit of life in the universe. Each species can have a part in saving the universe, just as Jack's child has a part to play in saving Jack.

I really agree with the part I bolded.  "Adding life to the universe instead of taking it away".   There's so many possibilities with Jack's character growth, it's great. 

Modifié par spiros9110, 15 août 2011 - 01:55 .

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i wonder what role jack going to play in me3, cause i was read someone else post from another topic and thy made a point to think on. They said if you did not romance jack she really has no reason of coming back to help shepard, so i want to know what you guys think about that!?

[spirosz]

I actually like the idea of Jack not following Shepard if she's not romanced because it works with her attitude of not being all over him, like most other characters. I can still see her being there if Shepard needed her help because he went through a lot with Jack (the LM mission specifically and didn't even have to help her) and even if she doesn't realize it, Shepard will still be there for her as a friend. Also, doesn't she say something around the lines of "I owe you Shepard"?

Modifié par spiros9110, 15 août 2011 - 02:26 .

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

spiros9110 wrote...

I actually like the idea of Jack not following Shepard if she's not romanced because it works with her attitude of not being all over him, like most other characters. I can still see her being there if Shepard needed her help because he went through a lot with Jack (the LM mission specifically and didn't even have to help her) and even if she doesn't realize it, Shepard will still be there for her as a friend. Also, doesn't she say something around the lines of "I owe you Shepard"?

I don't know, maybe uncover something Cerberus-related, perhaps? Most likely a piece of information further detailing how Cerberus might be connected to the Reapers. TIM's motives are somewhat unclear as of now.

Bonte15 wrote...

i wonder what role jack going to play in me3, cause i was read someone else post from another topic and thy made a point to think on. They said if you did not romance jack she really has no reason of coming back to help shepard, so i want to know what you guys think about that!?

On the contrary, Jack has every reason to come back to Shepard, regardless of whether or not she was romanced. After all, they both have a common enemy in Cerberus. In that event, she'll probably be seeking Shepard's assistance (a.k.a. firepower) to infiltrate some facility related to Cerberus or something to that effect. This lead may even be related to those strange creatures Aria and company were trying to fend off in the Afterlife Club in ME: Invasion.



Art by Omar Francia.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 15 août 2011 - 06:27 .

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Bonte15 wrote...

i wonder what role jack going to play in me3, cause i was read someone else post from another topic and thy made a point to think on. They said if you did not romance jack she really has no reason of coming back to help shepard, so i want to know what you guys think about that!?

Even if Shepard didn't romance her, Shepard could have been her friend
if not limited by the relationship mechanics and still proven to her
that someone had her back. So that would be reason for her to come back,
not as just another proud member of the harem, but as a friend looking out for a friend who did the same for her. It would certainly help that Shepard is fighting Cerberus, I would think she would be on board, no matter how she felt about Shepard.

Modifié par Sepewrath, 15 août 2011 - 02:57 .

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Hey Jack fans! Finally started my Jack ME2 run. Just wrapped up Freedom's actually.

Can you kick start the romance quicker if you pick up Jack first? I'm debating that over Mordin

but he allows you to upgrade quicker....>.>