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[GOALISTAIR]

punchbag wrote...

GOALISTAIR wrote...

A couple of days ago I was watching the movie Eastern Promises and it got me re-examining Jack. I found an interview with Viggo Mortensen and the makers of the film, which explained why tattoos were so important to Viggo's character. I started to think of Jack's character. Particularly when Shepard asks her about her ink and she mentions that some are for prisons she been in. I started to think that Jacks tattoos serve a purpose. Some to show other inmates where she's been, what she's done and to warn not to fvck with her. Perhaps some were to show her rank in the cult. In Russian prisons you are no one if you don't have tattoos, and maybe that's also true in the world of mass effect prisons. Maybe the concept of wearing your criminal history on your body for everyone to see inspired Jack's character design. 
I also found it ironic that in Russian prisons criminals have to tell the true story of what they're guilty of for everyone to see. Lying is not an option. When you think of a criminal you think of a liar, of someone who is dangerous because you  don't know what they are capable of. And these criminals have to show exactly what they are capable of. This made me think of how honest Jack's character is. She wears her story on her body. Here she is letting you know exactly who she is, where she's been, and what she's capable of. Jack doesn't lie, not even to herself. She knows she's not normal in the head and she admits it. For the life of me I cannot understand the hate Jack gets in this forum. You can't take Jack at face value and if some one does they are truly missing out on a wonderful character. And that baffels me.
Jack also says that some tats are to remember, some for things she's lost, and that they're no ones business. I think those are the ones that are meant just for her, like Ms. Taylor said. I doubt she would ever tell anyone what those are for. Not even if she's with Shepard. Jack might have started out as Biowares " token bad girl ", an edgey counterpart to the sex kitten Miranda. But the end result is anything but " token " or one dimensional.
Anyway the tattoo concept mentioned in the film made me all crazy about Jack all over again, so I thought I'd share  Forgive me if this has already been brought up, I just found an interesting link between the movie and Jack.  
 

I agree.
Excellent post is ecellent enough that I don't even feel a need to make an elaborate response to quote it.

Thanks Punchbag!

I have to agree with King, "Hello dead people" is the best choice. classic Jack!

Modifié par GOALISTAIR, 23 août 2011 - 01:01 .

[Sepewrath]

idoless24 wrote...

Am I the only one who thinks we need an awesome Jack quote in the title like some of the other appreciation threads? Not to hop on the band wagon or anything but it would be cool..

I personally like the one where she says she would rather be killed then forced to nod and smile at everything..can't recall it exactly but it pretty much sums up her character perfectly.

Well Miranda and Tali don't lol. How about "She'll smear the walls with you"

[spirosz]

"Hello, Dead People!" just sounds so perfect. People who know her would recognize the title, if that was the title. Though, I'm fine with the title we have right now.


You know, I wonder how Bioware is going to approach the Jack romance for ME3, specifically sex. In my perspective, they did not have sex during the ME2 scene, which I'm fine with because my Shepard wouldn't force or rush into anything. I'm just curious as how they're going to implement the development towards that one particular aspect because they can only do so much in the game. Since Jack is one of many LI's (and there's the whole Reaper threat), I hope they really nail the emotion and development towards those two being "ready", and not just having it for the sake of showing it. If say, Jack was the only LI (obviously wouldn't happen), then they could really focus on the bond and relationship between the two, while still having the the Reapers being the main priority. I hope the writers really take in consideration of what her fan's want.

I'm also stating this because of the squadmate permanence during ME3. We really don't know how or what each squadmate will do and it doesn't help that she isn't the most popular. I'm keeping my hopes up, but I'd just like to see what you guys think.

[Sepewrath]

Well Kaidan and Ashley are very popular either and their already accounted for, maybe Jack will be made into a Spectre too lol.

[spirosz]

Sepewrath wrote...

Well Kaidan and Ashley are very popular either and their already accounted for, maybe Jack will be made into a Spectre too lol.

If Jack's made a Spectre, then the Turian councilour now believes Shepard "Reaper Theory" rofl.  

[CroGamer002]

Jack?! A Spectre?!

Pft-HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[kumquats]

^ Wow, Jack as a Spectre, now that though scared me.

@spiros9110

Well I hope that my Shepard and Jack, finally have some time alone, because in my canon playthrough they never had sex, too.
The thought just ruins the romance scene for me and what the Jack romance is about.

But I'm not that worried about Jack, like I'm worried about Jacob.
True Jack is probably the most unpopular LI for male Shepard, but I think for the writers her character development must be pure gold, so I'm being my optimistic self. I think Jack will be one of the character with the biggest surprises in ME3.
The character with the "OMG! Did this just happen?" factor.

Well If my hopes get crushed, I still have my second canon playthrough.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Sepewrath wrote...

Well Kaidan and Ashley are very popular either and their already accounted for, maybe Jack will be made into a Spectre too lol.

LOL the next thing we know, Jack is sitting on the Illusive Man's chair smoking a cigar.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 23 août 2011 - 06:49 .

[Epantiras]

KingNothing125 wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

"Hello, dead people!"

The only legitimate choice.

It's catchy, short (very important for thread titles), and it encapsulates Jack totally.

I approve!!!

[nitefyre410]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Sepewrath wrote...

Well Kaidan and Ashley are very popular either and their already accounted for, maybe Jack will be made into a Spectre too lol.

LOL the next thing we know, Jack is sitting on the Illusive Man's chair smoking a cigar.

That would the badass  picture of the year and I would  buy a poster size print and hang it on my wall.

[young fox]

Here's a pretty lengthy interview with Courtenay.

[Zall]

su66otnik wrote...

Here's a pretty lengthy interview with Courtenay.

Thanks for the link!

Retroplayer- Do you have a message for all of your fans on TGL?

Courtenay-I love you! I love you! I think the Jacolytes are great. By the way that word is awesome. I think I’ve been pretty vocal about how $%*king radical my fans are, but if you haven’t heard -- they are creative, awesome fans and I am totally grateful for them. I hope I happen across more of the Jacolytes because they’re some of the most interesting people I’ve ever met. The things they post just floor me -- amazing artistry and imagination in the artwork and stories. You can always find me on Twitter (@courtenaytaylor) and my fan page on Facebook. I look forward to connecting with you guys! Much love!


Epantiras, I think she meant you

Modifié par Zall, 23 août 2011 - 06:31 .

[axl99]

I think she also meant me too

[KingNothing125]

yous two put out some awesome jack stuff, no doubt.

but speaking of which... axl, what's the highest resolution picture of Portal Jack you have? I would love to use it as my desktop background, but i don't want it to be all stretched out and jaggy. I'd kill for a 1920x1080 copy.

[axl99]

Nerd Appropriate's got one handy.

[KingNothing125]

i derped and just now noticed the download link for the 1920x1080 copy on deviantart, with the correctly-colored asari wheatley core, lol.

but thanks!

[Epantiras]

su66otnik wrote...

Here's a pretty lengthy interview with Courtenay.

She really does love her fans, doesn't she? :-)
So, the bit about the "heavy-duty battle games" explains her previous twits about a job that required her to "scream like a banshee" or something. Somehow I got the impression she was talking about a Call of Duty - like first person shooter, not Mass Effect.
And yay for the new game and the iconic character she's going to voice. Sounds like a major role like Mark Meer or Jennifer Hale for Mass Effect.

Modifié par Epantiras, 23 août 2011 - 07:58 .

[KingNothing125]

I wonder who this iconic character is. Sounds like it's an established character in a longstanding franchise.

What if it was Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot? I think that would be pretty sweet.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

KingNothing125 wrote...

I wonder who this iconic character is. Sounds like it's an established character in a longstanding franchise.

What if it was Lara Croft in the Tomb Raider reboot? I think that would be pretty sweet.

I'm assuming she's talking about being a VA for Gears of War 3 and SW: TOR. I'm kinda curious as to who she'll be voicing in TOR, seeing as Juhani was pure badassery.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1057696/

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 23 août 2011 - 09:11 .

[KingNothing125]

maybe... when she says "iconic character" though, i think of a big-time character, like bigger than Jack. i don't know any characters from Gears that are "iconic" except for Fenix, and I don't know any characters from TOR at all.

[Ninjapino]

Courtenay-I think Shepard’s relationship with her was a drop in the bucket of what she needs. I think- and this is just my interpretation of it- that after everything she went through, it was FINALLY a glimmer of hope. She was so hopeless for so long. She was that pit-bull that kept freaking out because she didn’t get anything close to basic human needs and had such a horrible history. That was a moment in her life where she understands that kindness and intimacy ARE possible. That’s what I hope! <laughs>

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Sepewrath]

Yeah I can agree with view of the character, hence its the reason I say she has the best romance subplot in the game.

[outmane]

Any of the Jack fans has romanced her with a Shepard taht ends up keeping the collector base at the end would tell me what is their thought behind it? Im trying out Jack's romance after quite liking her with my FemShep but this Shepard is a bit renegade and would like to keep the base (and hopefully give it to the Council, hes not pro-Cerberus and would be ready to retake the place by force if Cerberus tries to nest in it).

I wasnt expecting to be split between the scenario i chose for my playthrough and my liking of Jack. It would definitly feel wrong to mess things up with her with the way her romance arc builds up. Any insight would be appreciated.

[KingNothing125]

my Jackmance Shep is a sole survivor... Cerberus wiped out his platoon on Akuze. He and Jack share an intense distrust and hatred of Cerberus... no way was he giving the Collector base to the Illusive Man.

[outmane]

thats the same for my main femShep.

I made that second Shep to be my renegade (so i can see what happens in ME3) but after Jack romance im really rethinking keeping that base. Its not the base itself per say, its the working with cerberus part. Jack wouldnt care about keeping the base if Cerberus wasnt involved, no?

I hope the game lets you give that thing to the Council/Alliance or I see no point in keeping it.