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[ModroTheAnnihilator]

DCarter wrote...

Jack sucks. I wouldn't mind her if she was the super powered biotic badass she's hyped up to be and not just a loud mouth with teenage angst.

Well, story-wise, Jack is a super-powered biotic. Gameplay-wise, not as much. And for the record, anyone, ANYONE who lived a life of neglect, killing, and torture will have freaking anger issues. Just because Jack has a bad attitude and anger issues, it doesn't mean that she's a bad character or her story sucks. And if you thought her story sucked, you wouldn't be posting here in the first place.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:10 .

[SlottsMachine]

 If people are expecting some major confrontation between characters, I think you'll be disappointed. This isn't high school, all characters are adults, also most of them are very professional because of there training etc. Grunt and Jack are the only loose cannons, and Shepard is Grunt's battlemaster, so I'm sure that will keep him in line, relatively speaking. Jack is physically and expressively threatening, but from what we've have seen so far it seems that Jack would rather scare someone than hurt them.  

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

 If people are expecting some major confrontation between characters, I think you'll be disappointed. This isn't high school, all characters are adults, also most of them are very professional because of there training etc. Grunt and Jack are the only loose cannons, and Shepard is Grunt's battlemaster, so I'm sure that will keep him in line, relatively speaking. Jack is physically and expressively threatening, but from what we've have seen so far it seems that Jack would rather scare someone than hurt them.  

Does that apply to Miranda? With Cerberus forces revealed to be indoctrinated and Miranda being unlikely to ever admit to Jack that the guys she sided with are the bad guys, I would think that tensions between the two would dramatically escalate.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:14 .

[ChaplainTappman]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Does that apply to Miranda? With Cerberus forces revealed to be indoctrinated and Miranda being unlikely to ever admit to Jack that the guys she sided with are the bad guys, I would think that tensions between the two would dramatically escalate.

They both talk a mean game, but they're both loyal to Shepard. Neither would be willing to admit it, but I don't see them in conflict because Shepard doesn't want them fighting.

[flemm]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Does that apply to Miranda? With Cerberus forces revealed to be indoctrinated and Miranda being unlikely to ever admit to Jack that the guys she sided with are the bad guys, I would think that tensions between the two would dramatically escalate.

You might be surprised where both characters end up in ME3. Miranda could very well end up at war with Cerberus, and Jack may have put a lot of her angst behind her.

I'd like to see some sort of scene between them, though, if they both survived the suicide mission.

Modifié par flemm, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:20 .

[Collider]

Of course Miranda is going to be up against Cerberus. She resigns if you destroy the base, approves of that action, and expresses disapproval or weariness if you do keep the base.

[flemm]

Collider wrote...

Of course Miranda is going to be up against Cerberus. She resigns if you destroy the base, approves of that action, and expresses disapproval or weariness if you do keep the base.

I agree it's likely, yes. With both characters having changed quite a bit, their reunion might be rather different from what their interactions in ME2 suggest.

Modifié par flemm, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:24 .

[Labrev]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

DCarter wrote...

Jack sucks. I wouldn't mind her if she was the super powered biotic badass she's hyped up to be and not just a loud mouth with teenage angst.

Well, story-wise, Jack is a super-powered biotic. Gameplay-wise, not as much. And for the record, anyone, ANYONE who lived a life of neglect, killing, and torture will have freaking anger issues. Just because Jack has a bad attitude and anger issues, it doesn't mean that she's a bad character or her story sucks. And if you thought her story sucked, you wouldn't be posting here in the first place.

Jack is actually my favorite gameplay squadmate as well. She's not overly powerful but tactically I found her very valuable. Pull Field is very useful, even on a protected enemy, and Jack is one of only two squaddies with reduced biotic recharge time. Shockwave, too. Even an armored krogan needs a couple seconds to recover when hit by one.

I've kept her on the Evi rather than the Geth Plasma Cannon Shotgun on my current run and she's still very reliable for me. I just have to make sure she's wielding a pistol when not in close-range.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Seeing as we're talking about a game with branching storylines, I think every scenario posted above is likely to be included in the game. Miranda could kill Jack, Jack could kill Miranda, both may live but still be pissed off at each other, or both may reconcile and kick Cerberus ass.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:30 .

[flemm]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Seeing as we're talking about a game with branching storylines, I think every scenario posted above is likely to be included in the game. Miranda may kill Jack, Jack may kill Miranda, both may live but still be pissed off at each other, or both may reconcile.

Certainly possible in some form or another.

[Collider]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Seeing as we're talking about a game with branching storylines, I think every scenario posted above is likely to be included in the game. Miranda may kill Jack, Jack may kill Miranda, both may live but still be pissed off at each other, or both may reconcile.

I have doubts. Would they really give so much attention to that?
And I'd rather they not reconcile - there is far too much difference between them. It sounds extremely saccharine that they would make up.

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Collider wrote...

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

Seeing as we're talking about a game with branching storylines, I think every scenario posted above is likely to be included in the game. Miranda may kill Jack, Jack may kill Miranda, both may live but still be pissed off at each other, or both may reconcile.

I have doubts. Would they really give so much attention to that?
And I'd rather they not reconcile - there is far too much difference between them. It sounds extremely saccharine that they would make up.

I'm pretty sure BioWare can think of a way for both of them to reconcile somewhat and still be b*tches toward each other.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:33 .

[Collider]

I'm pretty sure BioWare can think of a way for both of them to reconcile somewhat and still be b*tches toward each other.

That may be even worse. But Bioware will do whatever they want to.

[flemm]

ModroTheAnnihilator wrote...

I'm pretty sure BioWare can think of a way for both of them to reconcile somewhat and still be b*tches toward each other.

Yeah, I could see it working somewhat along those lines. There are some underlying similarities between the characters that could lead to a sort of mutual understanding without them ever being especially friendly. Also there is the bigger threat to worry about.

Modifié par flemm, 11 septembre 2011 - 07:36 .

[jeweledleah]

the impression I personally got from Jack is that when it comes to relationships, she will wall up and leave rather then get into arguments. She's also more likely to blame Shepard I think if faced with confrontation with Shepard's former lover. I can see her just going - f you Shepard, you are just like the rest. As for Ash? she might get verbal, especially if Shepard leads her on, but in the end, she has far too much pride to get into actual squabbles.

unlike confrontation with Miranda, that Jack had in ME2 - Ash is not Cerberus, heck Ash hates Cerberus (oh look, another thing they have in comon) Ash doesn't try to make excuses and she's pretty upfront and blunt, I can see Jack respect her.

honestly - the image I'm getting from any possible confrontation is Shepard down on his ass, rubbing blood from his nose, while Ash and Jack stride away , companionably chatting about killing methods and poetry.

[KingNothing125]

I highly doubt we'll see (any) two chicks or two dudes fighting over Shepard in ME3. That seems quite juvenile. A more likely scenario, in my opinion, is both options walking out on you, and you having to choose which one to reconcile with after-the-fact.

[AdmiralCheez]

jeweledleah wrote...

honestly - the image I'm getting from any possible confrontation is Shepard down on his ass, rubbing blood from his nose, while Ash and Jack stride away , companionably chatting about killing methods and poetry.

Yep.  That is exactly what I pictured.

[KingNothing125]

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I don't know if I'd expect them to be fighting over Shepard in the sense that they'd be competing for his affection but given the confusing nature of the relationship with the Virmire survivor and the two timing nature of a Shepard that reignited a romance with Liara, I'd expect some sort of hostility between two love interests while they confront Shepard.

[Collider]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

honestly - the image I'm getting from any possible confrontation is Shepard down on his ass, rubbing blood from his nose, while Ash and Jack stride away , companionably chatting about killing methods and poetry.

Yep.  That is exactly what I pictured.

Ugh. That's nearly as bad as the proposed catfights.

[AdmiralCheez]

Collider wrote...

Ugh. That's nearly as bad as the proposed catfights.

Possibly.

But my DudeShep's a moron.

[jeweledleah]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Collider wrote...

Ugh. That's nearly as bad as the proposed catfights.

Possibly.

But my DudeShep's a moron.

pretty much. well my Jack Shepard is neither a moron, nor does he have a romance in ME1, but....  with Shepard who might try to string both Ash and Jeck along and do the: "can't I have to both /trollface" shtick again?  Ash would just snort in disgust, but Jack?  I could see her throwing a punch, before telling him to go where the sun don't shine.

[Collider]

jeweledleah wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Collider wrote...

Ugh. That's nearly as bad as the proposed catfights.

Possibly.

But my DudeShep's a moron.

pretty much. well my Jack Shepard is neither a moron, nor does he have a romance in ME1, but....  with Shepard who might try to string both Ash and Jeck along and do the: "can't I have to both /trollface" shtick again?  Ash would just snort in disgust, but Jack?  I could see her throwing a punch, before telling him to go where the sun don't shine.

I'd be fine with them being disgusted about Shepard suggesting having both (or leading Ashley on before the "confrontation" which would basically be cheating on the ME2 LI). But I don't really like the idea some have that the ME2 LI leaves simply because Shepard had a previous relationship. Although now I see that's (probably) not what you were referring to.

Jack herself has surely had plenty of partners. It wouldn't be doing justice to her character if she runs off considering how many dead end relationships or entanglements she's already had.

[Cespar]

yea all the pain she had, i dont know but could this relate to that girl and her boyfriend screwin around with jack, the couple she ran with. But just Ash and Shepard, i think jack would think along them lines, another screwing with her

[ModroTheAnnihilator]

Bonte15 wrote...

yea all the pain she had, i dont know but could this relate to that girl and her boyfriend screwin around with jack, the couple she ran with. But just Ash and Shepard, i think jack would think along them lines, another screwing with her

So what you're saying is, Jack may try to kill both Shepard and whoever he romanced in ME1? Certainly possible. In that event though, Jack WILL be killed. Brutally.

Modifié par ModroTheAnnihilator, 12 septembre 2011 - 10:23 .