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[Cespar]

it could be or she will just leave and not even bother. Well first i need to think. Jack has change which mean she could handle it better than in her past events

[SpaceinMind]

The way I see it Isaac Shepard did not cheat on Ash with Jack, he moved on. Every relationship can't be expected to last forever. I respect Isaac, he is my canon shep and the one I care about the most. He loved Ashley but he died for two years and it seemed they had moved on. He didn't expect her to wait for him, and he had already fallen for Jack. I fully intend to stay with Jack because he truly loves her as do I.
I just hope there isn't some huge conflict that leads Jack to think she was just another notch on my bedpost.

[SlottsMachine]

Jack perceived Manara and the boyfriend as being a threat to her personally, though. Sure she could have fled, unless she needed the money/supplies/whatever for her own survival.

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 11 septembre 2011 - 09:58 .

[SlottsMachine]

That could be the consequences that have been mentioned in regards to the LI's, if you cheated it becomes canon that you have moved on, so no going back. Personally I'd prefer it that way, because if they try to get complicated with this LI business, it will probably be a disaster.

[spirosz]

Depends on how Bioware will define the "cheating" part. In some cases, people saw the Horizon incident as both individuals moving on with their life. I believe Bioware will have different dialogues branching towards different outcomes, either confirming that both individuals moved on or as in a different case, choosing one over the other because you're Shepard is still in love with both.

Edit: Or getting dumped.

[punchbag]

It's nice to see the thread getting back into deeper conversations. I don't have time to really contribute right now, but I just wanted to say this is what keeps Jack threads alive.

[Sepewrath]

Bonte15 wrote...

Sepewrath wrote...
Well Jack is hesitant to trust anyone and of course authority and power conglomerates like the Alliance, are probably on top of the do not trust list.

 but the alliance view cerberus as the enemies, and i think jack would also like that, and you must remember that jack has change so u have to focus on a new jack instead of the old one who distrusted

I doubt Jack has changed that drastically where her paranoia is gone. Also while the Alliance may look at Cerberus as enemies, that doesn't change the fact that their an organization that also uses people for their own gain and like they are doing with Shepard at the start of ME3, they wont hesitate to throw someone away. In her eyes, they would be no different than Cerberus and to an extent its true, they just keep the rule book a little closer than Cerberus does. That enemy of my enemy thing isn't as all encompassing as some people like to think. In many cases the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy

[ChaplainTappman]

I think the biggest thing for Jack in ME3 will be her trust in Shepard, regardless of whether or not you romanced her in ME2. As long as you earned her loyalty, you showed that there was someone out there who wasn't just looking to use her. I get the impression that she'll fight tooth and nail for Shepard. Shepard trusted her, helped her, and had faith in her. I imagine she'll be driven to earn that faith.

[Sepewrath]

I could agree with that, Shepard was able to establish a relationship with her, that showed her that not everyone is out to just take advantage of her. I don't know so much about trying to earn that faith, I mean she went on a suicide mission with them already. I would say, she simply wants to continue that relationship, be around the first real friend she has ever had.Who doesn't enjoy the company of their friends, I think someone would especially enjoy it if was a new sensation for them.

[spirosz]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

I think the biggest thing for Jack in ME3 will be her trust in Shepard, regardless of whether or not you romanced her in ME2. As long as you earned her loyalty, you showed that there was someone out there who wasn't just looking to use her. I get the impression that she'll fight tooth and nail for Shepard. Shepard trusted her, helped her, and had faith in her. I imagine she'll be driven to earn that faith.

Yeah, I believe her role will be different depending on what happens in ME2, but it'll still be relevant towards either Cerberus and the Reapers for ME3.  I see her having a bigger role for my Shepard because of being romanced (more time on the Normandy, or however the permance works), but if she isn't romanced and you do do her LM, I can still see her being there in some form for Shepard because of realizing that he isn't going to use her just for her abilities.  

 

Modifié par spiros9110, 12 septembre 2011 - 12:52 .

[spirosz]

Sepewrath wrote...

I could agree with that, Shepard was able to establish a relationship with her, that showed her that not everyone is out to just take advantage of her. I don't know so much about trying to earn that faith, I mean she went on a suicide mission with them already. I would say, she simply wants to continue that relationship, be around the first real friend she has ever had.Who doesn't enjoy the company of their friends, I think someone would especially enjoy it if was a new sensation for them.

I'm hoping Bioware really develops the friendship aspect with her too because her humour and sarcasm towards Shepard is refreshing to say the least and as you said, who doesn't enjoy the company of friends. 

[Cespar]

Sepewrath wrote...

Bonte15 wrote...

Sepewrath wrote...
Well Jack is hesitant to trust anyone and of course authority and power conglomerates like the Alliance, are probably on top of the do not trust list.

 but the alliance view cerberus as the enemies, and i think jack would also like that, and you must remember that jack has change so u have to focus on a new jack instead of the old one who distrusted

I doubt Jack has changed that drastically where her paranoia is gone. Also while the Alliance may look at Cerberus as enemies, that doesn't change the fact that their an organization that also uses people for their own gain and like they are doing with Shepard at the start of ME3, they wont hesitate to throw someone away. In her eyes, they would be no different than Cerberus and to an extent its true, they just keep the rule book a little closer than Cerberus does. That enemy of my enemy thing isn't as all encompassing as some people like to think. In many cases the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy

but jack has a reason to hate cerberus unlike the alliance which she probably knows nothing about and still trying to figure out when alliance want to use ppl for their own good, i understand cerberus using people for their good maybe it because i always think of alliance as the good guys since they mind other species while cerberus really one want humans. Jack knows that Shepard come from the alliance and he probably the first one she ever met which give her a good picture for the rest of the alliances.

[Dr. Doctor]

I sort of see Jack being indifferent to the Alliance, after being out in the Terminus for so long and given her relationship with authorities in general there's not going to be much of a difference between Cerberus and the Alliance.

Shepard: It's nice to see the Normandy without Cerberus marking for a change.

Jack: You changed them out for Alliance ones, nothing to celebrate there.

Shepard: The Alliance isn't Cerberus though.

Jack: They're still a bunch of ****heads who figure that they can tell people what to do because they know better.

Shepard: Does this make me a ****head?

Jack: (chuckles)  Maybe. If so at least you're a cute one.

[Cespar]

Dr. Doctor wrote...

I sort of see Jack being indifferent to the Alliance, after being out in the Terminus for so long and given her relationship with authorities in general there's not going to be much of a difference between Cerberus and the Alliance.

Shepard: It's nice to see the Normandy without Cerberus marking for a change.

Jack: You changed them out for Alliance ones, nothing to celebrate there.

Shepard: The Alliance isn't Cerberus though.

Jack: They're still a bunch of ****heads who figure that they can tell people what to do because they know better.

Shepard: Does this make me a ****head?

Jack: (chuckles)  Maybe. If so at least you're a cute one.

this is good specially last part.

[Sepewrath]

Bonte15 wrote...
but jack has a reason to hate cerberus unlike the alliance which she probably knows nothing about and still trying to figure out when alliance want to use ppl for their own good, i understand cerberus using people for their good maybe it because i always think of alliance as the good guys since they mind other species while cerberus really one want humans. Jack knows that Shepard come from the alliance and he probably the first one she ever met which give her a good picture for the rest of the alliances.

I didn't say she would hate the Alliance, she would just be slow to trust them. And while you make look at the Alliance as good guys, they have a lot of dirty laundry themselves. Don't forget, Cerberus had a lot of ties to Cerberus because there was a bunch of Cerberus operatives in the Alliance and they had influence. I don't see her thinking any more highly of Cerberus than she does anyone else--and she doesn't think very highly of anyone else.

[SlottsMachine]

I agree completely Sepewrath. Jack isn't going to be cool with any organization that tries to dictate there rules or there dominion on others, regardless of whether the masses believe there role to be for the greater good.

[MACharlie1]

Bonte15 wrote...

Sepewrath wrote...

Bonte15 wrote...

Sepewrath wrote...
Well Jack is hesitant to trust anyone and of course authority and power conglomerates like the Alliance, are probably on top of the do not trust list.

 but the alliance view cerberus as the enemies, and i think jack would also like that, and you must remember that jack has change so u have to focus on a new jack instead of the old one who distrusted

I doubt Jack has changed that drastically where her paranoia is gone. Also while the Alliance may look at Cerberus as enemies, that doesn't change the fact that their an organization that also uses people for their own gain and like they are doing with Shepard at the start of ME3, they wont hesitate to throw someone away. In her eyes, they would be no different than Cerberus and to an extent its true, they just keep the rule book a little closer than Cerberus does. That enemy of my enemy thing isn't as all encompassing as some people like to think. In many cases the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy

but jack has a reason to hate cerberus unlike the alliance which she probably knows nothing about and still trying to figure out when alliance want to use ppl for their own good, i understand cerberus using people for their good maybe it because i always think of alliance as the good guys since they mind other species while cerberus really one want humans. Jack knows that Shepard come from the alliance and he probably the first one she ever met which give her a good picture for the rest of the alliances.

Actually. Jack has a pretty damn good reason to hate the Alliance: she was in the Teltin facility when Cerberus was still an ALLIANCE based program. Cerberus didn't go rogue until a short time before the events of ME1. It was the Alliance as a whole that started the whole scheme to develop stronger biotics. Just thought I'd chime in on that. 

[JamieCOTC]

"Hello Dead people!" Ha! Jack has some of the best "combat lines" in the game. Love it. Love her.

[Cespar]

Jack thought highly of her ex-boyfriend that died and it took time but she did of shepard also, and i guess ur right about that cerberus thing with the alliance. i dont know if the cults were a organization but she was with them which was a group people that i know she was probably fond of since she join them. but then again she did leave them and kept the haircut and she been with boys and girls i wonder if she trust them. But Since they said Jack is much softer in me3 we can only wait to see, i thinking of that jack that come crying in shepard arms, that probably will be the new jack

[Sepewrath]

I hope not, crying never helps anyone. And the ending of all those stories of Jack with these people, outside of that one guy, shows that she did not trust them. I am curious about their definition of "Softer" if that just means she doesn't oddly have the walls back up around Shepard, that's fine, it makes perfect sense. If she completely loses that abrasive personality, then that would make softer mean "completely different character"

[Cespar]

You must remember that Shepard seen to change people accourding to what liara say about miranda been a less of a cold person, she might be a different character in me3 if u romance her, that would be part of the character development. I know this is not a good example but me1 liara change from me2 liara. I would be glad happy that jack change for the better cause she was only act like because how she always been screwed over in her life and shepard finally walk in and change her dont u think that she deserve a lil happiness and dont always walk around mad at the world and this where jack is more mature walks in

[Sepewrath]

People throw around the word mature way too much. And she can be happy, without her personality being drastically changed. She doesn't have to be angry at the world, but her abrasive personality, sailor mouth and physical/mental conditioning should not be gone, because of Shepard's power of heart.

[Dr. Doctor]

I sort of get the feeling that Jack's "softer" personality is going to involve her being a little calmer around the crew. Think more Rose of Sharon Cassidy (also voiced by Courtany Taylor) from New Vegas than the Jack we met on Purgatory.

[Cespar]

well the romance scene says different, and yea i think she will be calmer and not angry. well lol they did more mature look not attitude. and really? so if i walk around the world all mad and cursing at everybody i see, would they think that i mad or happy? hmmm and shepard heart change her well paragon

[Ninjapino]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with my Shepard. He was originally closest with Ash, but then she died on Virmire. He ended up romancing Liara in the end. Then he starts something serious with Jack. In the end, Liara seemed to come to terms with the fact that he was with Jack now, but we'll see.

I do love the fact that Liara will talk with you about your current love and will actually be supportive of you. The fact that different characters will react different to the same situation says wonders about the writing in the game.