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[CDRSkyShepard]

@TurianFan:
"Just a pilot?" As a real pilot I'm not sure if I should be insulted or not. o.O

@ Phantom: LMAO...Legion. XD

Edit: WOAH! Top of the page! Someone get a picture up here! I am inept at the picture posting...

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 22 août 2011 - 04:15 .

[viggorrah]

PhantomGinger wrote...

Wait...*sees bullet point*

Indoctrination seem to play a role in ME3, possibly including party members.

...#@$%!!! If they indocrinate Joker, I swear to GOD I'll tear up a pillow and eat its inards. <_<

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought of this. Er wait, or is that a bad thing that an indoctrinated Joker is the first thing to come to mind?

First case of cybernetic upgrades and indoctrination gave us this lovely abomination:



Reaper-controlled Joker? I'll pass... for the love of God, I'll pass! 

Sorry Sky, wrong type of picture huh? >_>

Modifié par viggorrah, 22 août 2011 - 05:08 .

[zukuto]

 I don't think that I could ever take out one of my teammates if they became indoctrinated 

If Joker ever became indoctrinated, I would strap him to a chair and tell EDI to make sure that he stayed there while I went and hunted down every freakin' Reaper in the galaxy 

[SpaceinMind]

 
There's no such thing as 'just a pilot' 

[CDRSkyShepard]

Woah...that indoctrination of party members bit made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

*Vision in my head*
Shepard: Liara, Garrus, move up!
Liara: *Gun clicks* I'm sorry, Shepard...
Shepard: Crap.

Haha no, not quite the picture I was envisioning, but good job! *Thumbs up*

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 22 août 2011 - 05:11 .

[HurricaneGinger]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

@TurianFan:
"Just a pilot?" As a real pilot I'm not sure if I should be insulted or not. o.O

@ Phantom: LMAO...Legion. XD

Edit: WOAH! Top of the page! Someone get a picture up here! I am inept at the picture posting...

Oh, ouch, be insulted! TurianFan is pretty much saying that your job is trivial - and as a person who has traveled a lot by plane...I put my life in a pilot's hands each time.

And if you are a pilot for the army, I salute you, my good friend.

legionthegeth wrote...

I actually could see a romance being quite...........emotional to put it best.

I
mean if it were to happen I could see them having where Legion suddenly
starts to begin feeling these strange things (emotions to us) whenever
he is around Shepard, because of this he trys constantly to put together
information as to why he feels this yet can't find a conclusion, then
in a talk with Shepard he ask what these strange feelings are.

Whoa way off tpoic now lets get back to the main point.

The scenario would be interesting, to be honest...

Legion: Shepard-Commander. We have a question.
Shepard: Yes, Legion?
Legion: What are the symptoms of the emotion love?
Shepard: Er...symptoms? ...Nevermind. I suppose one "symptom" is having butterflies in your stomach.
Legion: *plates on head quirk in confusion* Elaborate.
Shepard: Um...
Legion: Does one actually have butterflies in their digestive track when in love? How does an organic ingest butterflies without digesting them? Must one ingest butterflies to be in love? What is a substitute if butterflies are not available?
Shepard: No no no no no. *pinches bridge of nose* I mean...how do I put this? It's like a power surge.
Legion: Power surges typically involve a brief shut down of systems.
Shepard: ...Yep, you've got it.

zukuto wrote...

 I don't think that I could ever take out one of my teammates if they became indoctrinated [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/crying.png[/smilie]

If
Joker ever became indoctrinated, I would strap him to a chair and tell
EDI to make sure that he stayed there while I went and hunted down every
freakin' Reaper in the galaxy [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie]

Oh, definitely! By the end of the game, the holding cells will be filled with our crew members, and only the Reaper's destruction will remove the indoctrination! BUT, you will have to face Harbringer alone as a result.

@viggorah: Thank-you for putting that vision in my head. I will go to sleep at night and dream of a cybernetic Joker attacking me.

DAMN YOU TIM.

If TIM did indeed use Reaper tech to rebuild Shepard and give Joker his implants, we are in serious trouble. Oh...and if the tech was also put into rebuilding Garrus's face...

#@&%!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 22 août 2011 - 05:55 .

[SpaceinMind]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Woah...that indoctrination of party members bit made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

*Vision in my head*
Shepard: Liara, Garrus, move up!
Liara: *Gun clicks* I'm sorry, Shepard...
Shepard: Crap.

Haha no, not quite the picture I was envisioning, but good job! *Thumbs up*

Something like that would be very emotional, especially if it's unavoidable. 
I can also imagine something like Fai Dan and Saren when they fought the indoctrinaiton to kill thmeselves.
I'm not sure what's worse, killing one of your indoctrinated squaddies, or watching them kill themselves in attempts to save you.

[Omega Torsk]

PhantomGinger wrote...

*sees that Conrad's back*

Oh, Conrad...GO BACK TO YOUR WIFE.

*checks "Tell Conrad to buzz off...again" off her list*

Won't really be a problem for my mainshep. He pretty much told him "Good-bye, Conrad" and then Conrad, in his nuttiness, gave him the whole "Wait, I can do other stuff good, too! I'll show you!" and then ran off only to get cut up in a power turbine after falling off a bus... geez, I really feel bad for this dude's wife (if she even exists, that is). Maybe if ME3 gives me the option, I'll set up a fund in Conrad's name and give her most of the revenue.

However, I think I'll be nice to him on my Joker-saved Femshep.

PhantomGinger wrote...

legionthegeth wrote...

Also, this guys is curious as to
how many of you people will cry in sorrow if Joker sacrifices himself to
kill a reaper or save everyone at some point in the game.

I won't cry.
I'll BAWL like a baby denied her ice cream.

Wait...*sees bullet point*

Indoctrination seem to play a role in ME3, possibly including party members.

...#@$%!!! If they indocrinate Joker, I swear to GOD I'll tear up a pillow and eat its inards. <_<

POSSIBLY including party members!?!? Oh, Bioware, why do you torture us so? If you even dare think of touching Ashley with indoctrination, I'll... I'll...
And Joker? No... not Joker... just not Joker...
In answer to legionthegeth's question, I won't cry... but if we're denied a Jokermance or if any of the above indoctrinations happen, I will do this.

But in my honest and humble opinion, I'm thinking the indoctrinated squadmate might be Miranda. Hey, hey, not predicting anything here, I'm just saying that's where the wind seems to be blowing right now (why else would Bioware be so tight-lipped about her unless something they absolutely don't want us to know happens to her?)

Anyway, it's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around... *Runs and hides to avoid the wrath of the powerful Mirandites*

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 22 août 2011 - 07:16 .

[HurricaneGinger]

Omega Torsk wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

legionthegeth wrote...

Also, this guys is curious as to how many of you people will cry in sorrow if Joker sacrifices himself to kill a reaper or save everyone at some point in the game.

I won't cry.
I'll BAWL like a baby denied her ice cream.

Wait...*sees bullet point*

Indoctrination seem to play a role in ME3, possibly including party members.

...#@$%!!! If they indocrinate Joker, I swear to GOD I'll tear up a pillow and eat its inards. <_<

POSSIBLY including party members!?!? Oh, Bioware, why do you torture us so? If you even dare think of touching Ashley with indoctrination, I'll... I'll... And Joker? No... not Joker... just not Joker... In answer to legionthegeth's question, I won't cry... but if we're denied a Jokermance or if any of the above indoctrinations happen, I will do this.

But in my honest and humble opinion, I'm thinking the indoctrinated squadmate might be Miranda. Hey, hey, not predicting anything here, I'm just saying that's where the wind seems to be blowing right now (why else would Bioware be so tight-lipped about her unless something they absolutely don't want us to know happens to her?)

Anyway, it's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around... *Runs and hides to avoid the wrath of the powerful Mirandites*

Miranda indoctrinated? Finally, I'll have a reason to shoot her!

Indoctrinated Cerberus officials sounds plausible. Especially with TIM on  board...come on...the dude already has those freaky eyes thanks to some  Reaper tech - in my opinion, the dude is already gone. Then he'll force  others into the indoctrination. That already sounds weak typing it down. All I know is, Cerberus is screwed up.

And with all the Reaper tech we will be coming in contact with,  indoctrinated crew mates seems inevitable. I'm just afraid of the tech  Cerberus used to rebuild Shepard and get Joker his upgrades...if it's Reaper stuff, we're screwed.

But you know, I doubt Joker would ever willingly turn against Shepard.  Those two are just - trying to avoid a cliche here - two stars in a  constellation! Together, they make up a bigger picture.

Okay, that was a bit corny and doesn't make sense once I think about it, but I'll think of something!

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 22 août 2011 - 11:58 .

[Omega Torsk]

^^

I agree. I've somewhat accepted that indoctrination of crew may be inevitable... just please have it not be Ashley... anybody but her! And Joker... like you said, two stars in a constellation! It would just burn to lose him whether he's romanceable or not. But I'm gonna try to remain positive with a dash of realism on all aspects.

But I'm not kidding about the Courage scream happening.

Bioware Employee: Oh, great... the sun just broke. I warned you this would happen if we indoctrinated Ash and denied the players a Jokermance!

[oligo]

Omega Torsk wrote...

*snippy snip*

But in my honest and humble opinion, I'm thinking the indoctrinated squadmate might be Miranda. Hey, hey, not predicting anything here, I'm just saying that's where the wind seems to be blowing right now (why else would Bioware be so tight-lipped about her unless something they absolutely don't want us to know happens to her?)

Anyway, it's just my opinion, no need to go spreading it around... *Runs and hides to avoid the wrath of the powerful Mirandites*

I see what you did there

That could be, true, yeah.  I suppose that would account for her "unfinished business" with Shepard, maybe?

[RhiPanda]

I agree with he possibility of it being Miranda who is indoctrinated but if they made it Joker I would cry so much D=. Or maybe it isn't a fixed squadmate and it changes based on decisions?

[HurricaneGinger]

RhiPanda wrote...

I agree with he possibility of it being Miranda who is indoctrinated but if they made it Joker I would cry so much D=. Or maybe it isn't a fixed squadmate and it changes based on decisions?

Hmm, it could depend on how often you take a squadmate with you. The more you're around Reaper tech, the more likely you are to succumb to it. But in brief encounters, chances slim down - and maybe you build up an immunity to it? Shepard could pull a Harry Potter and block the signal from his/her brain given enough practice.

The thought of putting indoctrinated squadmates in holding cells amuses me for some odd reason. Of course, we'd have to enforce the walls with extra soft pillows so...you know...no one rams their head against the glass.

Because I'm sure the broken glass comes out of Shepard's pay. And the squadmate might not be happy later...with the concussion and all.

[Patchwork]

Interesting titbit about Joker liking the changes to the Normandy SR2.5.

Normandy will be the SR-2 with an Alliance paint and some redesigned interiors. Joker will apparently be happy with it. from the Giant Bomb Summary

I've always had a little suspicion that the reason we don't get to discuss his joining Cerberus is that there was more to it. He could be a double agent!

[carilynn46]

If there is no jokermance with my shepard and for some odd un canny reason he ends up with EDI I am going to cry.... like not awe that's so cute cry like face down in my pillow screaming and flooding it with WHY OH WHY! tears!

[legionthegeth]

I am starting to wonder if I have become the only guy posting in here.

I am also amazed I am not being creeped out by how hardcore the shoker fans are.

Modifié par legionthegeth, 22 août 2011 - 01:57 .

[RhiPanda]

Ooh question, what would people want Shepards and Jokers romance to end like?
Like not the romance itself ending I eman the end of the game >.< If that makes sense =S

[oligo]

RhiPanda wrote...

Ooh question, what would people want Shepards and Jokers romance to end like?
Like not the romance itself ending I eman the end of the game >.< If that makes sense =S

Yeah, I get what you mean, but I'm not sure.

As long as it's not the 'formulaic romp before the suicide mission' I'll be happy.
Oh, and as long as there are no 'self-sacrifice to end reaper threat' moments either - that will make me sad.

Modifié par cicimae, 22 août 2011 - 02:48 .

[Ankah22]

Guys, guys calm down.... Joker is a symbol! He won't die, be indoctrinated or romanced... it's like shagging a Normandy itself! He is the soul of the undead ship! See? They couldn't kill Normandy TWICE!

[SilentK]

Hmmm... I wouldn't be opposed to one possible ending with my FemShep sacrificing herself to save the galaxy. I would sit there and go *snifffle* in front of my computer. But only with one of the, tops. As long as I have some influence it will be ok, there must be some way for me to get a somewhat happy ending for my Shepards. I'm perfectly willing to work like a dog for it =)

Oki, I'm with you guys. Let's just keep hoping that there will be a Joker-Shepard-romance, or at least a Joker-human-romance. But I swear my FemShep will shine with a green glow of jealousy if she can't get at him and he goes for someone else. But still that's better than the computer concept. Then EDI is getting shackled again.... =)


And jupp, hope there is a different overall romance arc than sexytime right before big-boss. We have done that now, twice. Let's see something new.

Edit:  we need a little more Joker on this page   =)

Modifié par SilentK, 22 août 2011 - 05:21 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

legionthegeth wrote...

I am starting to wonder if I have become the only guy posting in here.

I am also amazed I am not being creeped out by how hardcore the shoker fans are.

We had a few guys who were regulars in the ME2 Joker forum, and I know they've posted here before...but they're still hiding. Busy, I suspect. As for the amazed you're not being creeped out part, that's perfectly normal. We Shokerites tend to have that effect on people. Glad you can join us.

I want the romance to be a bit more all-encompassing, like SilentK says...I'd rather have it play a bigger role in the smaller cutscenes, not have it be a few large conversation cutscenes then a culminating romance cutscene. I'd rather see it seep its way into the main story a bit more. That includes previous romances, too, and other romancable characters. This is part of who Shep is, and it should be given important attention.

I suspect that if anyone is least likely to become indoctrinated, it's Joker. He'll probably do like he's done in the past and  stick to the ship, because even with his upgrades he isn't sure-footed enough for combat. Perhaps this is BioWare's way of forcing us to switch up our squad more often, because I'd think that the more we bring some of them along, the more likely it would be that they'd become indoctrinated. I don't know, that's just a guess on my part. Thoughts?

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 22 août 2011 - 04:12 .

[Omega Torsk]

legionthegeth wrote...

I am starting to wonder if I have become the only guy posting in here.

I am also amazed I am not being creeped out by how hardcore the shoker fans are.

I am a man, good sir! Been a regular since the first page. I wasn't able to be a part of the old Joker fan thread since I discovered Mass Effect back in January and was a lurker until April. Haven't been creeped out since I'm one of the more quixotic residents! Muahaha!
Please say you'll stay! Lol

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I suspect that if anyone is least likely to become indoctrinated, it's Joker. He'll probably do like he's done in the past and  stick to the ship, because even with his upgrades he isn't sure-footed enough for combat. Perhaps this is BioWare's way of forcing us to switch up our squad more often, because I'd think that the more we bring some of them along, the more likely it would be that they'd become indoctrinated. I don't know, that's just a guess on my part. Thoughts?

In the words of Thane, that thought haunts me more than any other. Hmm, if that's the case, Shepard has just as much a chance to get indoctrinated. Don't get me puzzling again, you know what happens when I start puzzling!!!

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 22 août 2011 - 06:40 .

[Eliantariel]

As thrilling as it may be, I don't really want an indoctrinated team member - at least we should have the possibility to influence who be affected.

If someone from the team will be indoctrinated I am really wondering why Shepard would be not affected - Shepard is part of every mission squad more than every other team member.

I hope Joker is protected against evil writing plots due to his awesomeness

From all the different endings that are possible I hope there is a happy ending where Shepard and his/her LI is alive - and in any case Joker (even if he is not a LI) because I cannot stand to see him die. If the only possibility to save him is to start a romance with him than he will become the LI for all my Shepards

Anyway, have some Joker:

[CDRSkyShepard]

I'm not discounting the possibility that you as Shepard could also get indoctrinated, followed shortly by a "Critical Mission Failure" screen if you happen to let your guard down. But, also remember that Shepard has the Cipher, which I think could be used as a plot device to help him/her be more anti-Indoctrination. And no one in the galaxy understands the Reapers better than Shepard, so it's possible that Shepard could be more able to recognize the effects in time to fight them.

I'm pretty sure the devs will give us the opportunity to recognize that our team members are becoming indoctrinated before it takes hold, it would just require us to be vigilant. I'm also glad that they're not making all the paragon decisions the right ones, you'll actually have to think and perhaps ****** people off in order to get everything to line up correctly. I just hope they don't make charm/intimidate conversation options dependent on your paragon/renegade score because that would make life difficult if you have to make some renegade and some paragon decisions. I also hope that Joker has tons of plot armor. ;D

[HurricaneGinger]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'm not discounting the possibility that you as Shepard could also get indoctrinated, followed shortly by a "Critical Mission Failure" screen if you happen to let your guard down. But, also remember that Shepard has the Cipher, which I think could be used as a plot device to help him/her be more anti-Indoctrination. And no one in the galaxy understands the Reapers better than Shepard, so it's possible that Shepard could be more able to recognize the effects in time to fight them.

I'm pretty sure the devs will give us the opportunity to recognize that our team members are becoming indoctrinated before it takes hold, it would just require us to be vigilant. I'm also glad that they're not making all the paragon decisions the right ones, you'll actually have to think and perhaps ****** people off in order to get everything to line up correctly. I just hope they don't make charm/intimidate conversation options dependent on your paragon/renegade score because that would make life difficult if you have to make some renegade and some paragon decisions. I also hope that Joker has tons of plot armor. ;D

Oh, definitely. Surprisingly, Fable 3 is what made me consider what was really the "right" choice when it means saving a bunch of people. Dang, I raised taxes like crazy in that game and kept the alcohol limit so citizens wouldn't go around drinking all day - I also let Reaver drain Bowerstone Lake. (I hate that man for making sense - but he's SEXEH ). Whenever I walked through the city, people would "boo" and "hiss", but I knew I was doing the right thing in the end (and oh, Page HATED me! XD)...look who got 8 million gold and saved EVERYONE! 

When I went back to ME1, I carefully weighed my choices. I killed Helena Blake because she's just corrupt to the core; I put Udina on the council because he is trained for it and knows the ins and outs (even though he sells you out in the end - it's his job); I still had trouble on whether or not to kill Shiala...I don't think she's still indoctrinated, but she told me that indoctrination is irreversable - I stepped away for like an hour thinking about it, and finally just killed her (I already have three other playthroughs where she lives); Rana Thanoptis = dead; I pushed Garrus to Paragon so he'll keep a pure sense of justice and keep innocents out of the fight; and I freed the Rachni Queen because, well, the **** owes me.

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I want the romance to be a bit more all-encompassing, like SilentK says...I'd rather have it play a bigger  role in the smaller cutscenes, not have it be a few large conversation  cutscenes then a culminating romance cutscene. I'd rather see it seep  its way into the main story a bit more. That includes previous romances, too, and other romancable characters. This is part of who Shep is, and  it should be given important attention.

Definitely. It doesn't have to be everything Shepard thinks about, but the LI will be another reason why Shepard is fighting. We need a wink accross the room, or smiles, or a cutscene where you both just talk about...whatever! And we need to see some emotion, damnit. My Shepard's are tough, but they'll cry when something gets to them...my Earthborn will break down sobbing when she sees the child die. >_> And I want Joker to hug her.

Please.

Modifié par PhantomGinger, 22 août 2011 - 10:24 .