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[RhiPanda]

My response to that statue with Jokers head?



edit: top of page Joker:lol:

Modifié par RhiPanda, 08 septembre 2011 - 10:34 .

[StarYukiko]

Thank you
I photoshoped it myself~

[Victia]

StarYukiko wrote...

Thank you
I photoshoped it myself~

I dont know if i should be crying or laughing, love the expression on his face though

[StarYukiko]

Victia wrote...

StarYukiko wrote...

Thank you
I photoshoped it myself~

I dont know if i should be crying or laughing, love the expression on his face though

Thanks

You might recognize it from when he's imitating Legion, putting it here again so you can look at it again. Might click then. Tried to find the derp:iest face I could find but unfortunetly you couldn't see his whole cap

[RhiPanda]

Ahh was on the Joker being a plot armoured character forum and they're all saying they think Joker would betray Shep if the Reapers offered him a new body!
I get they don't like Joker but that is just.. ridiculous!
Gahhh I'm getting all mad

[Most Definitely Sane]

Is it just me or does Joker's expression just scream "Why me?"

Off topic, I am embarrassed by how long it took me to realize Anime Liara is wearing hideous heels.


Wait, Joker? Betray Shepard for a new body?
He wouldn't even have a body if it wasn't for Shepard. Besides, he and Shepard are buddies, they'd never betray each other.

Modifié par Most Definitely Sane, 08 septembre 2011 - 11:41 .

[Nilfalasiel]

RhiPanda wrote...

Ahh was on the Joker being a plot armoured character forum and they're all saying they think Joker would betray Shep if the Reapers offered him a new body!
I get they don't like Joker but that is just.. ridiculous!
Gahhh I'm getting all mad

What is this, I don't even...

Buh

Seriously, hasn't the guy put his butt on the line enough times to be proven trustworthy? I mean, Joker is among the last people whose loyalty to Shepard I would question.

[Oligo696]

Well, a year does give people lots of time to make theories, as crazy as they are, I do actually understand where they're coming from.

They're taking his lines like:
"I'm not losing another Normandy" literally.
They think that Joker cares more for the ship than Shepard or the crew and would gladly betray Shepard for a ship or a new body.

Even if he doesn't say it, I think losing the first Normandy and Shepard hit him hard, and just because he doesn't say "I'm not losing you again" instead of "I'm not losing another Normandy" doesn't mean he would rather the Ship survived than Shepard. He's not a touchy feely people person. If he actually just outright said "I'm not losing you again" without any sort of build up it would be horrifically out of character.

I think the whole thing a complete fallacy, to be completely honest, but each to their own, I suppose.

[Nyreen]

I just imagined myself playing the ME3, without knowing if Shepard/Joker was possible, and just coming across the flirt option, or HIS flirting...I think I would explode with joy. GUH he is the only ME character I was ever remotely attracted to...

(Maybe waiting and seeing - that would be less painful than an immediate internt-letdown on March 6th.)

[maxernst]

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

Is it just me or does Joker's expression just scream "Why me?"

Off topic, I am embarrassed by how long it took me to realize Anime Liara is wearing hideous heels.


Wait, Joker? Betray Shepard for a new body?
He wouldn't even have a body if it wasn't for Shepard. Besides, he and Shepard are buddies, they'd never betray each other.

Because you know how Joker talks constantly about how he wished he didn't have Vrolik's syndrome and would do ANYTHING to be healthy.  It's obviously the only thing that matters to him.  He's kind of like Anders and mage freedom.  Honestly, I think anyone who seriously believes that has a troubling opinion of people with physical disabilities.

And no, he wouldn't do it for a "new" ship.  I can imagine him betraying Shepard to save the Normandy, however.  The Normandy is his responsibility, and losing it must have been a tremendous blow to his professional pride, which is key to his sense of self-worth.  But really, shouldn't he value the Normandy ahead of Shepard?  There are a lot of people on the Normandy--why are their lives so much less important than Shepard's?  Oh, yeah, he's the great hero, the only person in the galaxy who can save humanity from the Reapers.

[Koji-san]

I don't mind the Liara statue. It's a stylization commonly found in manga/anime so it was kind of neat to see that sort of viewpoint. *shrug*. Let's get that same sort of statue but with Joker shirt-less in a pair of board shorts instead.
AMIRITE?!

@DeadlyHaven: don't get me started on forum-posting on a g***amn iPad! Not being able to edit makes for interesting outcomes. >:-(

[Most Definitely Sane]

maxernst wrote...

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

Is it just me or does Joker's expression just scream "Why me?"

Off topic, I am embarrassed by how long it took me to realize Anime Liara is wearing hideous heels.


Wait, Joker? Betray Shepard for a new body?
He wouldn't even have a body if it wasn't for Shepard. Besides, he and Shepard are buddies, they'd never betray each other.

Because you know how Joker talks constantly about how he wished he didn't have Vrolik's syndrome and would do ANYTHING to be healthy.  It's obviously the only thing that matters to him.  He's kind of like Anders and mage freedom.  Honestly, I think anyone who seriously believes that has a troubling opinion of people with physical disabilities.

And no, he wouldn't do it for a "new" ship.  I can imagine him betraying Shepard to save the Normandy, however.  The Normandy is his responsibility, and losing it must have been a tremendous blow to his professional pride, which is key to his sense of self-worth.  But really, shouldn't he value the Normandy ahead of Shepard?  There are a lot of people on the Normandy--why are their lives so much less important than Shepard's?  Oh, yeah, he's the great hero, the only person in the galaxy who can save humanity from the Reapers.

Yeah, of course he doesn't want Vrolik's Syndrome. Who would? But he's not the type of character to betray someone to a race that can kill everyone just so he won't have it anymore. And I find the "troubling opinion" comment to be incredibly offensive. My brother has physical and mental disabilities, and I understand what people with his disabilities go through. But would people really do something so horrible just for that?

As for the Normandy, I honestly don't know. Yes, there are more people on that ship, lives that shouldn't be lost. One one hand, you have them, and on the other, you have the one person who's currently able to save the galaxy.

[HurricaneGinger]

@ maxernst: Oh yeah, Joker is constantly complaining about his health...lol. Losing the Normandy was a huge blow to Joker. He was ready and willing to sacrifice himself if it meant saving the ship. Shepard did convince him to save himself in the end though, so I'm pretty sure Joker would listen to Shepard again - whether to abandon her/him, or to save her/him. At the end of the SM good or bad ending, Joker risked his own life to try to save Shepard and the crew. So, while I can understand your skepticism, I don't see Joker doing that. I'd have to see it to believe it.


To comment on my own discussion: I love y'all songs! I think these songs would be good as well:

Satellite by Guster - A good romance song if Joker has had feelings for Shepard. He feels she is constantly out of reach, but no matter what she is always around - so he may have a chance.

White Knuckles by Alter Bridge - Good theme song for Joker. This song means to keep dreaming and to **** those who don't believe in  you. Very intense, just like Joker's need to prove himself. "Hold on for your life" is a good lyric.

Sympathy by the Goo Goo Dolls - Joker is just baffled by Shepard's sympathy, and Shepard's baffled with Joker's. Joker is always comforting Shepard one way or another. And Shepard's always been nice to Joker.

I have a few more, but I don't want to overload y'all. XD

[SolarDiamond]

Ooooh, it's been so long since I've been on here. Had to log on after catching up and I'm pleased as punch to see a couple fan arts of mine. Ugh. Just can't get enough of Joker. More of that will be incoming at a later date.

Seeing a flurry of songs that inspire Joker daydreaming makes me need to share mine too! I've posted it before on other threads, and I stand by it.

Permission - by Sixx A.M.

For me this song perfectly captures all of the guilt Joker feels from holding himself responsible for Shepard's death, all the turmoil he went through while she was dead, and finally being able to confront her about it. It's what directly inspired the fanfic I've been working on, and is the soundtrack theme for chapter I'm working on now.

*sigh* I love head canon.

Modifié par SolarDiamond, 09 septembre 2011 - 04:31 .

[maxernst]

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

maxernst wrote...

Most Definitely Sane wrote...

Is it just me or does Joker's expression just scream "Why me?"

Off topic, I am embarrassed by how long it took me to realize Anime Liara is wearing hideous heels.


Wait, Joker? Betray Shepard for a new body?
He wouldn't even have a body if it wasn't for Shepard. Besides, he and Shepard are buddies, they'd never betray each other.

Because you know how Joker talks constantly about how he wished he didn't have Vrolik's syndrome and would do ANYTHING to be healthy.  It's obviously the only thing that matters to him.  He's kind of like Anders and mage freedom.  Honestly, I think anyone who seriously believes that has a troubling opinion of people with physical disabilities.

And no, he wouldn't do it for a "new" ship.  I can imagine him betraying Shepard to save the Normandy, however.  The Normandy is his responsibility, and losing it must have been a tremendous blow to his professional pride, which is key to his sense of self-worth.  But really, shouldn't he value the Normandy ahead of Shepard?  There are a lot of people on the Normandy--why are their lives so much less important than Shepard's?  Oh, yeah, he's the great hero, the only person in the galaxy who can save humanity from the Reapers.

Yeah, of course he doesn't want Vrolik's Syndrome. Who would? But he's not the type of character to betray someone to a race that can kill everyone just so he won't have it anymore. And I find the "troubling opinion" comment to be incredibly offensive. My brother has physical and mental disabilities, and I understand what people with his disabilities go through. But would people really do something so horrible just for that?

I think you misunderstood me. I was being sarcastic about Joker being obsessed with curing his Vrolik's syndrome. What I find troubling is the suggestion that Joker would would sacrifice someone as important to him as Shepard to improve his own quality of life.  There's nothing in the game to suggest such extreme selfishness on his part, so I suspect somebody who believes that has a disturbing view of disabled people in general.

[Raydiva]

Dunno why but the talk of songs has a picture in my mind of Joker and Shep (Male or Female) singing together like these guys:



You will want to skip to 1:45 or 1:46 to see it.

Edit to get link to work...

Modifié par Raydiva, 09 septembre 2011 - 06:11 .

[SolarDiamond]

Raydiva, Oh. My. God. LOL. I can totally see Joker goofing around like that. Priceless

[SilentK]

Eliantariel wrote...

Ok, second try with my question:

What about a Joker action figure? Or do you prefer a litho? Or both?

I would looove to have a Joker-litho   =)    big squee for that! I'm conisdering comissioning a pic of Joker and my FemShep but I already have one comission out now so it will have to wait. Can't spoil myself too much now.


Hmmm.... Joker sacrficing people to save the Normandy. Yeah, I agree that there is nothing that suggests that. I believe that Joker has pride in his work and his ship. Hubby has a friend who worked as a chef and you would not mess around in his kitchen or with his knives, guess it's the same with Joker. At my job, people are very touchy if you have to use their lab-equipment, you have to assure them that you will be very kind to their fav piece of metal in the world. It would almost feel more strange if he didn't care for the Normandy. He needs the ship to do his job. I think it's best summed up in his words

Joker: We were your team Commander.

*sigh*   Want to lean through the screen and hug him everytime I hear that.



I heard some complaining of lack of cookies so here we got some for you. Cookies for everyone, there are even some spaceship-shaped ones. Just because I'm so swamped at work I won't be able to catch up on the thread until the weekend. Boo for work, lol =)       sporting one of Namira's shirts ofc

whoever said they missed their scanner... I hear you, mine is at my parents house and they can't find it right now. Sketching on tablet is a pain, for me anyways   =)




edit:  because I still can't spell anything right....   augh...

Modifié par SilentK, 09 septembre 2011 - 06:36 .

[Offcast]

Did anybody think about Shoker romance scence?

[SilentK]

If I ever thought of a Shoker romance scene..... nahh.... never <----- *lies through her teeth*

Well yes, it would be romantic and sweet. With perhaps a little bit of awkward in the beginning  



@ RhiPanda    everytime I see that lama-gif at the top of the page I just have to giggle. It's....faboulus  

Modifié par SilentK, 09 septembre 2011 - 09:23 .

[Omega Torsk]

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Who forgot to give me the memo that stated that Thursday night would be mass post-bombing night!? And here I was working! D'oh!

But seriously all, 4 pages in 14 hours! Great job, everyone! Sad to see that I missed some things... but I'll be here all weekend! (Starting tomorrow! Lol) Popcorn's on me!

Oh, oh, oh! Songs that I think are relevant to the Joker/Shepard relationship??? *cracks knuckles*

"Somebody" by Brian Adams
"I Ran" by Flock of Seagulls (in all honesty, I don't know why)
"Take My Breath Away" by Berlin (I already explained how well I think Top Gun references fit into this 'mance! Lol)

Also, Joker betraying Shepard for something offered by the Reapers? Bah, perish the thought! (We know better!)

maxernst wrote...

And no, he wouldn't do it for a "new" ship.  I can imagine him betraying Shepard to save the Normandy,
however.  The Normandy is his responsibility, and losing it must have been a tremendous blow to his professional pride, which is key to his sense of self-worth.  But really, shouldn't he value the Normandy ahead of Shepard?  There are a lot of people on the Normandy--why are their lives so much less important than Shepard's?  Oh, yeah, he's the great hero, the only person in the galaxy who can save humanity from the Reapers.

Erm, not really trying to put you on the spot or anything, but Joker + Normandy - Shepard = a fancy version of the "Critical Mission Failure" screen. Sorry Max, but the Mass Effect galaxy is going to need Shepard. Ships can be rebuilt. People on the other hand- wait, frak... well, I highly doubt the Alliance would shill out the 4 billion creds required to re-rebuild Shepard.

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 09 septembre 2011 - 10:06 .