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[SilentK]

@ suprhomre

Don't worry. All Mass Effect romances are optional so no one will be forced to romance him if he indeed would become a LI in ME3. There are however quite a few of us who would be very happy for the opportunity to romance Joker   =) 

Modifié par SilentK, 23 septembre 2011 - 01:29 .

[RhiPanda]

Wells if you don't like the idea and there is a Joker romance, you can just avoid it in game

edit: Another Joker pic, by Zweihand again.

http://pics.livejour...nd/pic/0027tgb1

Modifié par RhiPanda, 23 septembre 2011 - 01:43 .

[leminzplz]

I find it quite sad that there isn't an official Joker fan thread I mean, the guy from Big Ben (what's his name Nigel something? Fisnandchips?) got one, so why hasn't our favourite cocky pilot got one?
But I thought that we discuss everything Joker and not just a Jokermance!! Yay! My only problem is, is that people who support Joker but not a Jokermance will be mislead by the title *sad music*

Modifié par Mango370, 23 septembre 2011 - 04:26 .

[NamiraWilhelm]

[Omega Torsk]

Mango370 wrote...

I find it quite sad that there isn't an official Joker fan thread I mean, the guy from Big Ben (what's his name Nigel something? Fisnandchips?) got one, so why hasn't our favourite cocky pilot got one?
But I thought that we discuss everything Joker and not just a Jokermance!! Yay!

Well, there is this, but since this is the last game in the saga, a Jokermance is the goal! We already know Bioware is giving him more dialogue (12 hours worth), so no problems there...

But of course, this is also a Joker fan thread! It's just our main focus is generally romance-related in order to let Bioware Casey Hudson the community on BSN know that there's more support for it than most people realize!


Edit: @Namira: I LOVE IT! <3

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 23 septembre 2011 - 04:33 .

[leminzplz]

I have never seen that thread O_O Shows how much I am useless at finding things -facepalm- I'm so stupid :L

[Nilfalasiel]

Omega Torsk wrote...

Mango370 wrote...

I find it quite sad that there isn't an official Joker fan thread I mean, the guy from Big Ben (what's his name Nigel something? Fisnandchips?) got one, so why hasn't our favourite cocky pilot got one?
But I thought that we discuss everything Joker and not just a Jokermance!! Yay!

Well, there is this, but since this is the last game in the saga, a Jokermance is the goal! We already know Bioware is giving him more dialogue (12 hours worth), so no problems there...

But of course, this is also a Joker fan thread! It's just our main focus is generally romance-related in order to let Bioware Casey Hudson the community on BSN know that there's more support for it than most people realize!

It would be possible to rename the thread though (I've seen other threads changing names several times), if you felt like it. Something along the lines of "Joker romance and support thread". A v2 of the previous thread, as it were.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 23 septembre 2011 - 05:35 .

[RhiPanda]

@Namira, wow I love that pic it is so nice
I'm actually pretty optimistic about it, if he wasn't a romance option wouldn't they have just outright said nah (like they did with that Kromance question?)

[Victia]

@Namira - stunning piccie :-)

I am also optomistic @rhi - I have a good feeling that we will finally get a jokermace

[SilentK]

We can talk about all things Joker here    =)    or I think we do quite frequently. Ohh... remember talking about Virmire in the thread a little while ago. Well, maybe we will have a opportunity to talk about it with Joker this time. Scary tweets from Patrick Weekes.... brace yourselves. 



*cue ominous music*   


PatrickWeekes (Patrick Weekes)
I love that in our fandom, "Virmire" is a verb

PatrickWeekes (Patrick Weekes)
Je virmire, tu virmires, il/elle/on virmire, nous virmirons, vous virmirez, ils/elles virmirent

PatrickWeekes (Patrick Weekes)
Can't wait to see how the lexicon changes after ME3. "Man, next playthrough, (followername) is getting Kahje'd so hard..."


What do you say? Time to bring out the kleenex?  Will probably make a extra save the first time anyone as much as mentions Kahje in ME3....

Question? The pilot stays on the ship, right? Joker ain't putting a fot on Kajhe, I'm feeling paranoid, lol 

Modifié par SilentK, 23 septembre 2011 - 10:31 .

[Nilfalasiel]

SilentK wrote...


We can talk about all things Joker here    =)    or I think we do quite frequently. Ohh... remember talking about Virmire in the thread a little while ago. Well, maybe we will have a opportunity to talk about it with Joker this time. Scary tweets from Patrick Weekes.... brace yourselves. 



*cue ominous music*   


PatrickWeekes (Patrick Weekes)
I love that in our fandom, "Virmire" is a verb

PatrickWeekes (Patrick Weekes)
Je virmire, tu virmires, il/elle/on virmire, nous virmirons, vous virmirez, ils/elles virmirent

PatrickWeekes (Patrick Weekes)
Can't wait to see how the lexicon changes after ME3. "Man, next playthrough, (followername) is getting Kahje'd so hard..."


What do you say? Time to bring out the kleenex?  Will probably make a extra save the first time anyone as much as mentions Kahje in ME3....

Question? The pilot stays on the ship, right? Joker ain't putting a fot on Kajhe, I'm feeling paranoid, lol 

Lol, why did he pick French to conjugate "to virmire"?

Strange, there's no mention of visiting Kahje on the Wiki (it's Sur'kesh, Thessia, Rannoch and Palaven)...It's the hanar homeworld, which I find odd, since we've barely had any important hanar-related content thus far.

I'd be tempted to say it's got something to do with either Thane or drell in general, but considering he says "followername", it means it can involve any squaddie...

Hmm. Or maybe they're just toying with us.

Still, the likelihood of this involving Joker is slim at best, I'd say. Don't think he's in a position to be going groundside, even with his upgrades.

[Victia]

PatrickWeekes is awesome and such a teese, i am really scarred now that Kahje will be another Virmire and someone will die :-( *opens mental fling cabinet, searches for M,* ah ha - note to self do not take anyone you will cry over dieing to Kahje, infact, chain Joker, Kaidan, Garrus and Tali up in the Normandy so that they are perfectly safe......unless the ship is attacked :-O

[SilentK]

Jupp, I would be very surprised to see Joker of the ship. Which is one of the reasons why I really would like to see that sometime.

Modifié par SilentK, 23 septembre 2011 - 10:42 .

[Nyreen]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Lol, why did he pick French to conjugate "to virmire"?
 even with his upgrades.

French Canadian?

[Sylvanpyxie]

I will be extremely disappointed if there is another Virmire. The first one didn't get me at all emotionally and if they tried the whole "CHOOSE ONE" ploy again, it'd feel kind of shallow.

I also hope there's no Suicide Mission style deaths. I don't want to have to run around gathering people's dry cleaning so they survive a specific mission. I think Bioware need to be a lot more subtle this time around. Or just give us utterly no choice at all and throw a dead squad member in our faces.

With all that been said! Joker spends a lot of his time on the Normandy, but we know from Mass Effect 2 that the Normandy isn't always the safest place in town. While i can't see the SR-2 blowing up in the first 30 seconds of game-play.. I can't imagine she'll get through the Reaper War entirely untouched...

While i doubt Bioware would kill off Joker, if they *do* have some kind of death scene hidden deep in the bowels of ME3, i'll likely hunt it down and hope Joker goes up in a fiery blaze of glory, taking with him a sodding huge Reaper and the SR-2.

I mean come on, there's bound to be a solidly bad ending in which "everyone" goes down. Right?

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 23 septembre 2011 - 11:12 .

[Victia]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

n the first 30 seconds of game-play.. I can't imagine she'll get through the Reaper War entirely untouched...

While i doubt Bioware would kill off Joker, if they *do* have some kind of death scene hidden deep in the bowels of ME3, i'll likely hunt it down and hope Joker goes up in a fiery blaze of glory, taking with him a sodding huge Reaper and the SR-2.

I mean come on, there's bound to be a solidly bad ending in which "everyone" goes down. Right?

OT but I really want this for Conrad Verner ala Casse in dedependance day - not sure why other than he has spent 2 games fanboying and I really want him to do something heroic in the end :innocent:

I agree that there will be a bad-everyone dies ending but even beyond that I think biioware will have deaths for most if not all major character and depending on choices will depend if you see them or not. Although i dont think there will be another Virmire I wouldnt mind betting there will be forced character deaths for example on this mission 2nd squaddie chosen always dies or something like that, I am guessing Joker will have one too, even though I would hope not (all pilots should be immune to plot death and I will never forgive Joss Whedon for killing off Wash )

[Victia]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

n the first 30 seconds of game-play.. I can't imagine she'll get through the Reaper War entirely untouched...

While i doubt Bioware would kill off Joker, if they *do* have some kind of death scene hidden deep in the bowels of ME3, i'll likely hunt it down and hope Joker goes up in a fiery blaze of glory, taking with him a sodding huge Reaper and the SR-2.

I mean come on, there's bound to be a solidly bad ending in which "everyone" goes down. Right?

OT but I really want this for Conrad Verner ala Casse in dedependance day - not sure why other than he has spent 2 games fanboying and I really want him to do something heroic in the end :innocent:

I agree that there will be a bad-everyone dies ending but even beyond that I think biioware will have deaths for most if not all major character and depending on choices will depend if you see them or not. Although i dont think there will be another Virmire I wouldnt mind betting there will be forced character deaths for example on this mission 2nd squaddie chosen always dies or something like that, I am guessing Joker will have one too, even though I would hope not (all pilots should be immune to plot death and I will never forgive Joss Whedon for killing off Wash )

[Sylvanpyxie]

I will never forgive Joss Whedon for killing off Wash

No one will.... This was Joss' cruel, disgusting, heartless way of letting everyone know that Firefly will never again grace our screens. He's a dirty, filthy, heartless man and should never be forgiven for this horrific sin.

Idiot should've just started up the series again instead of making that damn movie. It would have bought everyone many, many years of happiness.

[Nilfalasiel]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

Or just give us utterly no choice at all and throw a dead squad member in our faces.

I'd put up with just about anything but that. Inevitable character death is a huge no-no for me. Mainly because, if I want inevitable deaths, I'll go for any other entertainment media: book, film, theatre.

Seriously, there are plenty of people who have voluntarily killed off squaddies in the Suicide Mission, for drama's sake. So if people want squaddies to die for added emotional weight, they have the possibility to do so. Why can't the reverse apply?

With all that been said! Joker spends a lot of his time on the Normandy, but we know from Mass Effect 2 that the Normandy isn't always the safest place in town. While i can't see the SR-2 blowing up in the first 30 seconds of game-play.. I can't imagine she'll get through the Reaper War entirely untouched...

While I doubt Bioware would kill off Joker, if they *do* have some kind of death scene hidden deep in the bowels of ME3, i'll likely hunt it down and hope Joker goes up in a fiery blaze of glory, taking with him a sodding huge Reaper and the SR-2.

Another reason why I'm firmly against forced character death is because it's much easier to make a non-squaddie go down for good. Joker being a non-squaddie with pretty high emotional investment for most players...You do the math.

I mean come on, there's bound to be a solidly bad ending in which "everyone" goes down. Right?

Oh, definitely. I'm sure there are quite a few "for science" playthroughs out there where people killed off every single possible squaddie, the Normandy crew, Wrex and the Rachni Queen, sacrificed the original Council, and persuaded the quarians and geth to go to war, without destroying the geth heretics.

Meaning you have no team, fewer allies, most of the alien races don't trust you, and 2 of them are locked in a war anyway.

Pretty sure that would leave Shepard fubared.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 24 septembre 2011 - 12:00 .

[Sylvanpyxie]

I'd put up with just about anything but that. Inevitable character death is a huge no-no for me.

I'm not looking for unstoppable character death.

I'm just praying Bioware will finally pull some imagination out the bag and give us something beyond "time to choose" and "fetch my dry cleaning for plot armour".

Frankly the Mass Effect 2 safety system with loyalty made utterly no sense to me. To the point i didn't believe it was loyalty that made my squad safe. That's not a good death system for companion characters, and if Virmire's style is revisited then it'll be shallow and empty. Not to mention utterly silly.

I'd like to see Bioware do something different. And no, that doesn't mean i want them to just randomly kill off characters willy nilly with utterly no way out. But i want them to do something other than copy paste (*)idiotic ideas from their previous games.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Edit: (*) To clarify, the idiotic idea in question here is the loyalty mission safety harness from Mass Effect 2.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 24 septembre 2011 - 12:20 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Sylvanpyxie wrote...

I'm not looking for unstoppable character death.

Oh, I realise that, but I know it's a possibility and was just saying that I'd rather they stick with "dry cleaning" quests, as you put it. It may not be exciting, but I still think it's better. There have been several threads around here asking for inevitable deaths though

To clarify, the idiotic idea in question here is the loyalty mission safety harness from Mass Effect 2.

Well, to be entirely fair, you could still lose loyal squaddies due to bad decisions. Picking Thane to go into the vents is a frequent one (because he was in some vents while hunting Nassana). As is picking Miranda for the biotic bubble, because she says she can do it. Mordin can also die if left to hold the line, regardless of loyalty, IIRC.

I'm guessing their line of thinking with the loyalty was that, if the squaddie in question doesn't trust you and still feels that she/he left some unfinished business behind (or badly botched business, like Tali's trial, for instance), they won't be as focussed as they could be during the mission and would therefore be more prone to making mistakes.

[SilentK]

Jupp, I've lost Garrus twice when he was loyal *sniffle*. Second time I lost him because I took the wrong person for the biotic bubble. My group with optimal eyecandy, Jacob, Garrus and Thane left one very dead Garrus.... First time I no longer remember, it was the blind first PT of ME2. But yes, it is very possible to lose people who are loyal if there is a upgrade missing or the wrong person was chosen for something.

[Sylvanpyxie]

Perhaps it was less the loyalty missions themselves, and more the fact the loyalty missions were centered so solely around the crew... Had a few of the missions been spontaneous it may have felt a lot less forced.

Finding that Tali was suddenly a traitor. Jacob, Thane and Miranda suddenly getting pinged with info on family. Garrus suddenly finding Sidonis. Mordin's student Maelon suddenly being kidnapped. Grunt and Jack suddenly having emotional issues beyond their emotional issues. It all felt more than a little silly to me.

A good example of how it could've been improved would be if Grunt's loyalty mission had been waylaid by a side mission from Wrex to find out why Urdnot scouts had been disappearing.. Suddenly being side tracked into Mordin's mission. It would have flowed a hell of a lot better.

But the way it had been implimented was extremely poor and just sucked a hell of a lot of fun out of the game for me. Yes, i feel this was the biggest fault with ME2 for me. That and not enough Joker dialogue, since Joker is probably the only character in Mass Effect 2 i liked.

And sorry i haven't been very clear in my previous posts. I haven't been able to sleep the last few nights and my brain is beginning to suffer.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 24 septembre 2011 - 01:05 .

[SilentK]

Hmmm... they worked for me, and one of the problems with letting a q tied to a certain person flow into another one is then you might not have that one present in your crew at the time. Might be a lot more of running back and forth to the Normandy to get the right people with you if it changes focus suddenly. Speaking of LM and Joker, I want to do something for him. Know that we have said it quit a few times but that would make me happy. Ever since he lost his temper just for a little little bit after the crew was taken I have a feeling that my Shepard would like to do something for him. Oh well, we will just have to wait and see =)