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[Omega Torsk]

Hmm, I would suspect the reason Joker joined Cerberus was due to something more serious than just a temporary grounding while an investigation was taking place.

Maybe rumors in the Alliance brass began indirectly blaming Joker for the destruction of the Normandy and, by extension, the death of Commander Shepard. This wounded his reputation as an Alliance pilot.

The most likely scenario was that the Alliance made Joker a deal to stop pushing the belief of the Reapers and he hotly refused. Thus, he was grounded. Backroom politics in the Alliance are brutal; just look at what happened to Captain Anderson.

I don't see Joker joining Cerberus on his own free will. Maybe TIM approached him and made him an offer (perhaps mentioning that they believe that the Reapers exist and that they are rebuilding Commander Shepard).

[NamiraWilhelm]

Maybe they showed him the ship first

Joker : Look 'tim', theres no way in hell-
(tim reveals SR2)
Joker: SHINY!

[Omega Torsk]

Hmm, maybe Joker wasn't even with Cerberus all that long. Maybe he joined a week or so before they brought Shepard back. And we know how Joker isn't very forthcoming with his feelings. Maybe he joined Cerberus for a deeper reason.

Femshep: So, Joker, tell me why you really joined Cerberus.
Joker: I told you. The Alliance grounded me. TIM offered to give me my wings back. That's why.
Femshep: That's not even close to being true. You know what they are; you saw it yourself. Why don't you tell me the real reason?
(pause)
Joker: (sigh) They told me they were bringing you back. I just... I couldn't let you go...

Could use some work, but what do you think? 

[SolarDiamond]

That's basically what I went with in my fic. He joined for Shepard.

The guy's gotta have a little guilt (if not an incredibly overwhelming crapload of it) about the SR1 and Shepard dying. I like to think he joined, ultimately, for Shepard, whether from finding out Shepard's being revived or out of loyalty to the cause.

He did only find out about the SR2 the night before he and Shepard see it. "They only told me last night." So maybe up until that point he was running supply or transport for Cerberus. Maybe, unbeknownst to him, he was picking up medical equipment for Shepard's reconstruction. !!

[Sorrel]

Uguuuu. I made this yesterday.

[SolarDiamond]

OH MY GOD. THAT IS SO COOL.

Yes, caps are necessary.

Now it needs Bailie peeking out from behind the chair, lol. That would be awesome.

[RhiPanda]

Ahh! I love it

[CDRSkyShepard]

SolarDiamond wrote...

In my own fic I had him grounded for the investigation as well, and then for the remainder of his military term for insubordination concerning ignoring the order to evacuate.

Oh yes, of course he wouldn't join just to fly. I had forgotten about his little speech about the records being sealed, the Alliance betraying them, and so "Hell yeah, I joined Cerberus." I just wonder about him being grounded. That would have been a nice little tidbit of info for them to chat about at the beginning of the game after getting back on the Normandy.

Edit: Sky, the link to your fanfic in your sig is not working. :[

Gorramit! I'll have to have my html-smart bestie fix it. If you want to read it, just look up "DiamondStar40" on FF.net.

Sorrel is being awesome again. Love it.

[FenrisDeSolar]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Maybe they showed him the ship first

Joker : Look 'tim', theres no way in hell-
(tim reveals SR2)
Joker: SHINY!

Hahaha! I can actually kind of imagine this. Joker pressing himself against the hull and just drooling on it. XD

[NamiraWilhelm]

tim: umm joker, you wanna stop humping the SR2?

We've got a few cons and stuff coming up right? I'm gonna try and pester them a lil about getting some Joker news...

[LisaBrown]

Yeah! It is confirmed, Joker will have romance in Mass Effect3 and I have evidence.
http://bioware-blog....-romence-s.html

[HeartyMedusa]

Everyone just needs to cross their fingers for a Joker romance. I've wanted one since ME1!

[Omega Torsk]

LisaBrown wrote...

Yeah! It is confirmed, Joker will have romance in Mass Effect3 and I have evidence.
http://bioware-blog....-romence-s.html

It's in a different language-


Edit: Ohh, there's a translation function! D'oh! Hmm... I'm excited but with reservations. Here, lemme post the translated version for y'all to read

Edit: nvm, Sorrel already did it one post down...

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 05 octobre 2011 - 06:12 .

[Sorrel]

@LisaBrown -- That is not an official blog and so it can't be confirmed.

There was a mistranslation of one of the Q&A's a while back that was printed in a Russian magazine -- Unfortunately what Casey actually said to the Joker and FShep question was 'You'll have to play it to see,' which is not a direct answer. The magazine mistranslated it as 'there will be one for those that want one,' which is unfortunate.

edit, the following is how Google translates LisaBrown's Link:

"Many fans with Mass Effect in the world will argue what romance and whether the romance will be.From the information we already know that this James Vega romaci have not, nor any other new character will have romance, but what about the old characters not as romance? So you just have a romance that will and who will actually have the romance? It is the Joker.

 This I know with excellent humor and character of the great majority of enchanted player Mass Effect.Due to the fact that we can in Mass Effect 3 build romance and otherwise than take them along on a mission, we can easily arrange romance with the Joker, who mission is not due to genetic disease called Vrolik syndrome or brittle bone disease. This report will please many fans justifiably Joker, because they have just the most wanted romance between Shepard and the Joker. Well now you can only imagine how the romance will look like.Honestly I've got a vision, but so strange. Come see for yourself in the third Mass Effect"

Modifié par Sorrel, 05 octobre 2011 - 05:56 .

[LisaBrown]

@Sorrel: I know that it is not official, but I suppress the owner and he told me that the article with the Joker and Romance is 99.9% true.

[Omega Torsk]

I kind of agree with Sorrel. It's not an official blog, so it can't necessarily be confirmed. It's good news, but like she mentioned, a Russian magazine mistranslated a non-answer at Gamescom a couple months ago.

So yeah, it's a nice thing to read (don't get me wrong), but... *sniff* need more data before drawing conclusion...

Edit:

LisaBrown wrote...

@Sorrel: I know that it is not official, but I suppress the owner and he told me that the article with the Joker and Romance is 99.9% true.

Hmm... don't think I don't want to believe this (words can't express how much I want to), but... I'm conflicted. Who wrote the article?

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 05 octobre 2011 - 06:05 .

[LisaBrown]

@Omega Trosk: The author of the article Jeff. He comes from the Czech Republic.

[Sorrel]

I'm not trying to be an ****, but what connections does this Jeff person have? How can he be 99.9% sure of this? What kind of credibility can he offer? Does he know folks at Bioware?
I know a couple people at Bioware too -- And I have to say dead silent about what I know, so if he does and is blabbing that's not a good thing!

[Erode_The_Soul]

Omega Torsk wrote...

I kind of agree with Sorrel. It's not an official blog, so it can't necessarily be confirmed. It's good news, but like she mentioned, a Russian magazine mistranslated a non-answer at Gamescom a couple months ago.

So yeah, it's a nice thing to read (don't get me wrong), but... *sniff* need more data before drawing conclusion...

Edit:

LisaBrown wrote...

@Sorrel: I know that it is not official, but I suppress the owner and he told me that the article with the Joker and Romance is 99.9% true.

Hmm... don't think I don't want to believe this (words can't express how much I want to), but... I'm conflicted. Who wrote the article?

Agreed. It's definitely a positive sign, I think, but I've learned from many years of following [Lionhead] games that you should take nothing as confirmed unless a developer says it themselves. And sometimes, not even then. If nothing else, it's something new to discuss!

[LisaBrown]

@Sorrel:Well I also don't know ... but I do not know ... He collaborates with EA Czech about United.
Sorry for my English, but not from America but I from Slovakia.

Modifié par LisaBrown, 05 octobre 2011 - 06:28 .

[Omega Torsk]

Sorrel wrote...

I know a couple people at Bioware too -- And I have to say dead silent about what I know, so if he does and is blabbing that's not a good thing!

For which party? Because it most definitely is a good thing for us! 

Erode_The_Soul wrote...

Agreed. It's definitely a positive sign, I think, but I've learned from many years of following [Lionhead] games that you should take nothing as confirmed unless a developer says it themselves. And sometimes, not even then. If nothing else, it's something new to discuss!

Anything Molyneux says needs to be take with more than a grain of salt... I'm just saying! 

LisaBrown wrote...

@Sorrel:Well I also don't know ... but I do not know ... He collaborates with EA Czech about United.

0_0

*scratches head, goes into the other room to think for awhile*

Modifié par Omega Torsk, 05 octobre 2011 - 06:42 .

[LisaBrown]

@Omega Torsk:What? I do not understand ...

[Omega Torsk]

LisaBrown wrote...

@Omega Torsk:What? I do not understand ...

My way of saying the info just might have some weight. If he works for EA, then we might actually have something here!
I'm waiting for the other thread regulars. In the meantime, I need to process this info...

[NamiraWilhelm]

DeadlyHaven wrote...

It might work, Namira. You can be very annoying- erm, persuasive!

We dont know each other well enough for you to jokingly say that, so hence forth, you're a d!ck

Love the way google translates that page. Its like they've gone for really-bad-fake-russian-accent-english. Until it comes from the Hudsons' (or similar) mouth i shan't be believing it