RhiPanda wrote...
I would hope that in ME3 they could bring in Joker feeling guilty about Shepard dying to save him, cause that was never brought up in ME2 D:
That has long been one of my biggest and most major pet peeves! But I have to hope they're just saving it up to pull off something massively awesome in the last game. For him to have a confessional moment where you realize he just couldn't talk about it before, he was just holding it in... they could melt me and my main FemShep (the Infiltrator to your left, ladies and gentlemen!) like butter if they played it like that. Like
butter!phantomdragoness wrote...
Have
y'all seen the early concept art for Thane? In my opinion, he would
have been a LOT more interesting if BioWare had kept that design. Maybe
even a little colder like they protrayed him in the ME2 trailer. But
just because I do not like him as much as I originally thought, it
doesn't mean I don't want things to work out for the Sheps who do love
him. I was sad for the Varric-lovers when that news came out because
I know how much they wanted the romance. He was still an awesome
character, and after playing through DA2, I wouldn't have minded a
romance. But having a companion not lusting after Hawke was nice. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]
In
Joker's original concept art, BioWare made him appear more ill because
of his condition. That would have been pretty interesting! However,
Joker is in the army and the Alliance probably would want him in top
shape. And being as cocky as he is, Joker would have wanted some muscle I
think to prove that his condition would not bring him down. At least
that's how I see it. Thoughts?
I remember my early impressions of Thane before we knew he was an dying man who remembered every second of his marriage to a woman who shows every sign of having been perfect for him and who also had a whiny son he had to rescue from becoming a bad guy with the main character's help. (i.e. Carth, but green and with a time limit.)
They were very good. Very very good. And I liked his voice better at the pitch it was; the deeper pitch makes him sound really old and grizzly to me.
I respect the feelings of others and get why they like Thane, and I do appreciate him as being the ONLY non-pervy
actual romance (rather than friends with benefits or bow-chicka-wow-wow.) But man, would I have loved the crap out of him if they had only made him the shady flyboy I thought he was. Or even more like Feron. (Seriously, I *want* Feron. I know it's hopeless, but I loved him in the comics, and I wish my Shepard could jump his presumably non-dying eligible emotionally unstable bones. I wouldn't prefer him over Joker, but he's right up there under my pilot on the list.)
Well, maybe I'll like Thane better now that he's written by somebody else. I hope so. I love the drell. They're so sleek and exotic and intriguing, but they're not sexy in an overt, fake male Pamela Anderson/Paris Hilton kinda way. More in a Joseph Gordon Levitt kinda way. Only green. And alien.
I agree about Varric--I liked that we had a character who wasn't after the main character! But we had that with her sibling and mother as well. I wonder if they'll do that for ME3--if you're a Spacer, make it matter more by bringing your parents in; my main Shep is a Colonist/War Hero, so I kinda hope they address that in ME3 a bit more pervasively than in 1 and 2. Spices up replays and makes you feel your choices mattered.
I also loved Sebastian... that you could entice him in one or more ways and end up with the subtle promise of more if you played your cards right. They did so much so well character-wise in DA2, they really did. Love those companions.
I think you're spot-on about Joker, too. I do think Cerberus helped him in ways we don't yet fully know the extent of, and I'm sure hoping he's been working on those muscles. For more than one reason (and not only character-related ones, though that does make solid sense to me.) Imagine some eyebrow-waggling here...

slydfoxxy wrote...
I have tried starting new femsheps, I really have, but I've just grown sooo attached to my lanah (profile pic) that I *can't.*
...
Maybe I'm weird but I feel so unattached to
all my other femsheps, does anyone else feel this way about one of their
particular femsheps?
The Colonist/War Hero Shepard in my pic is my favorite; I made her look like she could be my sister, which I found fascinating to be able to do; I love the CC tools for that very reason. I am very attached to her.
What I did to get over that was replay her, making some different choices along the way, and then once I had it out of my system, I made a character extremely different from her--
Ryla. Blue eyes instead of green, dark brown skin instead of pale, black lipstick instead of ripe pink, short sensible black hair instead of the longest with slight waves. And I decided she was bi, but leaned more towards women than men, and she was Renegon instead of Paragade. Consciously making those different choices and justifying them to myself (she's an Earthborn Sole Survivor, the universe has been harsh to her, so she has a good heart but she's not as compassionate as my main Shep because she thinks compassion just makes it easier for the bad guys to hurt good people.) She romanced Liara and did a bunch of things that my other Shepard never would've done, in keeping with how I saw her character.
So that was how I did it. I made a polar opposite to my first Shepard in almost every capacity. I was fascinated with her hooked nose and sharp jaw and scar. She was pretty, but in a tough, hard sort of way with few soft edges.
She opened the door for
Torran, my red-haired, idealistic bleeding heart boy scout Spacer/Sole Survivor.
So I guess the best way to do it is to just make a character you'd like to be friends with, or who you'd find interesting if you were casting a movie and it couldn't be anyone like yourself. That way, you can move from the pleasure of making a character you can relate to very easily, to the pleasure of a character you have to work a little harder to relate to, but can respect. See it as, this character is living in a parallel universe. This is a "what if" factor. What if Shepard were somebody else.
I don't know if that helps, but it's how I ventured out of my safety zone. It's just as awesome, but in a different sort of way.
*catching up* Heheh, phantomess, LOVE the 3-part FFFFFFUUUUU series; that was a scream!

ReallyRue wrote...
slydfoxxy wrote...
What is your favourite Joker line?
I love his lines when Shep is just hanging around his cockpit. EDIT: that line doesn't sound right...../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png ../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png
"Yeah, this is 98% of my job. I watch buttons flash. Sometimes I press one."
"Ah, if mom could see me now... we'd have zombies on top of everything else."
"Why is it always claws and guns? Why can't we ****** of a fuzzy planet? Still dangerous, but hey, bunnies!"
Gotta love Joker! ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png
Omega Torsk wrote...
Great. So, this is where it starts.
When we're all organic batteries, guess who they'll blame? "This is all
Joker's fault. What a tool he was! I have to spend all day computing pi
because he plugged in the Overlord!"
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*huggles to all three of you* Just READING those makes me grin all over again; ear-to-ear. (And Omega, that Hide poster is awesome! I laughed so hard...)
Sorrel wrote...
I imagine if Casey Hudson reads this
thread, there is a lot of facepalming involved, as well as a chuckle
every now and then. C:
*goes pale* Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you there! God, I hope he doesn't read my posts here. I wouldn't mind Christina Norman or somebody, but it's kind of embarrassing to think of dudes reading stuff I wrote when I was at my girliest/dorkiest. And I get that way over Shepard/Joker. *sheepish*
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