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Hey guys, just a friendly reminder that it's starting to get a bit spoilery in here. Now that the Twitter craziness has died down, feel free to discuss the implications of the beta leak outside the thread. Everyone should have the group Snap, Crackle & Pop to turn to...and even a discussion on the topic posted by Melissa. :)

Anyway, I've been at school all day (darn exams), so I'll interject my little tidbit on the recent Twitter issue before I move on. Hopefully it'll be some food for thought, yes?

I love you all, I really do, but I had to talk myself down this morning so as to avoid coming in here and slapping you all upside the head. I understand where each side is coming from. There are those of us to whom the issue of OI hits home. There are those of us who have been campaigning just as hard as any Garrus or Tali fan for our romance since 2007. There are those of us who are incredibly ticked off about the contents of the leak Joker-wise (I include myself here). We feel slighted that our efforts have apparently fallen on deaf ears. We feel that BioWare might not have stayed true to the character. We feel demoralized because what we really didn't want to see happen very might well happen. I get it. I'm right there with you. However, I read most of the tweets. Most were respectful, but there were some that weren't so tactfully written. Some that had an almost, "How dare you!" feel to them. Unfortunately, the internet is a place of mostly written medium, and thus sometimes you have to read between the lines to suss out a person's intent, whether that interpretation is correct or not. I'm no Communications major, but I was personally a bit shocked at what I read from some of the tweets. I'm just reporting what I saw and felt myself when I went through all of them - I'm not trying to say anything was right or wrong, so don't flame me, please.

Right now, the Casey Hudson is one of the last people I want to be. His team has suffered backlash after backlash: from the announcement of multiplayer, over the "Modes" in the leaked demo, and from the .tlk leaks. Damage control from the leaks has to be hellish, and has probably added to their already demanding workload with less than 4 months until release. A few of the tweets I read I definitely wouldn't want to be reading if I were in his position and stressed out of my mind. And yes, he's good enough to his fans that he reads every single one. He doesn't seem the type to put his proverbial fingers in his ears and "scroll over" things he doesn't want to see or hear. For all we might be upset, and for all that the producers at BioWare try to take the fans' wishes into account, in the end, this is their story. Their baby. Not ours. This is a story they have created and shared with us. I don't know about you guys, but I will trust them with their vision despite my frustration due to the fact I feel like I haven't been heard. That make sense?

Then I come in here and we're all having it out over whether or not to apologize? Come on. If you feel like you have nothing to apologize for, then don't. If you feel like you should apologize, then do. Either way, the situation is what it is. Certainly, no one is going to make it worse by apologizing if they felt like things went too far. I'm glad in the end everyone agrees to disagree here, so can we bury the hatchet on this? Please?

I know this particular topic has died down somewhat, but I felt like all this had to be said. I do not intend to pick the proverbial scab.

/rantthathasbeenforminginmyheadallday

Ugh, these past few weeks have just been rough. On me in my RL, on here. It's just crazy.

The holidays are coming up, on a lighter note! :happy: I have so much to write on my Shoker fic still before ME3 comes out...I don't know if I can finish in time. Maybe winter break will provide me the time I need. I always wondered how humans would celebrate the holidays in the ME 'verse, do they even keep track of that stuff on the ships and stations since they use Galactic Standard times? Hm, maybe I should write a Christmas fic...

Edit (had to remember what we were talking about...): I like that idea, Phantom. I could use pictures of my real hat! What is Thane's Cure, exactly? Can anyone fill me in? I haven't been in on the Thane thread for a while...

Edit, Part 2 (wow, I fail today): ToP Joker! This face is sooo my face today. <_<Image IPB

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 19 novembre 2011 - 02:52 .


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Anyone else think of Galatea from Bicentennial Man when they hear or read 'Robot EDI'?

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I have a feeling that'd probably hurt Joker more then a flesh and blood Shepard :S

Sorry guys, couldn't help myself lol.

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I remember going to the movies to see Bicentennial Man when it first came out. Good God I feel old.

Joker-related comment: working on some more .gifs. Will post them here like I did the first. In case you missed it a couple pages ago:

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#5454
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Nyltia wrote...

From what I know of game development,
y'know, as a game design student, I think it would be really tough to
change the script and such this late. Sure they can add maybe a few
tweaks, but as others have been saying, doing rewrites and recording
does take up time, and they still have to do playtesting and try to get
rid of the bugs in gameplay.

But I guess it varies from company
to company, however they structure their development timeline. I think
if there is a Joker romance for us it would've been recorded already and
the devs are just keeping it in the dark for a surprise, or they really
did go with a EDI fembot to add another hot chick to the squad and make
a really, really weird relationship between the pilot and his ship.

I'm surprised that people even like that second option. There really is no justifying it.

But
who knows, maybe they just wanted to save the Joker/Shep romance for
the final game, maybe they've had that planned from the beginning. We
can't really speculate on anything until the game comes out. Until then,
it's just a waiting game.

Google gave me dis. the horror
I'm actually not so against a Joker/EDI relationship mostly because there were hints of it and they have such great chemistry. Just no consumation please. How would it work I never stopped to think. Hey it's a game.

Modifié par fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb, 19 novembre 2011 - 07:18 .


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CDRSkyShepard

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I love that .gif, vigg. I just. Love it. I play through the SM as fast as I can to get to that right there. :D

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As per phantom's suggestion :)

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Excuse my crappy drawing skillz.

Feel free to use a less cheesy line, I just got this in my head when I saw her post :)

Edit: Spelling.

Modifié par slydfoxxy, 19 novembre 2011 - 03:32 .


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slydfoxxy wrote...

Anyone else think of Galatea from Bicentennial Man when they hear or read 'Robot EDI'?

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I have a feeling that'd probably hurt Joker more then a flesh and blood Shepard :S

Sorry guys, couldn't help myself lol.


omg talking about edi getting a body makes me look at bioware like this <_< and say "you better not" lol i love bioware but some times they have those moments when its like why? i have a feeling ME3 is gonna have a moment where your like "why?" 

lol but for some reason when i think of edi having a body i think of that vodka commercial
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but in joker's case? i hope there is no why? moment because that would be horrible :crying: i don't care if he is a romance option (hope he is though) as long as there good moments and in the end ...

Joker: "now is it over commander?"
shep: " oh its never over...."
 
roll credits dun dun dun

because if they do a wash i will be made if they have him in a relationship that makes no sense.... then and only then will i be mad lol waiting for march is hard so many things i wanna know :(

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I think that picture is even worse lol, its so impersonal and un-human, how could anyone be attracted to that? Or even want to touch it sexually, makes me cringe.

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slydfoxxy wrote...

I think that picture is even worse lol, its so impersonal and un-human, how could anyone be attracted to that? Or even want to touch it sexually, makes me cringe.


exactly ;) lol

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I think this is what we should do in the face of spoliers: le linky

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carilynn46

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-_- sorry i shall stay away (packs up joker supplies) it was a good run from the joker thread of me2 to snap crackle and pop and to here... put apparently my opinions and corrections are being referred to as spoilers though i think ignoring some one if wrong.

but i shall be quiet n_n no more noise from me. again sorry guys

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

[snip of awesome]

Edit (had to remember what we
were talking about...): I like that idea, Phantom. I could use pictures
of my real hat! What is Thane's Cure, exactly? Can anyone fill me in? I
haven't been in on the Thane thread for a while...


True, very true. :)

And the Thane Cure is this:

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gamergal

It was a huge collaboration project where fans of Thane drew their Shepard, sent it in, and a giant banner was made to petition for a cure for Thane. I was impressed, and it's still cool to look at.

slydfoxxy wrote...

As per phantom's suggestion :)

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Excuse my crappy drawing skillz.

Feel free to use a less cheesy line, I just got this in my head when I saw her post :)

Edit: Spelling.


OMG WANT. *steals hat and runs* XD

And I still have yet to see The Bicentennial Man. :mellow: But I feel y'all's pain. Lol, I can kinda imagine this happening with EDI. (I <3 that movie, though. XD)

FlamingFlyingV wrote...

I think this is what we should do in the face of spoliers: le linky


*in hysterics*  :lol:

Approve +20

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carilynn46 wrote...

-_- sorry i shall stay away (packs up joker supplies) it was a good run from the joker thread of me2 to snap crackle and pop and to here... put apparently my opinions and corrections are being referred to as spoilers though i think ignoring some one if wrong.

but i shall be quiet n_n no more noise from me. again sorry guys


Hey now, I don't think anyone's saying that. So long as we limit the discussion to the realm of theoretical possibility (which it has, I think...don't know about anyone else), it's cool to talk about, so long as there are no specifics. We don't want to scare the people who don't want to know spoilers away! We don't know exactly who knows what. It's all so confusing.

I think we're all just expressing disdain over spoilers in general, not any one specific thing anyone said.

Edit: Thanks phantom! That is really cool!

Modifié par CDRSkyShepard, 19 novembre 2011 - 04:24 .


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so re: spoiler-ishness, can/should I post re: a series of tweets of mine from the Great Jokermance Spamming where I made a suggestion re: Joker as an LI that Casey responded to, or would that be heading too far into specifics?

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Uh, I think if you linky it, that should be fine. People just don't want to come in here and be like, "ARGH! MY EYES!" Lol. Then it's just a matter of "to click or not to click."

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

Uh, I think if you linky it, that should be fine. People just don't want to come in here and be like, "ARGH! MY EYES!" Lol. Then it's just a matter of "to click or not to click."


Duly noted! *salute* here is Casey's tweet! (I hope I'm linking that right? ._. twitter is confusing.)
EDIT: (and as was noted to me elsewhere, it's pretty much a classic Marketing Non-Statement, but at least he's not grumpy-sounding in this one? (though he may just be taking pity on my ineptitude.))
EDIT2: in retrospect I am overly exciteable and y'all should probably ignore this. here have a tiny!Joker:

http://pics.livejour...nd/pic/003adtsr

(also sorry for being aggressive/grumpy today. :()

Modifié par Zweiburger, 19 novembre 2011 - 05:37 .


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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I love that .gif, vigg. I just. Love it. I play through the SM as fast as I can to get to that right there. :D

Thanks; I usually do too. Here's two more.

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#5468
CDRSkyShepard

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It's okay rabbitzoro (I hope you don't mind me using your dA screenname...that's the one I know you best by), we've all been cranky. We still love each other. [*hugs*] Oh, and tiny Jokers for the win. I absolutely love your tiny characters, especially Joker!

Oh vigg, you're awesome. Awesome awesome awesome. I'm having fun dubbing the bottom .gif in my head...hehe.

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slydfoxxy wrote...

As per phantom's suggestion :)

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Excuse my crappy drawing skillz.

Feel free to use a less cheesy line, I just got this in my head when I saw her post :)

Edit: Spelling.

That line is genius, and a hat within a hat, hatception!

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Um, I'm not really sure about that line? People actually have Vrolik's, and... It sorta seems a bit off to me. Like, it's a disease, not a gimmick you know?
A quote was linked to me yesterday. Perhaps you might get a smile out of it.

"“There are some things even a computer can’t do. Like -- like love, Rebecca. Like love…”
- Shaun Hastings"


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 I don't like that Vrolik's line either.

I'm also not in favour of bashing another pairing to get Jokermance going.
Can't we just have a campaign for first dibs? ( Or a threesome? :P )

Modifié par Squidbreath, 19 novembre 2011 - 01:49 .


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slydfoxxy wrote...


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Excuse my crappy drawing skillz.

Feel free to use a less cheesy line, I just got this in my head when I saw her post :)

Edit: Spelling.


lol oh dear :P Cheesy line but it gets the message across!

Nothing wrong with cheesy anyway, and its obviously just a bit of sillyness so doubt it'll cause any offense =]

its got me trying to think of my own... and failing...

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Ohmygod I only just noticed that the heart has a beard xD
Yeah I also like it, totally cheesy but I love cheesy

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It's good we apologized to Casey and all, but I doubt he was talking specifically about us. He probably got a lot of tweets about the leak, and not all regarding Joker. :P

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haha i didnt notice the beard either, awesome!