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[shepskisaac]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

@ Bismth - Seth Green recorded 12 hours of dialogue for Mass Effect 3. What is contained in the beta leaks is most definitely not 12 hours of dialogue.

He meant 12 hours of recording sessions, not 12 hours of in-game dialogues. None character in ME has that much, doubt even Shep has more than 5-10 hours of straight talking when you put it together. ME voice actors record in 4-hour sessions every few weeks/days. Seth Green's first 4-hour session was on May 22, and by July 19 he was already done. By comparsion, Raphael Sbarge was recording from late May to early December and Tricia Helfer didn't finish her recording till late November

[Drone223]

Another page down 14 left keep it up *brings up thread banner*

Modifié par Drone223, 03 janvier 2012 - 02:49 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

IsaacShep wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

@ Bismth - Seth Green recorded 12 hours of dialogue for Mass Effect 3. What is contained in the beta leaks is most definitely not 12 hours of dialogue.

He meant 12 hours of recording sessions, not 12 hours of in-game dialogues. None character in ME has that much, doubt even Shep has more than 5-10 hours of straight talking when you put it together. ME voice actors record in 4-hour sessions every few weeks/days. Seth Green's first 4-hour session was on May 22, and by July 19 he was already done. By comparsion, Raphael Sbarge was recording from late May to early December and Tricia Helfer didn't finish her recording till late November

This is true, thanks for correcting me on that point.

However, what I've read of Joker's lines from the beta leaks seems to be on par with, if not less, than his dialogue in ME2. If Joker has the same amount of dialogue in ME3 as he does in ME2, then that's probably it...however, I highly doubt that. There are also many things I've read about in the beta leaks that he doesn't even mention in his leaked lines. So I have concluded that's not all of it. I don't see how it could be.

[MissFish]

RynJ wrote...

MissFish wrote...

^^ I still can't get over his eyes! Soooo purty!

I love them too! I have a thing for green eyes (and sarcastic pilots).

Somebody should write an ode to Joker's eyes!

All righty! Let's do this!

Joker's eyes
Green
but there also kinda greyish sometimes because of lighting.
F**king goregous!

Modifié par MissFish, 03 janvier 2012 - 03:01 .

[CDRSkyShepard]

MissFish wrote...

RynJ wrote...

MissFish wrote...

^^ I still can't get over his eyes! Soooo purty!

I love them too! I have a thing for green eyes (and sarcastic pilots).

Somebody should write an ode to Joker's eyes!

All righty! Let's do this!

Joker's eyes
Green
but there also kinda greyish sometimes because of lighting.
F**king goregous!

LOL. I vote this gets added to the OP.

[viggorrah]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

MissFish wrote...

RynJ wrote...

MissFish wrote...

^^ I still can't get over his eyes! Soooo purty!

I love them too! I have a thing for green eyes (and sarcastic pilots).

Somebody should write an ode to Joker's eyes!

All righty! Let's do this!

Joker's eyes
Green
but there also kinda greyish sometimes because of lighting.
F**king goregous!

LOL. I vote this gets added to the OP.

I second this vote!

[RhiPanda]

viggorrah wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

MissFish wrote...

RynJ wrote...

MissFish wrote...

^^ I still can't get over his eyes! Soooo purty!

I love them too! I have a thing for green eyes (and sarcastic pilots).

Somebody should write an ode to Joker's eyes!

All righty! Let's do this!

Joker's eyes
Green
but there also kinda greyish sometimes because of lighting.
F**king goregous!

LOL. I vote this gets added to the OP.

I second this vote!

I third this vote

edit: spelling

Modifié par RhiPanda, 03 janvier 2012 - 03:46 .

[ahlvister]

I'd like to throw my support in for you guys. I wouldn't romance Joker myself, but I definitely support you if you do wish for a Jokermance.

...Besides, the EDI/Joker thing was kind of awkward and gross. Merely because they're too much like family for me to handle as a romance. And I like EDI without too many human-like emotions. It allows for a greater sense of humor, as she is detached from the feelings of organics and...yeah.

Although maybe I should have a free FemShep just in case...

Wish you luck!

By the way, do you guys have this Shoker fic on your OP? It's really good.

[MissFish]

^^ Hello and Welcome!!

I'm glad your supporting us, regardless of whether you would romance him or not. Too many people on this thread would be all, "LOL NO JOKERMANCES FOR YOU! TROLOLOLOLOL!"

That fic isn't on our OP, but it's known for being amazing.

[SgtPepper667]

Joker's eyes...I could stare into them for hours! *melts* XDDD

[phantomdragoness]

@ Sky: I would be glad to help out with the documentary! It'd be fun!

@ ahlvister: Ah yes, that is indeed a good fanfiction! It's by one of our forumers, Sorrel. She hasn't been around to avoid spoilers and the such...like I said I would but the awesomeness of this place continues to drag me back. XD

[Ashley_SR2]

I admire how passionate some posters are about hoping a Joker - Shepard romance is included. Keep it up!

Sadly, I can't see the Shepard romance happening BUT I could definitely see a loyalty-style mission: Normandy brings on some new people. Joker catches the attention of a lovely lady. Shepard has to help Joker get a date. Upon successful ending and saving Earth, Joker has a real lady (No EDI, that's just comic relief) and flies off into the sunset. Happy Ending. 

Modifié par Ashley_SR2, 03 janvier 2012 - 04:51 .

[viggorrah]

ahlvister wrote...

I'd like to throw my support in for you guys. I wouldn't romance Joker myself, but I definitely support you if you do wish for a Jokermance.

...Besides, the EDI/Joker thing was kind of awkward and gross. Merely because they're too much like family for me to handle as a romance. And I like EDI without too many human-like emotions. It allows for a greater sense of humor, as she is detached from the feelings of organics and...yeah.

Although maybe I should have a free FemShep just in case...

Wish you luck!

By the way, do you guys have this Shoker fic on your OP? It's really good.

Thanks for the support!

[SgtPepper667]

What's this documentary we're planning?

[ahlvister]

viggorrah wrote...

ahlvister wrote...

I'd like to throw my support in for you guys. I wouldn't romance Joker myself, but I definitely support you if you do wish for a Jokermance.

...Besides, the EDI/Joker thing was kind of awkward and gross. Merely because they're too much like family for me to handle as a romance. And I like EDI without too many human-like emotions. It allows for a greater sense of humor, as she is detached from the feelings of organics and...yeah.

Although maybe I should have a free FemShep just in case...

Wish you luck!

By the way, do you guys have this Shoker fic on your OP? It's really good.

Thanks for the support!

No problem.

[Eliantariel]

Ashley_SR2 wrote...

I admire how passionate some posters are about hoping a Joker - Shepard romance is included. Keep it up!

Sadly, I can't see the Shepard romance happening BUT I could definitely see a loyalty-style mission: Normandy brings on some new people. Joker catches the attention of a lovely lady. Shepard has to help Joker get a date. Upon successful ending and saving Earth, Joker has a real lady (No EDI, that's just comic relief) and flies off into the sunset. Happy Ending. 

Thanks for the support. It is very much appreciated.

May I ask you why you can't see a JokerxShepard romance happening? Because of the leaked script? We hope it is as Bioware said unfinished and outdated. Or do you think they don't fit to each other? That would depend on how you play your Shepard, but there are several good reasons for why we think they would be a great couple (see op on page 1). The effort for adding the side-mission that you mentioned would be even greater than a simple (but well written) JokerxShepard romance. Although I must say I would like to have a kind of side-mission with and for Joker and I definitely prefer a human living being as his girlfriend over EDI if it can't be Shepard. Whatever happens, hopefully we get as much Joker as possible...

[StarYukiko]

phantomdragoness wrote...
@ ahlvister: Ah yes, that is indeed a good fanfiction! It's by one of our forumers, Sorrel. She hasn't been around to avoid spoilers and the such...like I said I would but the awesomeness of this place continues to drag me back. XD

Same here. I think the Joker thread is the forum thread I've visited the most and keep coming back to. And I'm not even that much of a forum person.

Edit:

Eliantariel wrote...

//...// Although I must say I would like to
have a kind of side-mission with and for Joker and I definitely prefer a
human living being as his girlfriend over EDI if it can't be Shepard.
Whatever happens, hopefully we get as much Joker as possible...

I agree. Rather another human being over EDI. Someone said something about that if EDI had a male or a genderless voice than people would find it less "cute".
....Well, I thought about that for a while. And if EDI had a male voice then I think I've might have supported it as a "crack pairing" for being so different from all the other AI/Human relationships. For all the AI/Human relationships I've came across is between a sexy, hot "female" AI and a Male human, often the lead. So if it was a relationship between a Male human and a "male" AI then I would support it for being different and funny.

Modifié par StarYukiko, 03 janvier 2012 - 01:45 .

[Eliantariel]

StarYukiko wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...
@ ahlvister: Ah yes, that is indeed a good fanfiction! It's by one of our forumers, Sorrel. She hasn't been around to avoid spoilers and the such...like I said I would but the awesomeness of this place continues to drag me back. XD

Same here. I think the Joker thread is the forum thread I've visited the most and keep coming back to. And I'm not even that much of a forum person.

Me too. I never posted in a forum before I came to this forum and thread. First I wanted to participate on the Garrus thread, as I am a great Garrus fan too (and Kaidan too I should add, but I wasn't really feeling homely in his thread), but they had already so much people supporting him and than I found the Joker thread and I was glad to see that other people had the same idea how much Joker would be a great romance option. And now this is practically the one and only thread for me. It is thrilling to know that our support could really be leading to a JokerxShepard romance, like how the fans were successful in getting a Tali and Garrus romance in ME2. It is a great thing that Bioware listen to the fans.

[StarYukiko]

Eliantariel wrote...

Me too. I never posted in a forum before I came to this forum and thread. First I wanted to participate on the Garrus thread, as I am a great Garrus fan too (and Kaidan too I should add, but I wasn't really feeling homely in his thread), but they had already so much people supporting him and than I found the Joker thread and I was glad to see that other people had the same idea how much Joker would be a great romance option. And now this is practically the one and only thread for me. It is thrilling to know that our support could really be leading to a JokerxShepard romance, like how the fans were successful in getting a Tali and Garrus romance in ME2. It is a great thing that Bioware listen to the fans.

I like Garrus and Kaidan too, but I've never posted in their threads... I prefer this thread instead<3
This thread has also given me inspiration for things to draw.

[Eliantariel]

StarYukiko wrote...

phantomdragoness wrote...
@ ahlvister: Ah yes, that is indeed a good fanfiction! It's by one of our forumers, Sorrel. She hasn't been around to avoid spoilers and the such...like I said I would but the awesomeness of this place continues to drag me back. XD

Same here. I think the Joker thread is the forum thread I've visited the most and keep coming back to. And I'm not even that much of a forum person.

Edit:

Eliantariel wrote...

//...// Although I must say I would like to
have a kind of side-mission with and for Joker and I definitely prefer a
human living being as his girlfriend over EDI if it can't be Shepard.
Whatever happens, hopefully we get as much Joker as possible...

I agree. Rather another human being over EDI. Someone said something about that if EDI had a male or a genderless voice than people would find it less "cute".
....Well, I thought about that for a while. And if EDI had a male voice then I think I've might have supported it as a "crack pairing" for being so different from all the other AI/Human relationships. For all the AI/Human relationships I've came across is between a sexy, hot "female" AI and a Male human, often the lead. So if it was a relationship between a Male human and a "male" AI then I would support it for being different and funny.

You know, I think this is why people keep talking about how cute JokerxEDI would be - only because they imagine to see EDI as a NPC shaped like Tricia Helfer or Number Six from BSG. Like having your very own Tricia Helfer or Number Six on the Normandy. I am wondering when people will start to cry for a EDI/Shepard romance.

In the german language version, EDI has still a female voice but it sounds more mechanical. Without knowing the voice actor I doubt that so many people would still like to see this pairing. This is the disadvantage if you take famous people as voice actors - there is a high chance that people will not see their voiced role but the person behind it or other roles. We already had several visitors in our thread claiming that we only want a romance with Joker because he is voiced by Seth and so that we want a Seth romance option. Which is nonsense - of course Seth has many fans and he does a great job as voice actor but Joker as character is interesting without Seth - I played for a long time the german language version and did not know who was voicing him in the english version and I did not know Seth but I was still a fan of Joker. And don't forget that Joker was build after an unknown canadian guy, not Seth Green - there may be some similarities but he is not his pixel image.

The subject of how far an AI is able to develop is surely an interesting topic, but as every development, this should take time and is a matter of try-and-error. That EDI develops within 6 months or so to a nearly perfectly living being with consciousness, feelings, female mind and so on is just cheap and even in a fictional universe rather unlikely.

[StarYukiko]

... I actually had no idea who Seth Green was when I first became a Joker fan... .___.
*so ashamed*
I'm really bad with celebrities. The other day when I saw Keanu Reeves in a TGWTG review, I pronounced his name like "Quinoa" which is a type of food.
People call me self-centered because I don't really care about learning the name of celebrities. I just don't care. In my defense, it makes people de-attached to the character they're supposed to be playing, when I can enjoy the character more than just the actor/actress.

[Ghrelt]

wolfennights wrote...

"I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar."

Totes could hear Joker saying this in ME3.

Oh please no.  I don't think I could handle what happened after that.  Not again.

<re-lurk>

[Ashley_SR2]

Eliantariel wrote...

Thanks for the support. It is very much appreciated.

May I ask you why you can't see a JokerxShepard romance happening? Because of the leaked script? We hope it is as Bioware said unfinished and outdated. Or do you think they don't fit to each other? That would depend on how you play your Shepard, but there are several good reasons for why we think they would be a great couple (see op on page 1). The effort for adding the side-mission that you mentioned would be even greater than a simple (but well written) JokerxShepard romance. Although I must say I would like to have a kind of side-mission with and for Joker and I definitely prefer a human living being as his girlfriend over EDI if it can't be Shepard. Whatever happens, hopefully we get as much Joker as possible...

You guys confuse me with your similar avatars! 

To answer your question, the reason I don't see it happening is due to the way I perceive the character's roles to be. Now, I will have a smile on my face if, come March 6th I am proven wrong. I just happen to see Joker as pigeonholed as comic relief and occasional hero. The writers want you to feel attached to the characters, and this thread is testament to that - BUT I think that asking players to invest time and emotional attachment on Joker's relationships isn't worth the development time for what you would get out of the story. Does that make sense?
I don't see it as a storyline limitation, there's certainly no story reason that makes me say No, it's a technical / project limitation. I try to view it from the perspective of the devs - They have a finite amount of story to smush into the shipped game and this being the final installment, they have to make it count and Joker ends up on the cutting room floor.

Anywho, you guys rock! I'm happy to see people having constructive talks about it.

My wall of text aside, what's going to happen after ME3 comes out? Think this forum will die off?

Modifié par Ashley_SR2, 03 janvier 2012 - 03:12 .

[Eliantariel]

Ashley_SR2 wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

Thanks for the support. It is very much appreciated.

May I ask you why you can't see a JokerxShepard romance happening? Because of the leaked script? We hope it is as Bioware said unfinished and outdated. Or do you think they don't fit to each other? That would depend on how you play your Shepard, but there are several good reasons for why we think they would be a great couple (see op on page 1). The effort for adding the side-mission that you mentioned would be even greater than a simple (but well written) JokerxShepard romance. Although I must say I would like to have a kind of side-mission with and for Joker and I definitely prefer a human living being as his girlfriend over EDI if it can't be Shepard. Whatever happens, hopefully we get as much Joker as possible...

You guys confuse me with your similar avatars! 

To answer your question, the reason I don't see it happening is due to the way I perceive the character's roles to be. Now, I will have a smile on my face if, come March 6th I am proven wrong. I just happen to see Joker as pigeonholed as comic relief and occasional hero. The writers want you to feel attached to the characters, and this thread is testament to that - BUT I think that asking players to invest time and emotional attachment on Joker's relationships isn't worth the development time for what you would get out of the story. Does that make sense?
I don't see it as a storyline limitation, there's certainly no story reason that makes me say No, it's a technical / project limitation. I try to view it from the perspective of the devs - They have a finite amount of story to smush into the shipped game and this being the final installment, they have to make it count and Joker ends up on the cutting room floor.

Anywho, you guys rock! I'm happy to see people having constructive talks about it.

My wall of text aside, what's going to happen after ME3 comes out? Think this forum will die off?

Thank you for your explanation. Of course you are right - there are only limited ressources for everything, but a romance is a rather small part and seeing that Bioware could use the time to implement a JokerxEDI romance we think it is better used to give us our JokerxShepard romance which gives the player more reasons to replay the game with different Shepards. And Joker is a character that was with Shepard and us from the beginning with Mass Effect 1. Instead of adding several new characters as new LIs it would just feel natural to give us him as romance option. For those who see him as a brother or only friend the romance is optional.

After ME2 comes out (for you guys in USA sooner as in Europe, unfortunately I will have to wait until the ninth of march) there will be much discussion on the boards about everything. If there is a Joker romance there will be much discussion about it and Joker in general on this board, and even without a romance there will be a discussion, but I think people will be so disappointed that it will be not much fun. I don't think it will die off, because Joker is part of the game and there will be new information and dialogue to discuss but with Joker as romance option I think it will last longer.

Sorry, just noticed how I always tend to write walls of text....must learn to keep things short.

[StarYukiko]

Wait, what? Europe will get it one day later?? D:
But yes, I think that the thread won't die off completely after Mass Effect 3 even if there's no Jokermance. But if there is, then it probably will last longer and maybe even get more people discussing in it.